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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Guildpact Impacts on: January 24, 2006, 11:08:19 pm
On the subject of Hatching Plans, I think MonoBlue deserves it. The following deck it`s an idea that uses Claws of Gix and Abjure :shock: to draw the 3 cards. Anyway, I'm not sure to cut the Ophies. Also, against Oath, Claws of Gix becomes a hoser.

Hatching Claws

Mana (24)

8 SoLoMaMox
1 Stripmine
1 LoA
2 Seat of the Synod
6 Fetchland
6 Island

Counter (16)

4 Force
4 Drain
2 Mana Leak
2 Misdirection
2 Forbid
2 Abjure

Draw/Engine (15)

1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral
1 Mystical
4 Thirst
4 Hatching Plans 
4 Gix 

Kill (3)

1 Tinker
1 Morphling
1 DC
2 XXX??? ( maybe keg, capzcice or other bounce, or cut 1 Gix and add 3 Ophies )

2  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Magic in Shandalar on: June 23, 2004, 11:31:25 am
Try this one, it`s a real monster sometimes go on turn 2.
I also have a turboland decklist, post it later.
The counters never convince me a lot, maybe 3 psionic blast instead of the power sinks.

Shandalar Atog

Broken (10)

1 Ancestral
1 timetwister
1 timewalk
1 Braingeyser
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Regrowth
1 Sylvan Library
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mind Twist
1 Balance

Permission and Removal (9)

4 Lightning Bolt
1 Psionic Blast
3 Power Sink
1 REB

Kill (8)

4 Atogs
4 Berserk

Mana Base & Artifacts (33)

8 SoLoCryMoxen
4 Fellawar Stone
4 Copy Artifact ( brass man or Jeweled Bird)
4 Fountain of Youth
4 City of brass
4 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical
1 Mana Vault
1 Blakc Vise
1 Jayemdae Tome
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Single Card Discussion] Mana Crypt, The $30 Mox on: March 29, 2004, 02:11:46 pm
Crypt is a must, is the 6th mox. Last week I trade a Masticore for it :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Is Keeper a dead Archetype? on: March 21, 2004, 07:50:51 pm
Actually I think there`s no reason to play Keeper, if you can play Tog.
There`s a lot of discussion about this two decks, but here`s a poll for the final verdict. Discuss your votes.
5  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck Discussion] JP Meyers newest Psychatog Variant on: February 12, 2004, 09:08:44 am
Quote from: Smmenen
Exactly.  That's why Tog players lose to Stompy - becuase they think they have to control the board rather than combo over.


Steve


That`s true, against aggro the essence of Tog is to focus on the combo, instead of playing the deck as control. This is the primary reason of lossing.

About the Drawing engine, I am actually running:

1 Gush ( I would never cut this one: target Tog gets +6+6, 0cc, what else?
In the opening hands, it`s a pitch for FoW, or you can hide it with brainstorm+fetch)

1 Merchant Scroll (Maybe cut for Deep Anal, now in the SB), but scroll is really useful, can fetch first turn Recall and sometimes the 4th AK)

1 Fact or Fiction: why nobody like this one?
6  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck]Eastman for the masses on: February 05, 2004, 12:14:24 am
Already know that duress is proactive, but in this particular version of `keeper' the idea is to play the hoser(CoM) as quickly as possible( against tog/keeper/still/etc ), duress fits better than leak in this particular case.
Also, against combo is a better option. I think it deserves testing.

Anyway depends on the metagame you are facing, in an aggro metagame i would play manaleak.
7  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck]Eastman for the masses on: February 04, 2004, 11:23:09 pm
On the counter base why not  duress instead of manaleak?
8  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck]A new look at Keeper- GateKeeper as we call it. on: February 04, 2004, 12:34:15 pm
Interesting deck, it seems to be the perfect combination of keeper and landstill.

When playtesting this deck, Eternal Dragon was great, i think is an essencial card, it helped a lot with the mana base as a permanent fetch. Also, under a standstill was awesome.

On The GateKeeper version, i would try

-2 Fire/Ice +1 Fact or Fiction + 1 Decree of Justice

As vintagethug01 said, the 3rd Decree is just for pressure under a standstill in the early game.

What do you think about Teferi´s response in the SB?
Can protect LoA, Dustbowl or any land.
I know is really slow with wishes(5CC), but in the late game is a bomb,
and this deck is supposed to win there.
9  Eternal Formats / Creative / Where`s Belcher??? on: January 29, 2004, 11:30:31 pm
Well, no posts about this deck, so discuss it here.

Just for reference, 2003 version (obsolete now)

4 Goblin Charbelcher

4 Land Grant
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Dark Ritual
4 Chrome Mox
4 LED

7 SoLoMoxen
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Grim Monolith
4 Eldamri´s Vineyard
4 Chromatic Sphere
1 Bayou

4 Duress

1 Memory Jar
1 Necropotence
1 Channel
1 Regrowth

1 Yawgmoth´s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Spoils of the Vault

The deck lost almost everything after the last restrictions, anyway i think is still viable. Although the deck is hosed by chalice, matrix, null rod etc etc.

Neo Belcher

4 Goblin Charbelcher

4 Dark Ritual
4 Land Grant
4 Eldamri`s Vineyard
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
3 Cabal Ritual
7 SoLoMoxen
1 Bayou

1 LED
1 Lotus Petal
1 Chrome Mox
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Grim Monolith

4 Duress
3 Unmask

4 Spoils of the Vault
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Channel

1 Regrowth
1 Yawgmoth`s Will
1 Memory Jar
1 Necropotence

The SB must include Swarms, oxidize/naturalize, maybe planar voids.

Any thoughts??
10  Eternal Formats / Creative / U/w/r Chronic up for critique on: January 29, 2004, 09:31:45 pm
Try another cunning wish, and maybe 1 Intuition, specially for the AK.

Abeyance or orim´s chant in SB would be great if your deck is focus on scepter.
11  Eternal Formats / Creative / Critique my Totaliran Academy Deck please! on: January 27, 2004, 07:25:57 pm
Well, the inclusion of 4 FoW seems to be obvious here.

A card that deserve testing is Mind´s Desire, if not a central part of this deck, after a Twister or Spiral, Desire can give you the game.

Other suggestions

-1 Mediate +1 Mind`s Desire
-1 Impulse  +1 Braingeyser
-1 Candelabra +1 Mind over matter

About the mana base, i would play the following

1 Tolarian Academy
4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
3 Gimmervoid
7 SoloMoxen
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mana Vault
1 Lotus Petal
12  Eternal Formats / Creative / Deck Discussion, Nether Void: (as requested By Jaco) on: January 27, 2004, 01:12:01 pm
Elite Force: where is demonic consultation???

If you are playing 3 voids & 3 pernicious, consultation must be the choice.

On lotus petal, under a Void is a dead card, but in the opening hands it brings great advantage, specially if you are not playing Mox JET.
13  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Mixing Mike's 'Keeper" List on: January 25, 2004, 09:18:12 pm
I run Humility maindeck( aggro metagame), i suggest you to drop a volcanic for another tundra or a city of brass.

Personally, I think masticore is not a great option because the drawback
is horrible for keeper.
Actually I am running 2 decrees and 1 scepter instead of trenches. What do you think about 1 scepter???
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