I have a Memory Jar and a Necropotence on the board.  I activate Memory Jar.  While I have my Memory Jar hand, I activate Necropotence for 5 and set aside those cards face down.  At the end of turn, do those 5 cards go to the Memory Jar hand (and then RFG'd) or do they go to my regular hand after the Memory Jar hand has been discarded?

Thanks.

Eric,

What are you thoughts on Street Wraith in a Long type storm build such as "Super Long" ?  It seems to make the topdeck tutors that much better, thins the deck out without a mana investment, and adds an alternate win condition.  It works great with Ponder.  Also, since Mind's Desire is not included in the build, flipping a Street Wraith is not an issue (one of the reasons I cut it from my storm testing).  Do you feel that the life loss is too much?

Very nicely written and informative article by the way.

I think you need to step back and take your own advice.

Because it is an answer to the Time Vault combo which evades just about every non-bounce hate they have.  That in addition to Null Rod is a formidable defense to most gifts builds.



Brainstorm is far from unplayable with Suppression Field in play. 



Again, I said that I haven't tested this card yet.  It seems solid and very disrupting to the CS/Gifts builds out there now, not to mention an amazing complement to Null Rod. 

As to your claims of mentioning "horrible cards to put in decks where it obviously doesn't work"...how does it obviously not work?  Snowfall obviously doesn't work.  Suppression Field obviously has not been tested enough against the most popular decks to determine its worth.

While on the subject of horrible cards that don't work, I believe Mental Note is a horrible card people try to put in Bird Sh*t, where it obviously doesn't pull its weight.  Want proof?  Check the last successful build of Bird Sh*t that placed at Waterbury and let me know what you think.

Yeah, but the thing is BS needs 2 mana to operate (which is safe to assume the 2 mana used to cast the Suppression Field).  Gifts needs more mana by FAR.



In the 2 large proxy tournaments I've been to since Ravnica has become legal, gifts players have sideboarded R+R both times.  Null rod is just THAT much of a threat.

Which matchups have Supression Field been awful in?   Have you tested them against decks that run Vault combo?  How is pithing needle better when there is so much artifact hate around now?   Have you tried it against a current gifts build?

Just curious as I've never actually used the card yet.

First of all, I believe having exactly 60 cards is the only choice.  Adding more than 60 cards contributes to not seeing ancestral as much (not to mention forces, mages, etc.).

Secondly, running anything less than the maximum amount of creatures has given me problems in the past.  Against aggro and aggro/control, I couldn't compete with their superior numbers of creatures.  Against control and combo, I require the constant pressure of 2 or 3 creatures mowing them down before I run out of disruption to hold them off.

If I had to build a list of BS today, expecting a gifts/combo heavy meta, it would look something like this:

Creature Base (12):
4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Werebear
4 Meddling Mage

Disruption (20):
4 Force of Will
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Null Rod
3 Stifle
3 Daze
3 Orim's Chant

Draw/Utility (7):
4 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Gush

Mana Base (21):
4 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
3 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
1 Savannah
1 Island
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus

Sideboard (15):
3 Annul
3 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Ray of Revelation
3 Suppression Field
3 Sacred Ground


This build is very similar to the list I ran at Samite's tournament a couple weeks ago with a few noticable changes.  


Explainations:

Swords to Plowshares:  These have been golden.  From removing a chump blocking mox monkey to sending a DSC farming, I'm never unhappy to see these in my hand.  The fact is, mostly every deck in vintage right now is running some sort of creature base.  Even if just against DSC, I believe they are well worth a 4x slot.

Orim's Chant:  This card has so many uses in this deck, it is sick.  It can act as a psudo time walk stalling your opponent while smashing his face with threshold men.  It can act as a duress to either bait out a counter or force your important spells (like mage or null rod) through.  It can counter dark ritual.  It can counter yawgmoth's will.  It can be used during your opponent's upkeep to make them burn on their mana drain mana.  It can stall a DSC while you hope to draw an answer.  It can help win counter wars.  Or it can be thrown in the graveyard just to increase the card count toward threshold.  Plus a bunch of uses I haven't even touched on.  This card is a clear winner.

Savannah:  If not just for the "WTF ARE YOU PLAYING?!?"  look at tournaments.  At Waterbury, I played Windswept Heath, popped for a Savannah.  My opponent had no idea.  The single Savannah has may seem out of place, however, it has been the right choice to fetch in the right circumstances.  I'm surprised how happy I've been to see this land on many circumstances.

Suppression Field:  This is something new I've been wanting to try.  It seems that this is an excellent foil to the Vault combo that many gifts decks run now.  Granted, Null Rod shuts down the combo also, but Suppression Field cannot be Rack and Ruined (or REB'd).  Also, it could be devistating to drop an early Suppression field distorting their mana development disrupting their fetches.  Also, this might be an idea to run against other decks in the field such as CS, Madness, and random combo builds.  This does hurt our fetches and Wastes, but I believe the benefit far outweighs any drawback.


As for additional draw, I'm not sure what could be used.  But more importantly, I'm not sure what would have to be removed in order to add this new draw.  Most likely, the deck would have to be rebuilt from the ground up with some draw engine.  If this were to happen though, it would most likely look like WTF/w or something.

BEBs are excellent vs Gifts.  It hits Burning Wish, Pyroclasm, Recoup, Rack and Ruins (for Null Rods), Flame Fusillade (if they are running Vault combo as a kill condition), as well as REBs that they most certainly would side in.