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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: May 03, 2009, 10:59:27 pm
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3 Tombstalker
3 Tarmogoyf You mention that the SB is tested - how have you been finding Tombstalkers? It seems like a cool idea, but I'm a little worried about the Tombstalkers cc - even though WGD is a "graveyard" deck, it isn't that easy to deposit 5-6 cards into the graveyard consistently. Would you not want to run all 4 Tarms ahead of a Tombstalker? Furthermore, I'm not sure I trust such beatdown strategies - it just seems so underpowered compared to oath, or even Mask-Naught. The Oath plan is really good against aggro strategies (Fish and Aggro-Shop) that SB anti-grave hate heavily, but I cannot see such a SB making a dent against those decks. Thoughts? Well, TS is actually pretty castable even with as few as 4 cards in the cemetery. I also found it animated a few time including a surprise buttsecks on an attackign platinum angel using bazaar+necromancy.. I usually pack them vs deck I want to confuse. I always let a few dragon inside so i can try to bait the combo, make opponents waste counters/stifles/we hate on the combo then just pull down a stalker. Ocassionaly, i do something silly like bazaar into mox/lotus & 3 random card for T1 stalker. It also improves late game when if ailed to combo due to counter and when the opponents runs out of threats/solution. tarmo are more for the fish MU that I foudn problematic but mayeb cause i don't the experience needed |
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: May 01, 2009, 10:10:03 am
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@fury :
Curren tested sideboard is :
2 Thoughtseize
3 Tombstalker
3 Tarmogoyf
1 Echoing Truth
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Rebuild
3 Carpet of Flowers
I removed Energy flux casue the stax match-up is alreayd largely in our favor. I added a few bounce of various CC to go around calice and such things.
The seize are here for additional discard and carpet are for rapping Tezz deck.
Tarmo can go up to 6/7 which puts it on par with the 5/5 flying steack
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: April 21, 2009, 12:29:34 pm
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By the way... What is the real advantage of Witness!? It's hard to cast and most of the time, I prefer to annimated Oona's than Witness.
It acts as a kill with ancestral recall and duress/FoW. basically, you dump your whole library in the yard then reanimate eternal bringing back another animator. Reanimate dragon. In the dragon loop, witness let you get a card from your gyard each loop, thus drawing your graveyard. Get ancestral, 3x Duress 3x blue card and 3x FoW. Stop the dragon loop by targeting the witness with both animator. Dragon end up in yard and you get abck an animator. Play ancestral on opponent, duress him/FoW w/e he has and restart the dragon loop. Then you kill the opponent when he/she can't draw anymore. |
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: April 21, 2009, 07:44:28 am
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I'm doing great with Worldgorger Dragon decks since... at least 3-4 months, it's a viable deck for sure... I played the oath in the sideboard, but last weekend I wanted to try the Time Vault Combo. I was happy with the turnout (I split the final. That was a small tourney (19 players), but still...). I found it interresting that you can sideout 1-2 Worldgorger dragon and can combo post-side with Time Vault or the Dragon! Here is the list I played. The Needle side should have been a Platinium Angel... I wasn't able to make two decks (For me and a friend)  Nice list. A few questions : * why 2 oona instead of oona + other critter like witness or mulldrifter or inkwell ? * How was Transmute Artifact ? * Did you faced any null rod deck or not ? How did the opponents reacted to 2nd and 3rd game ? |
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: April 17, 2009, 10:08:38 am
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The list seems to be well built ! What are your sideboard tables against the field, and especially the matchup against control ? No more Mulldrifter ?
I have to rework the side to incorporate Carpet of Flowers back but I dunno what to cut. Same thing with mulldrifter. Basically, control match-up rely on abeyance + them siding gyard hate while I turn into oath. I'm a bit unhappy cause CoF was a real blast in those situation Concerning the previous discussion, I'm not convinced by Archon against Ichorid. When Archon reaches the table, Ichorid has already start to dredge, and can use ways to bounce Archon (manaichorid) or can reanimate Angel of Despair. I would better try to race Ichorid by passing its disrupt and graveyard hate, with bounces and the quick WGD combo.
Yup, few tests shown that it was indeed sucky hence back to PA and bounce |
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: April 11, 2009, 09:18:05 am
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I played the Oath sideboard but always found the MD orchard to be clumsy.
Can't they live in the board or does this push the envelope too far concerning place of the plan C in the board ?
I like abeyance however. I guess chant is not played cause of the double white needed if we want to kick it ?
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Premium Article] Insider Trading - Are Proxies Hurting Vintage Tournament A
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on: April 08, 2009, 04:53:09 am
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Wizards has to balance the collectibility aspect with the playability aspect, or both interests lose. Magic is 15+ years old. The original cardpool cannot service the playability needs of the format forever, and therefore it MUST be reprinted at some point, in some fashion, for the format to survive.
I agree. Things like cardboard are bound to get destroyed/damaged so as time goes the supply of playable cards of more then 10 years old will start to fall. I don't think reprinting a small amount of 10+ years old card with new card face/art will impact the older one that will keep their collectible value as being 'the original ones'. |
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Eternal Formats / Bazaar-Based Decks / Re: New Worldgorger Dragon Combo -- Still Viable?
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on: April 07, 2009, 02:50:22 am
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So I would propose the following sideboard I'm testing :
3 Chain of Vapor
1 Echoing Truth
3 Transmute Artifact
4 Voltaïc Key
1 Time Vault
3 free slots
What about playing -1 key + 1 tinker and add a robot int he free slot (either Leviathan if the meta is tezz oriented or Sundering titan) ? Not sure *4* key is required maybe 3 is enough as we will certainly keep bazaar to dig up the combo piece while faking playing the dragon combo. Also, no love for Tombstalker ? |
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