The Mars Volta for control,

Queens of the Stone Age with cobo,

and System of a Down when I play aggro.

Why do one book for each set when you can do a compilation of philosophers work?!

Nietzsche (legend - ubemesch, who WOULDN'T want to have that?)

Foucault (land - the panopticon)

Zizek (lesbian legos, sweet mind control, who knows how many global destruction cards!)

All the flavor text could even be super sweet quotes and lines that make you re-evaluate your life, it would be the greatest way ever to make an entire sect of people want to stop living with their parents and begin to destroy the minds of their closest friends.

I am pretty sure pyr0ma5ta's wrath wins.

I got a 30 on the first pass, but then a 22 the second time...I don't even know how that happened.

<pyroclasm> YOU CANT COUNTER A CABLKA RIT NOOB IST S MNAA SORCE!!!!
<pyroclasm> FUCKIGN NUB

So another vintage player turns to legacy...

STEVE'S WORST NIGHTMARE IS COMING TRUE!!!!  AND NOW WE HAVE POWER TOURNIES!!!

Anyway...nice job going 9th, and very sorry for what happened to you in your last round - these things do happen; although that really doesn't make it much better to lose to someone like that.

If you make it choose an opponent always, then they can't actually die from this thing, and it jsut makes it a big huge dude to block with, in addition to having the life loss for fun.

It also makes him savage in multiplayer.

The real question is, do we really want a playable 1996 world champion?

Team PRT will be hosting if we can get enough feedback,and we will be setting a date based around the largest events locally (we don't want to compete for players here...)

Matt and the comprehensive rules FTW.

I have a troll Ascetic and 2 untapped bayous out, and my opponent has a Pernicious deed, and 5 mana.  It is my opponents main phase, and he casts and ice (of fire/ice) on one of my lands, i respond by setting up a regeneration shield.  My opponent does not respond to me activating the shield.  My opponent then says, "go to cleanup step, after regeneration shield goes away, i pop deed for 3." 

the conversation then goes as such:

me "you don't get priority ever during cleanup."
opponent "yes you do, the cleanup step just starts over again if you do anything"
me "no, it doesn't."
opponent "yes it does"

and repeat the last 2 lines for a while.

Thus i offer the following questions:
1. At what point in the end of turn does regeneration shield expire?  Specifically do they last "until end of turn" or end "at end of turn," which is a pretty huge difference.

2. Do players ever receive priority during the cleanup step?

3. If the cleanup step is interrupted by any means, does it restart?


I know these all sound like pretty simple questions, but i wanted backup on it.

Actually, turning the white one into a 7 mana wrath with like a 12 mana recur would be a very lovely card - forcing you opponent into a real clock like they do you.  It becomes a huge race to whoever can create the best board postion, and it leaves you forced to come up with something that can win before your opponent can come back (you can wrath your own dude, but its going to be hard.) and at a 19 mana recur and cast, your opponent is most assuredly going to get a swing unless you are running tron.

Does it need to be changed at all aside from that?

If this is a huge flooding beat, then why does the flooding stop on your opponents turn?  IF the concept is that this thing is flooding, growing weaker with every passing moment but stopping the onslaught in the mean time, why do all of your opponents creatures get to fight through it?  I am thinking something like this:

CARDNAME {COST}
CARDNAME comes into play with X +1/+1 counters on it
At the beginning of your upkeep remove a +1/+1 counter from CARDNAME.
All other non-flying creatures can't attack or block.
P/T

This gives it a ton of playability, possibility, and doesn't have any crazed brokenness either.  You are forced to run flying creatures, but still have them out on turn 6 (I think this strong of an ability would have to be around 6 mana).  It turns the game into an interesting situation, and the best part is that this doesn't even have to be a creature in and of itself.  An enchantment fits this flavor as well, and shuts off the potential of an unblockable guy.

Two questions about this card:
1. Is snow mana going to be used in the set in order for this to be of use?
2. Does this HAVE to use snow mana?  It seems like this could be a pretty interesting blue card in general, even without the snow flavor (something like a tropical storm or hurricane that prevents them from flying).  And this would be a great uncommon in the set if it (the set) doesn't use snow.

This honestly seems much worse then trove - your opponent gets to kill your draw with any removal, or at the very worst gets to beat you for 2 a turn.

Lowering the draw to UU/1U would make it pretty interesting.

Because limited is pretty janky without cantrips, and so is a set in general, I present another one for the books:

racked thought   U
instant
shuffle target players library
draw a card.

This card could see light play all over the place; in eternal or any format with brainstorm this is your extra fetchlands, in standard its a good hoser to condemn, and in limited it can serve all kinds of kooky fun with spells that revolve around the top of players libraries.  I am unsure as yo whether or not it should effect you, your opponents, either, or both libraries, so thats the first point for debate.  All in all its a fun little card, and will make for a good common.

current wording
racked thought    U
instant
Target player shuffles their library
draw a card.

I think this is a pretty good uncommon for the set (it would be uncommon, right?).  If cost is even slightly an issue, why not just make it 1WW to avoid the whole finding a bob or mongrel thing slightly too (the logic being 1WW is hard to carry along with other 2 drops that require different colors.)?

I agree that it shouldn't have flying, but everything else seems fine.  make it tap all other creatures and it would be a pretty flavorful card.  Maybe even make it an every upkeep effect to stop your opponent from attacking you as well, but making it die faster.  Another idea would be to make it "at the begginning of each upkeep you may remove a +1/+1 counter" this adds a whole different level of interaction and playability, and makes the 6cc more worthwhile without being broken.

Ok, going with no outside information,and sheer guessing off the top of my head:

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 156 players 1 point
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 12 2 points
3. How many Swords to Plowshares in the Top 8? 8 2 points
4. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 8 0 points
5. How many Standard-legal cards in the Top 8? 22 0 points
6. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: brainstorm 2 points
b. White card: swords to plowshares 2 points
c. Green card: nimble mongoose 2 points
d. Red card: lightning bolt 0 points
e. Black card: duress 0 points
f. Gold card: psychatog 0 points
g. artifact: pithing needle 0 points
h. non-land card (most popular of 6a-g): brainstorm 3 points
7. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? island 0 points
8. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? tropical island 2 points
9. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) yes 1 point
10. Threshold (UWG) in the T8? (yes or no) yes 0 points
11. Threshold (other) in the T8? (yes or no) yes 1 point
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) no 1 point
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) yes 0 points
14. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) no 1 point
15. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? high tide 0 points

BONUS
14. __UGW threshold_ [deck] will take first place. 0 points
15. The winner will be: __Dan Spero__. (Specific player name)   <3  - Bardo 0 points

Total: 20 points

Force off a misderection stops stifle as well.  I really just don't see the one instant being a problem with the amount of answers that can be run here, and the tutors to find them.

This card is a really flavorful card, and will do nicely to fill up the common slots. (/ my 2 cents).

A djinn seems really cool (a genie who went made and blew everything up) but does wizards still do djinn?

Changed wroding, 24 hour clock

Cumulative upkeep isn't OK here - the set so far has a tone of counter related cards, so cumulative wont see any light there.  On the other hand something like "at the begginning of your upkeep you lose 7 life or sacrifice [CARDNAME]" should work well enough.

Everyone wants a big creature, but why does that big creature have to have big power?  A 0/10 that destroys the world seems kind of weird, but it would make sense flavor wise as a goblin/ wizard/ demon/ whatever that blew up the world then lost all its power.

They do with huge ass uncontrollable wands in their hands.

I was mulling over the sorcery speed thing not to long ago.  The only reason i wanted it was that it actually makes this thing killable, which is pretty nice, and it can actually attack your opponent with a sword, pointy stick, or strong sense of curiosity attached to it if it has to.
The other thing i was considering was to make it "remove a card in hand" to try and lower the combo rificness of a card that can both sacrifice your stuff, and put things from your hand in the grave.

Goblin makes some sense as it falls into the line of the pyromancer and the wizard.  Name idea; Goblin Wand Master.  Flavor text, "Finally, after 63,271 lost eyebrows,  the goblins mastered the wand."  or some other throw back to pyromancer.

That's going by the general cantrip rule presented this week - take a card thats on the curve, add 2 mana, draw a card.  The reason, I believe, electrolyze requires the blue mana is that the damage can be divided.  Consider adding 2 mana to Fire (from fire/ice) and you have a 4 mana cantrip, so 2 of that is converted to U (a second color to a card is generally equivalent to 2 generic mana).  But I am just going by the official design rules presented by mtg.com, so I may be wrong.