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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Suicide Black Control on: November 24, 2007, 11:48:56 pm
I have been playing a deck similar to this in my metagame (mostly control and combo and littered with bad random aggro decks) and i have been having good results with it. This is the list i have been running



 Creatures
4 Dark Confidant
2 Hypnotic Specter
4 Nantuko Shade
3 Oona's Prowler
1 Phyrexian Negator
2 Withered Wretch


Spells
4 Dark Ritual 
3 Diabolic Edict
4 Duress
3 Thoughtseize
2 Cabal Therapy
3 Extirpate
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor

Artifacts
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tormod's Crypt
1  Umezawa's Jitte    


Lands
4 Bloodstained Mire    
3 Mishra's Factory    
1 Strip Mine
8 Swamp    
3 Wasteland

 Sideboard
2 Mesmeric Fiend
1 Phyrexian Negator
2 Infest
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Pithing Needle
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: The Mountains Win Again on: August 20, 2007, 10:43:03 am
10th place with jagged poppet. AWESOME!!! Congrats.

I have a question tho. I have been reading TMWA thread latley and i see that many people run Gathan Raiders in thier builds. I'm wondering if i missed something, because i really dont understand why hes so worth running. I must not be understanding quite the way that he works. If you could enlighten me i would really appreciate it! thanks

Gathan Raiders is good for these decks partially because some of them play a few madness cards and this lets you discard them, also these decks use their hands up very quickly so its not hard that by turn 3 you are morphing the gathan raiders then pitching your last card making the raiders 5/5 for 3 mana which is a very efficient beating stick.
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: B/G Sui Black-ish Deck on: August 17, 2007, 12:09:52 pm
Strip Mine has three advantages over Stone Rain: being free, having more than one function (taps for mana) and not being counterable. I don't know whether it should be in the Sideboard; when you need it, you can also cast DT/Vampiric to get it, and those two are less likely being countered than Living Wish.

I'm no vintage expert, but Spiritmonger looks worse than the forth Confidant.

Stone rain? who mentioned that. And strip mine is in the board so it can be gotten with living wish and if you have a crucible in play most people are going to counter a DT/VT anyways and if you dont have the crucible in play most people probably wont think a huge about about a living wish cause they will think they can counter whatever i bring in assuming it is a creautre. Also maindeck there are 7 more mana denial cards (wasteland and ghost quarters) so i dont think having the strip in the side board is that huge of an issue. And the fourth confidant is there but hes just in the sideboard so he can be obtained by living wish, therefore i have 3 maindeck and 3 living wishes maindeck so technically i have 6 chances to draw one. Spiritmonger is there as a one of in the deck because against certain matchups tarmogoyf wont be getting that big and spirit monger will add a clock so you opponent has to deal with it fast or they lose.
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: B/G Sui Black-ish Deck on: August 16, 2007, 01:25:57 pm
I have been working on this version for a littelwhile now. It is bit different becasue it is more disruptive and less agressive but I thought I would post it becuase it fits near the same catagory

    Mana sources
4 Bayou
4 fetch
4 waste
3 ghost quarters
3 swamp
forest
treetop village
mox jet
mox emerald
black lotus
mana crypt

    Creatures
3 Dark Confidant
2 Withered Wretch
1 Yixlid Jailer
3 Tarmogoyf
1 Spiritmonger

    Spells
4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Root maze
2 Pithing Needle
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Pernicious Deed
Darkblast
Engineered Explosives
3 Living Wish
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor

    Sideboard
Dark Confidant
Withered Wretch
Yixlid Jailer
Spirit Monger
Thrashing Wumpus
Strip Mine
Maze of Ith
2 Mesmeric Fiend
2 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Leyline of the Void

This deck has alot of early disruption with duress, therapy, rootmaze, darkblast, jailer, ee and crypt to counter first and second turn craziness

It also has good mana denial with the ability to lock with crucible and the strip mine is in the side board so it can be tutored for with living wish.

 As for living wish itself, it can get yixlid jailer against ichorid, withered wretch against any graveyard abuse, Thrashing wumpus against aggro/EtW, Maze of ith against DSC/Oath creatures, Stripmine for the lock. Also in circumstances where you dont need any tech peices you can use it to get spirit monger or bob
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: B/G Fish on: July 18, 2007, 12:41:59 pm
@roat. I really like the tarmogoyf idea i think i will take otu the shades i was finding them to black-heavy but i didn't know what else i should replace
them with. The rootwalla is really a meta game descision because my metagame is alot of early fast creatures and rootwalla is possibly bigger than all of them. My meta is fast creatures based decks but i could try putting in a bigger creature like spirit monger or grave-shell scarab but i think in most cases it will be to slow or get killed fast to swords or burn or some other random kill spell. The man lands are there becasue i find myself deeding away the board alot to take out like 4 of my opponents creatures durign his turn so with the man lands even if i dont have ac reature i can activate and start attacking next turn getting ahead again. When i made this deck seal of primordial wasn't out so i over looked it but i think its a good idea and i will switch them. And i like the idea of more early disruption i never thought of root maze but i dont knwo what i should cut.

@silvernail. Fast creatures/Utility creatures and disruption i didn't know what else to call the deck and fish decks dont all play maindeck null rod.
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / B/G Fish on: July 15, 2007, 07:42:50 pm
Alright, so i have been playing this deck in my meta game for sometime now and it seems to be working alright. I thought i would post it here and seewhat advice i can get towards it.

Manabase(22)

4 Swamp
2 Forest
4 Bayou
4 Fetch
3 Mishra's Factory
1 Treetop Village
1 Strip Mine
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Black Lotus

Creatures(18)

4 Wild Mongrel
4 Dark Confidant
3 Nantuko Shade
3 River Boa
2 Withered Wretch
2 Basking Rootwalla

Spells(20)

4 Duress
3 Rancor
3 Diabolic Edict
1 Dark Blast
2 Pernicious Deed
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Naturalize
1 Pithing Needle

Side Board

3 Null Rod
3 Mesmeric Fiend
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Massacre
2 Oxidize
1 Naturalize
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Sword of Light and Shadow

My metagame usually consists mainly of 1-2 fish decks, 1-2 combo, 1 control, 1 oath and 2-6 other random mostly aggro decks (mono red, white weenie, green stompy, black suicide). With the occasional extra player comming and playing another random tier one deck.
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