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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Premium Article] Insider Trading - Are Proxies Hurting Vintage Tournament Atten on: January 16, 2009, 11:07:28 pm
Menendian offers cheap bourgeoisie psychology as his justification for disenfranchising a huge percent of the current Vintage player base.

If you believe his arguments are not entirely driven by profit-motive I direct you to the following post which conveniently follows directly after a Menendian post:

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Just one TO's perspective.

Attendance is only one way of measuring success at a tournament.   I would get 30+ players when I ran proxy events but would sell few if any cards to the players.  Why should I expect to sell cards to players who don't need them?  In an earlier post Steve Menendian mentions that winners of power don't keep and use the card for future tournaments.  They go straight to eBay.  I now only run sanctioned events with additional prizes for best performing non-powered deck.  This has piqued the interest of quite a few players at my store and my sales of singles is pretty healthy because of it.  As time goes on some these players who are un-powered have eventually purchase P9 cards.  The bottom line to my jibberish is that I would rather have 20+ players at a sanctioned event than 30+ at a proxy event.  This gives me long term customers and a financial reason to even consider hosting events.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Carl

I almost never post here for the simple reason that it is much too Menendian-centric and I am of the opinion that Menendian is one of the worst things to happen to Vintage as a format.  As a smug thin-skinned blowhard know-it-all he attracts only the same who then become by fiat "the face of the format".  Has anyone considered that a virtual cult has arisen around a man-child who can not resist responding everytime he is "called out" on an internet message board?  I understand all of Magic is somewhat nerdy, but I can't be the only one repulsed from this community by what can only be termed a "nerdocracy"


All of Menedian and his toadies' argments, diatribes, "suggestions" etc work only in favor of a select, privileged few and are always tilted in their own interests.

Perhaps people sell power, Steve, because it is represents an unjustifialbe "luxury" item considering what other things that amount of money could fetch, even if spent so-to-speak frivilously on other entertainment items.  It is very convenient for you personally, and a few other "elite" (in your own mind) who own power, to draw clever arguments on why "proxies are bad for the format".  Without proxies there is no format.

Blatant Flame. Full warning.
--TAL
2  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Financial Catastrophe on: September 25, 2008, 12:05:02 am
JuggernautGO: I was going to write lots of off-topic stuff about the nature of insurance, but I think Matt said it best.
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I don't think you understand what insurance is (supposed to be/do).

"Insurance", as a concept, is not a problem. Insurance-for-profit, in a situation which incentivizes the maximization of profits to the exclusion of all else, is.
There is a direct relationship between the cost of health care and the cost of health insurance.
Is there some kind of imaginable universe where there is not a direct relationship between these two things? (If we're bringing up health insurance because of AIG, only 4.2% of their domestic "gross premiums written" in 2007 were for Accident & Health products.)

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By paying this 700 billion dollars, the federal government is just the next jackhole investor looking to make a quick buck on the interest of the money put in(the bail out program is said to continue 1 full year.)   Where is the payback supposed to come from?  We are paying this money with no realistic way of ever getting it back.  If the corporations can't collect on the loans now, how are they magically going to come up with 700 billion dollars + interest in 1 calendar year.
This is not quite the case. The reason that financial companies have to sell the distressed loans at fire-sale prices is, while partly based on the actual portion of the loans that are delinquent, heavily based on an accounting rule known as "mark-to-market". While I'm not an accountant, my understanding is that the companies are required to report declines in the value of their assets exactly as if they were about to sell all of them immediately. So when there is almost no one willing to buy these securitized, toxic mortgages the company has to report them at the ultra-low prices that the few which are being sold have received.

These losses---which are largely hypothetical until/unless the company actually sells the asset---count against their "equity" which is their actual, available money. In order to keep things running, deal with investor redemption of deposits, etc., each company must maintain a certain equity relative to its liabilities, so these hypothetical losses lead to very real scrambles for cash in order to keep the gears turning. One of the reasons I've heard for Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley declaring themselves to be "regular" banks instead of investment banks over the weekend is that they can label some of their assets as "for investment", allowing them to avoid mark-to-market requirements while they hold them until the market is less catastrophic.

I guess what I'm driving at is that, instead of spending $700x109, they could have changed an accounting rule, for instance by allowing companies to use some kind of "discounted cash-flow" valuation, which would allow them to value it based on original loan value times the percent of loans that are not delinquent. (As in, how bad it actually is, instead of how bad the market fears it might be.) But I guess 700 billion isn't that big a deal to a Congressman, so we're doing that instead.

Some of this is factually incorrect, but even if it were totally correct factually, it misses the bigger picture.  First of all, equity is not the same as cash on hand, not even close.

Second, these financial institutions are not insolvent because of a mere oddity of definition or reporting requirements.  "Stringency" of reporting standards is a punchline.  As you said there is no one to buy these "toxic" assets, with toxic being the operative word. 

Whether that means in the long run they have no value couldn't matter less.  "The market" is an exercise in mass psychology.  A 1% loss in equity is all she wrote.

As for "must maintain a certain equity-to-liabilities" ratio, sure if you mean that they're leveraged 50 or 100 times over..
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Dear Wizards, please fix Mox Diamond on: July 06, 2008, 12:37:11 pm
I have a hard time believing most of the peopel who are making this argument.  It is rather obvious that you all have a vested interest in your pet cards becoming playable again.

I support original intent as long as all counter-spells are given Split Second along with all cards printed as or intended as interrupts.

If all counterspells had split second, then you wouldn't be able to Burnout a Dismiss in mental magic; and honestly, who wants to not be able to do that?


My opinion is partially motivated by the casual group highlander games that I play with my friends. I go to play a card and have to say, "The text on this card is wrong. Its current wording is ~foo~. This is what it actually does."

Having a card's functionality match its print is very important. It creates far fewer awkward situations and less upset people.

I'm not questioning anyone's personal opinions, but it is an obvious fact that this "outcry" by prominent Vintage players is in keeping with the duplicity they've displayed in the past
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Dear Wizards, please fix Mox Diamond on: July 02, 2008, 02:55:56 pm
I have a hard time believing most of the peopel who are making this argument.  It is rather obvious that you all have a vested interest in your pet cards becoming playable again.

I support original intent as long as all counter-spells are given Split Second along with all cards printed as or intended as interrupts.
5  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: June 1st Restrictions, Best Idea Ever on: June 02, 2008, 02:06:49 pm
Thank you for this, Brainstorm was the most obnoxious card in the format by far.  Plus judges are way too lenient on calling slow play surrounding the card

My own idea to nerf blue was to restrict both blue fetchlands rather than Brainstorm.  That would've also hit the shuffling interaction with Brainstorm to some extent.
6  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Brainstorm, Flash, Gush, Scroll, and Ponder Restricted on: June 02, 2008, 01:57:50 pm
All the arguments that blue "deserved" to have more powerful cards on the basis that blue decks are "harder to play" are BS and have been finally slapped down as the blatant favoritism they are.
7  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Brainstorm, Flash, Gush, Scroll, and Ponder Restricted on: June 02, 2008, 01:48:28 am
I'm elated.  It almost makes me think someone at Wizards actually read the emails I've fired off when they've sought player input on the format.

All of the reasons trotted out for non-blue decks being unacceptable -- boring, not enough playskill, not interactive enough, too ready made, whatever -- are exceedingly disingenuous.    

Blue has had an absolute stangelhold on the format for far too long -- not so long ago the attack phase was the butt of jokes -- remember that?  It was well past time for something different and more interesting, a fact that this BR update dramatically emphasizes.  

How people lobbying for the continued domination of blue can call any other strategy boring is beyond absurd.  You do realize that most players at a tournament DO NOT LIKE 50 MINUTES GAMES and rounds that are prolonged because egotistical control players have gone into extra turns.  

Worse yet is the hypocrisy.  When Ponder, a card that is clearly not overpowered, gets restricted in the interest of a more enjoyable format it is met with incredulity and hostility.  Yet when Trinisphere, a card that is clearly not overpowered, was restricted it was met with much positive fanfare and appreciative reaction.  Trinisphere's greatest "crime" seemed to be that blue players whined that it was "unfair" to their strategy.  The tables are certainly turned, aren't they?

My personal hope is this move vitalizes the format with an influx of players that aren't so wedded to the extremely boring and played out strategies that have defined Vintage for far, far too long (ie the color blue).  There is a ton of untapped innovation out there, and for once it feels like the playing field is level for everyone
8  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Aggro better in Vintage? Deck and format discussion! on: September 14, 2007, 12:01:14 am
I'm sorry for bumping such an old topic but I'm really interested in this deck and would like to continue the discussion.

I know he'd like to keep the deck mono green but perhaps he can replace some forests with Tropical Island or Breeding Pools and add in a few copies of Mana Leak/Stifle/Trickbind somewhere?  Since the Tropical Islands and Breeding Pools are forests you can search for them with Land Grant if you need to.

I was also wondering if Soultether Golem and Seedtime would somehow fit in the deck? A Seedtime could be fun after your opponent plays an EOT Brainstorm or something similar.

Edit: Would Groundbreaker be a decent choice for this deck?


The problem to me is that you need

a. enough offensive creatures to swarm -- say ~20 -- and some alt-cc ways to play them on the first turn (such as Elvish Spirit Guide)
b. Berserk to have any chance of killing fast enough to be competitive which entails 16 pumps at a minimum (including the 4 Berserks)
c.  a minimum maindeck disruption package of:

4 Root Maze
4 Leyline Of The Void
4 Chalice Of The Void

There just isn't room for all of that, even if you are playing "9 Land"
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