Or you could have LED in play and cast wheel with other mana and in response to dicarding your hand for wheel, you crack the LED for mana that you think you can use for the 7 cards you are about to draw.

Have you considered painter/grindstone combo as well. That can happen on turn 1 with 6 mana, which happens a lot in shop decks.

I have to say that vial is not awful at all. You can play creatures on your opponent's turn and play creatures if they destroy your mana base and they are uncounterable.

I think think that monkies and stifles need to be matched up with a few wastelands and this build would be great. With the addition of wastelands, your deck will have a perfect amount of mana denial to not be a dabbler.

I agree. Vandal sucks! he's just not quick enough. I need instant gratification, and Vandal doesn't deliver.

I thought that the duplicant would get the current p/t of the gof, but not grow and shrink because duplicant does not gain creature's abilities.

I get your point about planar void although I am still not sold on the Vandal. I just think he is too slow. For the purpose of shutting off their moxes, I would much prefer a gorilla shaman even though it is not a goblin. Or even a viashino heretic. Right now I am sideboarding 2 ingot chewers, 2 shattering sprees, and a null rod and it seems to be working out much better than vandal did.

so this means i die before i can use sharpshooter? I think i got it. I'll have to look more into APNAP order. That's a little foggy for me.

I have a Goblin Sharpshooter, 2 Goblin Warchiefs, an Earwig Squad, a Goblin Piledriver, and 2 Goblin Ringleaders in play and I am at 3 life.

My Opponent has a silent arbiter, an arcbound ravager, a mishra's factory, a karn, silver golem, and a stuffy doll in play and is at 7 life.

I cycle a gempalm incinerator and kill the silent arbiter. I attack with everything but the sharpshooter. My opponent blocks the piledriver with the stuffy doll, redirecting 11 damage back at me. He blocks the earwig squad with the ravager, a ringleader with karn, and a warchief with the factory. This leaves 4 damage going through to him bringing him down to 3.

With damage still on the stack, can I tap the sharpshooter and ping him as each blocked creature goes to the graveyard and kill him as well? I think this game should end up as a draw, but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks.

Oops! I edited it. I meant vandal.

Also, as far as planar void, I was also thinking it wouldn't stop sharpshooter because things still go to graveyard and then are rfg, where as leyline they go straight to rfg.

I have been testing goblins lately and I have found aether vial to be very nice. It allows you to drop multiple threats in a single turn or drop goblins on your opponents turn. Very nice! Also, it helps you keep up if they keep getting rid of your goblins.

As for earwig squad, I find they are amazing against all but workshop decks. In workshop decks, there are 4 of everything so it would take 3 or 4 earwigs to cripple them enough. Often earwig is just a good beatstick against them. Maybe removing their workshops from the library might be the best decision.

Goblin VANDAL, I'm not too impressed. I find it too slow. I would rather just drop an ingot chewer or shattering spree. You just can't search for them because they aren't goblins, but they work much much better. Tin street hooligan is the best goblin artifact destruction, but as an above poster stated, you need green and if warchief is in play, it negates the colorless part of the casting cost stripping the ability from hooligan.

I have also tested Vexxing shusher and chalice, but they seem to compromise the speed of goblins. I put shusher in the sideboard and removed chalice entirely. It was getting away from how goblins are played. Shushers are definitly good to side in against control though.

I'm thinking of leyline of the void because, so far without it, dredge is the worst match up. I'm not sure if I should mainboard or sideboard them however. Another idea may be Planar Void because goblins doesn't really use it's own graveyard, so why not use planar void because it is much easier to hardcast. I will do some testing with this.

Any other ideas would be great. Perhaps another 1 drop bomb.

It already worked good as a component and main focus of certain decks. I think it will have a much bigger impact now perhaps in decks like Deeznoughts.

No

this is the greatest thing ever! Things will actually be unpredictable for a short while. No reason to quit or cry about. This should be exciting. Now I can use other cards!

Dude, what about the other 3 rounds?

bitterblossom is absolutely necessary!

I am eager to see the decklists. I think I may finally give into netdecking. 

I'm ready this time. You can include that ruby along with my time walk winnings 

I got the impression that he was saying Jews go for the cheap win!

I played against this deck last night on MWS. It is very very nasty. It's seems like a fun deck and is even fun to lose to.

I'm a big fan of trinket mage. 3 trinket mages turns all of your 0 and 1 casting cost artifacts into 4 ofs. 3 trinket mages = 4 noughts from 1, 4 crypts from 1, 4 engineered explosives from 1, 4 lotus from 1, and 4 tops from 1.

That sucks. As it is only 16 dollars, it is obviously not worth lawyers lol! The best we can do is boycott!

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Gaea's Blessing will be in my sideboard

LOL!

I already have the Time Walk in my mind. You can pre-register me.

Thanks a lot. I guess I don't need a beater that bad. If I do, I'll just splash  for goyfs lol.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me of a  or  beater for under 3 mana, possibly 2 mana. I'm looking for something like Tarmogoyf or Jotun Grunt, but it must be  or  . Thanks.

I am far from the best vintage player, but I will say this, "I do not play any other format."  I love vintage. It is powerful. It is valuable. It is nostalgic. It is virtually boundless. There are no little children playing.

Sure there are top decks, that take over the metagame for a little while until the next top decks, but I find it fun to struggle through with a deck that I enjoy. Some people play to win and always switch to the current top deck and some people play to have fun and play the deck they enjoy.

100% Vintage for me even though I can't afford a lot of it and I'm not that good. I can still afford more than little children and I'm not the worst vintage player.

I understand the Deez Noughts build is a great deck, but what I am trying to do is make a  Patriot deck and have it be viable. How bad would you feel if you got beat by an patriot deck? That is what I'm trying to do. I am trying to make a silly idea work.