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1  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Bomberman Redux on: April 26, 2013, 10:24:09 am
Ok so your hand is Land mox RiP FoW Ucard and 2 other cards...

Maybe my english is bad (I'm French), but my opinion is not to say that RiP is the worst card ever against Dredge. It is just to say that there are plenty of situations where it is not as good as you estimate it.

When you say :
Quote
That's a bit excessive to go with a Bazaar and Unmask + Black Card. I can construct god hands for any deck that will be fast as hell. It's unrealistic for this to happen with any degree of regularity.

My only answer is :
Ok, but if you just want to test against Dredge with a mull3 every game, I'm not sure it is very relevant. When I test against dredge, I want to test against dredge "full weapon". For example, in our test with CwaM, I always keep a 6 cards hand in which I add a BoB. That way, we can really have a good opinion on the different cards we're testing.

And I'm not sure that hands with BoB + Unmask + Black card is  so hard to get. Even more when a BoB activation gives you 2 more cards.
2  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Bomberman Redux on: April 26, 2013, 07:59:32 am
We tested with the list that won LCV in march.

Let's assume we're on the play. We play land go. They play Bazaar go. We play land + RiP, seems fine.

They activate Bazar, play Unmask.

Let's assume they're on the play. They play Bazaar go. We play Land + Mox/Crypt + RiP, seems fine.

Same than #1

Let's assume they're on the play. They play Bazaar go.  We play Land pass. They have to have 1-2 Dredgers, multiple Cabal Therapy and Bridges, and at least 1 Narcomeba(has to flip)/Bloodghast(w/ 2nd Land) all in say 15 cards (best case scenario for them) Even with all of that, we can still Misstep/Fow our way into a RiP. They might have 2-3 Zombies, but we have creatures too.

Dredge, with only 1 BoB can dredge until 18 cards at his first turn. It is 30% of his deck to fine let's say 2 cabal (or 1 in yard another in hand) and 2 creatures. I guess there is a significant percentage that it can happen. That can work with a land+ Fatestitcher also.


I'm not saying that RiP is awful, is useless or whatever. I'm just saying that there are multiple (a lot of ?) situations where it is not as efficient as what you can imagine.
However I'll test it 'cause I think that it is one of the best hate after turn1. I mean, I'd rather having a tormod / nihil in my opening hand and let him manage with it the time I can draw my RiP few turns after, than having a RiP in my opening hand and draw Trmod / nihil after.
3  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Bomberman Redux on: April 26, 2013, 05:21:36 am
Hi there !

I am the finalist of the tournament won by CwaM and was not exactly playing the same list. I kept the 3 MD Islands 'cause basics seem to be such a manadatory game plan against MUD.

As mentionned, we tested against Dredge and my opinion is that we have the right number of hate slot in the deck but they are not as efficient as needed. I share CwaM's feeling about RiP as 2-manas hates are just "bad" against dredge since you can't play it on turn 1.
However, since Dredge does not include Dread Return, I think we can test one or two RiP and prey with our 6 free counter (Misstep and FoW) that we will survive one turn to play it, hoping we won't have a zombie invasion during that time...

+1 on mana crypt ! Since I play the deck, I never missed it !

@Kirika:
I guess Council is just bad as it costs too much than his effect. I'd rather playing Jace than playing council to play Jace after that.
For Thief, I really like the idea since it is a human (cavern) and it will not be attended. The issue is : which card do you want to remove from the SB to add it ?


Concerning Devout Witness, I'm really surprized on how you can play a 3CCM card and pass the turn, hoping not to die before having an effect ? I played Energy Flux during the tournament and was "happy" about it with the addition of other hates to manage with creatures (StP and Disenchant).
4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Darkblast vs Funeral Charm on: November 14, 2009, 04:54:38 pm
What about Disfigure ?
5  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: French Vintage Cup '09 Finals - Top8 decklists on: October 20, 2009, 03:11:00 am
Interesting lists, congratulations to all the top 8 participants.

I think it is now safe to say, that UGW Noble/Selkie Fish ist not only the best Fish deck around. It is also one of the three best decks in the format (beside Confidant-Combo-Control and Aggro Mud).

Noble has been recently in the top 8 of the both biggest vintage worldwide (Ovinogeddon and Annecy) and has won several medium sized tournaments like this and the Lotus run in Zürich with 55 participants. Great deck, great results.

Edit: Funny sideboard tool this Burrenton thing. I guess the Selkie players were expeting lots of Pyroclasms. Did it work out as an answer?

Hey,

I'm the finalist player (Benjamin GUILLERM with Selkie)

I totally agree with you concerning the deck, and its strong is that players have not yet find how to play against this deck. I think that Darkblast is such a BAD idea against this deck and think that Perish or Massacre is such better !

Concerning Burrenton, it replaces Children of Korlis :
Children was better in a combo metagame with a lot of TPS or Drain-Tendrill ; But Burrenton is better against goblin and Tezz-R (side in Pyroclasm)

It's clearly a metagame choice !
6  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: September 28, 2009, 03:16:48 am
Common everybody !!

up !!
7  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: September 22, 2009, 04:37:14 am
Up !
8  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: September 20, 2009, 05:03:50 am
Gimme an u : "U"
Gimme a p : "P"

GIMME AN UP !!

Come on !!
9  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: September 15, 2009, 12:06:51 pm
I Really like this tournament, maybe me and a friend will come from Breda Holland.

Greetz Arjan

Hey !!

Such a good news !!

Come on and pre-register everybody !!
10  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: August 25, 2009, 05:27:51 am
Up !
11  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: August 11, 2009, 05:27:06 am
Up!!
12  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: August 07, 2009, 04:17:58 am
Up !
13  Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / PARIS - October 4th - 3 MOXES TO WIN !! on: August 04, 2009, 05:31:07 am

 


 
In association with the club Fléau d'Acier, I am
 glad
  to present today:

 
 
Levallois 2nd edition (PARIS) !!
 
  Sunday, October 4

 
  Location:
  6 bis rue Arthur Ladwig
  92300 LEVALLOIS PERRET
 
 
 http://maps.google.fr/maps?q=6
  +bis+rue+Arthur+Ladwig+,+92300+LEVALLOIS
 
 +PERRET&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=fr&ll=48.892995,2.294791

  &spn=0.009368,0.01929&z=16
 

 
  Access:
  Clichy-Levallois station (train from Saint Lazare station) or Louise
 Michel
  station (subway Line 3) or
  Bus Line #94 or #174 or #274.
 
  Car: Porte d'Asnières (500m)
 
 
  Info:
  Opening: 10h00
  Start of tournament: 11h00 exactly (first round)
  Start of EDH side-event: 15h00 (end of the fourth round)
  Top8 around 18h
  Entry fee: 15€ or 8€ for girls and players less than 15 years old
  Maximum number of players: 127
  DCI : sanctionned tournament
  CDF : sanctionned tournament
 
  Accomodation: the Parisian community will do its best to put everybody up
 !
 
  Prizes structure depends on the number of players, and thus could change
 in
  one way or another.
 
 


 
Prizes !

  With 45 players:
 
  1st : Mox Sapphire Unlim
  2nd : Mox Pearl Unlim
  3rd : Mana Drain VI
  4th : Mana Drain VI
  5th : Dual land white borders with blue
  6th : Dual land white borders with blue
  7th : Dual land white borders with blue
  8th : Dual land white borders with blue
 
 
  Over 60 players:
 
  1st : Mox Pearl BETA !!!!]
  2nd : Mox Sapphire Unlim
  3rd : Mox Pearl Unlim
  4th : 2 * Mana Drain VI
  5th : Dual land white borders with blue
  6th : Dual land white borders with blue
  7th : Dual land white borders with blue
  8th : Dual land white borders with blue
 
 
  First Budget player: Library of Alexandria
 
  Budget decks are decks that do not play the following cards:
  - the 5 moxen Alpha, Beta, Unlim
  - Black Lotus
  - Ancestral Recall
  - Time Walk
  - Timetwister
  - Bazaar of Baghdad,
  - Library of Alexandria
  - Mishra's Workshop
 
  pre-registration: --- benjamin.guillerm@gmail.com
 
 


 
SIDE-EVENT : EDH !!

  An EDH side-event will take place on the tournament day, it will start at
  the end of the fourth round (around 15h).
 
  Entry fee: 7€ or 5€ if you attend the Vintage tournament
 
  Prizes :
 
  Over 10 players:
  - 1 Dual land with blue
  - 1 Dual land without blue
  - 1 Fetchland with blue
 
  Over 15 players:
  - 1 Library of Alexandria
  - 1 Dual land without blue
  - 1 Fetchland with blue
 
  EDH rules at the bottom.
 
 


 
NEW!!

  For this tournament, you can pre-order a t-shirt with the event logo
 (shown
  at the top of this message) on the front (at the heart level), and you
 can
  make write your name or pseudo on the back. Available in M, L, XL, white
 or
  black.
  Price: 12€.
 
  You can order it when pre-registering.
  Ordering deadline: 23 September 2009.
 
 


 
EDH RULES!!

 
Quote from: KevinD
Deckbuilding rules:
  •     Decks must contain exactly 100 cards.
  •     Decks are made of singletons exclusively, i.e. they can't have two
  cards with the same name, except for basic lands.
  •     One card must be a legendary creature that is the "General" of the
  deck.
  •     No card in the deck can have a mana symbol that is not present in
 the
  mana cost of the General.
  Example: Should the General be Doran, the Siege Tower, you can't play
 with
  Noble Hierarch, since the latter has a blue mana symbol in its text.
  •     No sideboard authorized.
 
 
  Specific rules :
  Each player begin the match with 30 life points.
  If a player would add a color mana that is not in his general mana cost, that player add a colorless mana instead.
 

  EDH basics :
  Vintage
 
  Mulligan :
  For tis tournament, the mulligan rule is the "Paris - Normandie" : You can choose X cards from your hand and put it aside. Then draw that number minus 1 and shuffle asides cards in your library
  Then, if you want to take another mulligan, it will be a standard mulligan : shuffle your whole hand in your library and draw that number of cards minus 1.
 
 
 Banned cards :

  o     Amulet of Quoz
  o     Bronze Tablet
  o     Contract from Below
  o     Darkpact
  o     Demonic Attorney
  o     Jeweled Bird
  o     Rebirth
  o     Tempest Efreet
  o     Timmerian Fiends
  o     Chaos Orb
  o     Falling Star
  o     Ancestral Recall
  o     Black Lotus
  o     Crucible of Worlds
  o     Gifts Ungiven
  o     Grindstone
  o     Karakas
  o     Mana Crypt
  o     Mind Twist
  o     Mindslaver
  o     Mox Emerald
  o     Mox Jet
  o     Mox Pearl
  o     Mox Ruby
  o     Mox Sapphire
  o     Necropotence
  o     Protean Hulk
  o     Riftsweeper
  o     Sensei's Divining Top
  o     Sol Ring
  o     Staff of Domination
  o     Sundering Titan
  o     Time Walk
  o     Time Vault
  o     Tinker
  o     Upheaval
  o     Yawgmoth's Bargain
 
  General Specific rules:
  •     The general begin the match exiled. It cannot be taken by a wish

  •     If your general should go to the graveyard, its owner can choose to exiled it instead. So that, it doesn't trigger graveyard ability.

  •     Each time you play your general from its Exiled zone, put a counter on it. You have to pay 2 colorless mana in addition of its mana cost per counter on it. You cannot remove counter on your general.

  •     Your general has the surtype : "General" and it cannot be remove by a spell or ability. So that, if a clone come into play and copy your general, the legend rules does apply.

  •     If a player receive at least 21 damages from a unique general, it loses the game.
 
14  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Premium Article]The Most Dominant Engine in Vintage History: The March/April on: May 13, 2009, 08:14:31 am
Nico, thanks for posting my Reaper deck  Wink (mets là sur Solo plutot !!)

I just want to agree with what Nico, Quentin, Deathknight, and fury said. To me, Drain is not THE problem, and i'd like to say that Vault/Key is just disturbing the metagame.

In fact, I just want to ask you something : Why do you want to restrict or unrestrict a card for the moment ? Since I play Vintage, it's the most interesting metagame I've played.

And if in the USA, you play ONLY against Tezz... why don't you try to build a new deck, totally in adequation with your metagame ?

Concerning our Top8s (I mean in France/Europe), example given just take in count the 1st place, but if you look at all decks played while the Top8 or the tournament, stas will be different.
I mean, if 35 players play Tezz in a tournament during a 45 players tournament... Yes, Tezz will be in Top8, but does it mean that the deck is the best ? It just mean that player want/like to play this deck.
15  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: VoidLineAggro on: August 13, 2008, 10:43:06 pm
You play G, and I can't see the best Green creature : Tarmogoyf.

Maybe could be a good include  Wink
16  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Seattle WA on: August 12, 2008, 05:51:04 pm
I'm still looking for Vintage players near of Seattle  Sad
17  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: MBC In Vintage? on: August 11, 2008, 01:37:46 pm
Ok, I'm not sure it is very competitive but :
- Splash G Tarmo ?
- Splah W like Pikula (not a good idea !)
- Waste/Strip
- Phyrexian Negator ?
18  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Whidbey Island WA on: August 10, 2008, 01:58:11 pm
Up !!

I can move on Seattle for the Week-end !!  Wink
19  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Vintage videos on: August 09, 2008, 12:56:38 am
Thanks everybody !!
20  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Vintage videos on: August 08, 2008, 01:20:55 pm
Hey !

I'm looking for Vintage videos I can watch on Youtube or anything else, does anybody have some links I can use ?

Thanks !
21  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: The Stratagy Behind the "Strategic Slaver" Deck on: August 07, 2008, 01:55:32 pm
ooooooooh i finally figured out what thran foundry was for haha thats pretty clever Smile
When is Foundry better than Crypt?  Just because you can use it to save yourself from Painter?

It goes over CotV at 0, no ?
22  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Deck] Stratego: Control-Combo with Strategic Planning on: August 07, 2008, 11:58:52 am
2) Why Merchant Scroll?  In a deck that is centered around Tinker and Will, Scroll searches for big, fat neither :\

Find Trall and/or counter  Wink
23  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Deck] MUC y2k8.5 f/Strategic Planning on: August 07, 2008, 11:33:50 am
Euh... Just a noob question : Why not Tefeiri ??
24  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Online Vendors and Order Canceling on: August 06, 2008, 10:07:06 pm
It is not the first time, it happened with Grinsdtone too...  Sad
25  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Deck] MUC y2k8.5 f/Strategic Planning on: August 06, 2008, 03:43:58 pm
Strategic Planning is good, even in the absence of any grave yard synergies, because it lets you see three cards.

...and then there's Deep Analysis.

Just 3 deep for grave synergies... I am not convinced  Wink

Planning is a good card, but hard to play and need grave synergies I think so.
Maybe AK could make more effects in addition of Planning ?
26  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Deck] MUC y2k8.5 f/Strategic Planning on: August 06, 2008, 03:11:17 pm
You don't use your Graveyard, so do you really think that Planning is good or just "a la mode" ?
27  Vintage Community Discussion / Community Introductions / Re: Introduce Yourself on: August 06, 2008, 07:53:00 am
Hey,

Benjamin from France, working on a random.deck since 2 years lol

In Seattle until mid-september and looking for players ...
28  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: The Stratagy Behind the "Strategic Slaver" Deck on: August 05, 2008, 01:44:22 pm
We were also joking how insane SP is with Goyf.   Turn one Goyf, turn two SP, GG

Lol  Very Happy
29  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: What are the most powerful/viable cards that you think are underplayed? on: August 05, 2008, 01:43:31 pm
Show and Tell obv !!
30  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Laptop recommendations on: August 05, 2008, 01:32:20 pm
Mac with BootCamp is the best way I think so  Wink
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