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1	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 16, 2008, 05:49:47 pm
Quote from: dopamine on August 15, 2008, 05:17:22 pm I'm fairly new to Vintage myself, so I'm a bit shakier on the addition of those sorts of things. (I'd also suggest Hellkite Overlord, by the way, it's the new 8/8 hasted flying trampling nonlegendary dragon ) Here's what I would do off the top of my head, keeping in mind that a casual meta like yours needs more answers to various things. Keep in mind that I did this in about 5 minutes, so it's not anywhere near perfect. Also, there might be some problems getting enough blue to support FoW. Creatures: 6 3 x Akroma, Angel of Wrath 3 x Hellkite Overlord Spell base: 33 4 x duress/thoughtseize (your choice) 4 x dark ritual 3 x careful study 4 x strategic planning (these are absurdly expensive right now, around $100 each unfortunately, but they're a synergistic draw spell that puts stuff in your graveyard) 1 x demonic tutor 1 x entomb 3 x exhume 4 x reanimate 1 x vampiric tutor 4 x serum powder 4 x Force of Will Land base: 21 4 x Bazaar of Baghdad 4 x Polluted Delta 4 x Flooded Strand 4 x Underground Sea 3 x Watery Grave 1 x Swamp 1 x Island Other cards to consider for casual fun: Hymn to Tourach After some research, and a lucky find on Ebay, I finally found the Hellkite Overlords you mentioned...pricy right now (assuming due to the rarity of them) but wow, amazing for reanimator.

2	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 16, 2008, 12:34:24 pm
Quote from: zeus-online on August 16, 2008, 12:05:41 pm You could go with dragon/ichorid ofcourse, but if you want to keep playing reanimate, i'd suggest adding Sundering titan(s) Unmask could also be a usefull card. ...And i think you should look for some card draw, dark confidant is always an option, but you could also splash blue for cards like careful study. Just my 2cents. /Zeus How important do you think bazaars are in reanimate?

3	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 15, 2008, 05:57:01 pm
I can't find a hellkite overlord listed anywhere.

4	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 15, 2008, 05:10:18 pm
Quote from: dopamine on August 15, 2008, 05:05:12 pm Here is the deck that Chris Nighbor ran at the Vintage Championships 2008: Chris Nighbor 2008 Vintage Championship Top 8 View a sample hand of this deck Main Deck 60 cards 4 Bazaar of Baghdad 4 City of Brass 3 Petrified Field 11 lands 1 Angel of Despair 1 Cephalid Sage 1 Flame-Kin Zealot 4 Golgari Grave-Troll 2 Golgari Thug 4 Ichorid 4 Narcomoeba 4 Stinkweed Imp 21 creatures 4 Bridge from Below 4 Cabal Therapy 4 Chalice of the Void 2 Darkblast 3 Dread Return 4 Leyline of the Void 4 Serum Powder 3 Unmask 28 other spells Sideboard 4 Chain of Vapor 3 Contagion 3 Gemstone Mine 1 Pithing Needle 4 Wispmare 15 sideboard cards As you can see, most of the cards in the deck are similar to extended Dredge, so your deck can do double duty - the only other cards I can see that cost any substantial amount at all are 1 Pithing Needle, 3 Gemstone Mine, 4 Leylines, 4 Chalice of the Void, and 4 Cabal Therapies (but you already have that covered). However, the deck is fairly susceptible to hate. If you want to build a competitive Vintage deck with minimal or no Power, however, your choices are basically this deck and Fish. Hey thanks a lot for your suggestions, I'll give this some practice over apprentice and see how it fairs!

5	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 15, 2008, 04:57:40 pm
Quote from: dopamine on August 15, 2008, 04:55:48 pm Also, if you'd like to make your deck more consistent, I'd also recommend cutting painlands and adding in Fetchlands, as well as cutting white for blue - cards like careful study and so on will help get cards into your graveyard more quickly, and you probably won't even miss being able to hardcast your reanimators (although it'll leave you a bit more vulnerable). Adding blue will also give you the option of protecting your combo with FoW and Misdirection. Do you have a suggested setup of that? (I assume it would be removal of the Duress/Therapies in exchange for those?

6	Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 15, 2008, 04:49:27 pm
Quote from: dopamine on August 15, 2008, 04:48:15 pm I would most definitely suggest the investment in Bazaars as: 1, they're a decent investment, 2, they'll make a reanimator strategy far more consistent and powerful, and 3, if you ever felt like playing competitive Vintage, you'd have really the most cost-prohibitive part of Ichorid already. I've had an online friend of mine suggest Ichorid instead, mostly because he doesn't like Reanimator... How much do you think a standard ichorid deck would run?

7	Eternal Formats / Creative / Fairly noob vintage player seeking aid!	on: August 15, 2008, 04:05:24 pm
Hey all, before I show you what I've created I should probably give you some idea of what I'm aiming to do. I play in a casual environment among friends almost every weekend using the vintage rules(Banned/Restricted, etc). Once in a while we go to local card shops and mingle with the crowds there as well. However, as time has passed, my friend(s) have developed their decks more and more into very strong machines that I simply cannot contend with anymore. Their decks don't contain any Power 9, but hold just about everything else (Drains, Library, FoW etc.). Now, I realize that the reanimator decks probably aren't Tier 1, and could only hope to be with Power, but I'm still trying to make this thing work. I really need suggestions on how I can improve this deck...even if you think it should be completely reworked... I'm willing to put a bit of money into it, so long as it doesn't contain Power 9 (I am considering bazaars). Here's what I have right now: Creature base: 4 x Akroma, Angel of Wrath 4 x Angel of Despair 1x Razia, Boros Archangel Spell base: 4 x cabal therapy 4 x dark ritual 1 x demonic tutor 4 x duress 1 x entomb 4 x exhume 4 x reanimate 4 x shallow grave 4 x swords to plowshares 1 x vampiric tutor Land base: 4 x Bazaar of Baghdad 3 x caves of koilos 4 x godless shrine 4 x scrubland 5 x swamp I realize that this deck idea is not original by any means, but I've attempted to add an angel theme to it. However, if you feel this hinders the deck in its win % then please suggest anything. Thanks in advance.

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