Thank you, this should be a fun event, first Eternal event out of the US I have played.

Does anyone know how far from the Tran Station BOM is at?  I am coming in from Paris on Friday but am having difficulty figuring out how close that will get me.

Hope you had a good turn out and looking forward to reading about the tournament, I was headed out the door with deck in hand when I caught wife aggro, need to find a good solution to that.

I had fun and am looking forward to being able to show up more often to these you should have included my poor play of not spell piercing your Ruby mid game that let you get a Lodestone into play, that was pretty bad on my part.

-Alex

I would think if anything Wizards should re-print the duals, from there we would have a good idea of what happens to the value of the cards with having very small (at least in comparrison to power) price difference to affect the collectors.  Do it as a boxed set so it won't see Standard Play, and then look at the data after 12-18 months to see if first it increased Legacy participation, and second what effect it had on the price of Revised and older Duals.

My .02

The three missing cards from Johnathon's sideboard were Firestorms

I think so, there are still enough games that come down to a slow attrition after a wasteland or two from your opponent where having Ichorid + Bridge to fall back on puts you over the top.

Thank you again Carl for running this I know both John and I had a great time playing some full on Vintage, I will deffinately be at the next one.

As far as the hate in the sideboards, personally I think it is not that their is not enough but instead that it is the wrong hate.
Leyline, Pithing Needle, and Relic are alot scarrier than Jailer and Crypt at least in my oppinion as an Ichorid player.

There is also the lotus to get it out quicker.
Maybe I am playing the deck considerably different than others but against keeper or other control type decks I try to play the better control deck setting up game breaking spells (intuition for AK, Future Sight, and Yawgmoths WIll) with Duress while steadily increasing my manabase.  
I will conceed the point that it is normally not a worthwile card to draw against aggro decks, but then again neither is the second manadrain since you normally drain their first 2-3cc spell (like you had said) to set up the intuition/AK then crush them with a Tog making every non-card draw spell just a +1.5/+1.5 to tog.  
If your metagame is control heavy I believe it is worth a try.  

-ALex[/quote]

In the Deed vs Shaman argument one thing that is missed is the number of times that you can autowin vs an opponent who kept the artifact mana heavy hand when you have an early shaman.  I know that everyone would ideally like to outplay their opponents but having "I win" cards for certain situations is deffinately worthwile IMO.  There is also the rare situation where you need a random mana dump from your drains, deed helps you once, but as long as your opponent has even a mox in play you can always use your shaman as an excess mana dump (you can target any artifact multiple times for the uniformed).
One card that I have always been a strong believer in for Hulk and any other deck running blue is Future Sight.  This card is so amazingly powerful that I feel it is warranted despite its steep cost.  You simply do not lose if you untap with futuresight in play, the number of cards it grants you is superior to any other draw spell in the format and it will prompt concessions upon its resolution against many Keeper and opposing Tog players.  I played it in the GenCon T1 Championships and never lost a game where it hit play.  
I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts/comments regarding Future Sight in Hulk.
-Alex

From the little amount of Slavery I have seen I would personally go with the Control Slavery Version.  Both decks have cards which allow you to make mid to late game plays in the early game (workshop and manadrain) but the Manadrain adds the advantage of just stopping your opponents biggest threats while generating a huge tempo advantage for you.
One other thing to consider is that where as a good opponent might play around Mana Drain if you have UU up (generating virtual tempo if you dont have it in hand) there is no real way to capitalize on your opponent not know whether or not you have workshop in your hand after the initial 1-3 turns.  So it would seem to me that as you play better and better players through the day it would be to your advantage to play the Control version.
I do have one question for AtogLord, you have said before that many of the aggro decks are poor matchups for the control version, have your tested with a single Firestorm in your SB?  It would seem to me that many times when you do not have the time to thirst/welder a slaver/pentavus/or angel into play due to the aggressive position of your opponent that you might be able to Wish for firestorm, discard artifacts that would be worth weldering into play and buy yourself a signifigant amount of time as well.  This is of course purely theoretical but seems like it is worth at least testing IMO.

-Alex

The biggest issue is being able to get this in play prior to the dragon player winning, Barring a Sol Ring on the play or a lotus/double Mox/ or manacrypt on the draw I really dont see this coming out prior to Dragon going off, deffinately kudos on the orriginal idea but I would think that testing would prove this card to be too slow, by all means test it out though and post your results.


-Alex

I have run Firestorm in Tog in two tournaments, once it was horrible as I never needed it facing nothing but control decks and the other time it was house as I faced multiple aggro decks (mainly Goblins and Sui).  So like every other card whether or not it makes the sideboard depends on your expected metagame.  Would I play it at Origins or another similar large tournament|? No.  Would I play it in local tournaments where I expect more aggro?  Without a doubt.