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 21 
 on: March 21, 2016, 07:35:22 pm 
Started by xouman - Last post by Grand Inquisitor
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I find it crazy that people could swear by Bob yet not give this the time of day

This is Bob, except it blanks every time you flip mana or a good card.  That's not good.

 22 
 on: March 21, 2016, 07:26:55 pm 
Started by xouman - Last post by Protoaddict
Not that bob is really tearing up the charts anymore, but I find it crazy that people could swear by Bob yet not give this the time of day.

If you know what you are doing this guys is almost always pure upside. If you reveal a non 0 cost card then it is either CA or Free damage, and if you reveal a 0 and they bin it you got something in the yard for free to pay for your delve.

In a R/U control shell this seems viable to me. Maybe along side Jori en, maxing out of topdeck fixers, and playing a bunch of control, maybe more so than usual.

 23 
 on: March 21, 2016, 06:39:23 pm 
Started by Changster - Last post by eliotd
I don't really want to wade into most of this back and forth but I will just say...

Personally, I think CE/IE are really nice.  The cards tend to be of higher quality condition, and have the rich flavor that brings Alpha and Beta into the format.  I would much rather look at a CE Black Lotus than an Unlimited one.  Don't others agree?  

...no. I'd prefer to see CE over Revised, for example for things like Jayemdae Tome, where getting a Beta or even Unlimited playset would be very obnoxiously expensive at this point. But I'd personally rather see Unlimited over CE as it feels more "real" to me. But certainly just a personal opinion that I know is not necessarily shared by all! Smile

Also on the general point I'll just add, kudos for starting the NY group and hope you guys have as much fun and success as we are having in Northern CA.

And since I can't help myself, to weigh in on the point of contention here, I'm glad to support CE/Revised/Chronicles in order to broaden the player base. It's hard enough even allowing those sets to get more than a handful of players together at any given time/place, so I think restricting to just the "hardcore" Swedish allowed sets would be shooting all of us, including those who have Beta everything, in the foot. I'd much rather be able to play more matches against a greater variety of decks than be beholden to the most "pure" form of throwback elitism. I take the "pimpness" factor as a personal challenge to incrementally improve the aesthetic appeal and collecting accomplishment of my own decks, but I certainly don't begrudge opponents who want to participate but have less insane spending priorities.

 24 
 on: March 21, 2016, 05:37:59 pm 
Started by Kameli0n - Last post by Kameli0n
Come out To The Players Guild for a chance to win store credit and earn free entry to the NYSE IV!

When:              Saturday April 30, 2016
                       Start time: 12:00 pm
                       (registration begins at 11:00 am)

The Host:         Shawn Griffiths (kameli0n)
                              
What:              Unsanctioned Vintage Event
                      (Decklists required)
                      Swiss rounds with cut to top 8

Where:             The Players Guild
                       Columbia Mall
                       225 Columbia Mall Drive
                       Bloomsburg, PA 17815
                       (570) 640-6408

Fees:                30 dollar entry fee      
                       (10 play test allowed for free, an additional five can be utilized at 1 dollar each)
                    
Prize Support: (Please keep in mind that this prize structure is based on 32 participants and will be scaled to reflect more or less participants.)      

First:  300 in store credit and free entry to NYSE III
Second: 150 in store credit
Third: 75 in store credit
Fourth: 75 in store credit
Fifth: 25 in store credit
Sixth: 25 in store credit
Seventh: 25 in store credit
Eighth: 25 in store credit
                                                                          
NOTE: Please everyone, show your support to the vintage community and The Players Guild,  come out and be part of another great event. We understand that dates our hard to accommodate everyone, but it is what it is, and we apologize to those who will be unable to attend.

As always, I will be set up on location as a dealer for all your buying, selling, and bartering needs.
 
Hope to see our previous champs and all challengers there!!!

Everyone! Do your best to attend as always, come for the awesome occasion, or attend your very first event in Bloomsburg, PA! And as always....

VINTAGE PLAYERS BE HERE!!!

 25 
 on: March 21, 2016, 04:51:26 pm 
Started by xouman - Last post by xouman
So to play this optimally you want your average CMC to be as high as possible to ensure you draw an extra card, or get a good burn spell every turn.  Your opponent is always going to bin 0 CMCs.  Spirit Guides, Gush, Force, Chewer and any other card with an alternative mode seems good with it.

In general, it seems like an interesting card, and I commend anyone who finds a way to make it work.

Don't forget delve spells. In fact that does not ensure lot of direct damage, but a good amount of extra cards. Easier said than done, I don't really expect this to be played, but it's really interesting. I would be happy if half my top draws go to my hand (spells) and half go to grave (lands), because I'll be keeping the quality.

15 years ago (before internet ruined my life) I had a beautiful Pyromancy deck. It started with mana flare, pyroclasm, aether flash, and then I filled it with big fatties. One day I discovered Pyromancy and fell in love: fry all creatures in play until I could play pyromancy and finish opponent in a couple of turns. I wonder if I could find a place for pyromancy nowadays, haven't thought about that card for years.

 26 
 on: March 21, 2016, 02:34:39 pm 
Started by Krieg - Last post by Krieg
Deck lists are up

 27 
 on: March 21, 2016, 02:33:34 pm 
Started by Krieg - Last post by Krieg
Many thanks to the 17 of you who attended.
(Next up for us will be
Staples Legacy GPT for Columbus on 4/10/16, and Unsanctioned Vintage on 4/17/2016)

This is the who got what post with meta and decklists to follow at the bottom.
(Apologies in advance if I mistyped anything)

Location: Knight Ware Inc. Studio City, CA.
Play Test Vintage
Date:       March 20, 2016
Format: Vintage
Players:  17

1st   Justin Franks  [TPS] got $80 in Store Credit
2nd   Gerald Rhoads  [Chromium Blade] got $60 in Store Credit
3rd   Mike Kravitz  [Mentor Control] got $40 in Store Credit
4th   Scott Fielder  [UWR Mentor] got $40 in Store Credit
5th   Jack Colwell  [Chromium Blade] got $20 in Store Credit
6th   Tristan de Liege  [BUG Delver] got $20 in Store Credit

The Rest:
7th UBR Control
8th TPS
9th UW Landstill
10th UW Landstill
11th 4c Mentor
12th Rainbow City Vault
13th Eldrazi
14th Oath
15th URw Delver
16th MUD
17th Oath

Decklists:

  1st   Justin Franks  [TPS]                     
  Main Deck
2   Flooded Strand
4   Polluted Delta
1   Scrubland
1   Tolarian Academy
1   Tundra
3   Underground Sea
Land         ( 12)

1   Ancestral Recall
1   Black Lotus
1   Brainstorm
1   Cabal Ritual
3   Cabal Therapy
4   Dark Petition
4   Dark Ritual
2   Defense Grid
1   Demonic Tutor
4   Duress
4   Gitaxian Probe
2   Hurkyl's Recall
1   Lotus Petal
1   Mana Crypt
1   Mana Vault
1   Mox Emerald
1   Mox Jet
1   Mox Pearl
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Necropotence
1   Ponder
3   Preordain
1   Sol Ring
1   Tendrils of Agony
1   Time Walk
1   Timetwister
1   Vampiric Tutor
1   Yawgmoth's Bargain
1   Yawgmoth's Will
Other        ( 48)
qty: 60

  Sideboard
3   Ancient Tomb
1   Chain of Vapor
2   Hurkyl's Recall
2   Monastery Mentor
4   Serenity
2   Tormod's Crypt
1   Tundra
Sideboard    ( 15)


  2nd   Gerald Rhoads  [Chromium Blade]         
  Main Deck
2   Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
1   Notion Thief
2   Snapcaster Mage
1   Sphinx of the Steel Wind
3   Stoneforge Mystic
2   True-Name Nemesis
Creature     ( 11)

3   Flooded Strand
2   Island
1   Library Of Alexandria
2   Polluted Delta
1   Scrubland
1   Tolarian Academy
3   Tundra
2   Underground Sea
Land         ( 15)

1   Ancestral Recall
1   Batterskull
1   Black Lotus
1   Brainstorm
1   Demonic Tutor
4   Force Of Will
1   Mana Crypt
2   Mana Leak
4   Mental Misstep
1   Mox Emerald
1   Mox Jet
1   Mox Pearl
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Ponder
1   Sol Ring
2   Spell Pierce
1   Sword of Fire and Ice
3   Swords To Plowshares
2   Thoughtseize
1   Time Walk
1   Tinker
1   Vampiric Tutor
Other        ( 34)
qty: 60

  Sideboard
1   Dread Of Night
2   Mystic Remora
1   Plains
2   Rest in Peace
2   Serenity
2   Steel Sabotage
1   Supreme Verdict
1   Swords To Plowshares
1   Tormod's Crypt
2   Yixlid Jailer
Sideboard    ( 15)


  3rd   Mike Kravitz  [Mentor Control]           
  Main Deck
3   Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
4   Monastery Mentor
Creature     (  7)

4   Flooded Strand
2   Island
2   Misty Rainforest
1   Polluted Delta
3   Tundra
2   Underground Sea
Land         ( 14)

1   Ancestral Recall
1   Black Lotus
1   Brainstorm
1   Demonic Tutor
1   Dig Through Time
3   Flusterstorm
4   Force Of Will
3   Gush
2   Hurkyl's Recall
1   Mana Crypt
3   Mental Misstep
1   Mox Emerald
1   Mox Jet
1   Mox Pearl
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Ponder
2   Preordain
2   Sensei's Divining Top
1   Sol Ring
2   Swords To Plowshares
2   Thoughtseize
1   Time Walk
1   Treasure Cruise
1   Vampiric Tutor
Other        ( 39)
qty: 60

  Sideboard
2   Containment Priest
2   Disenchant
1   Grafdigger's Cage
1   Mindbreak Trap
3   Rest in Peace
1   Snuff Out
1   Steel Sabotage
2   Swords To Plowshares
1   Thoughtseize
1   Toxic Deluge
Sideboard    ( 15)


  4th   Scott Fielder  [UWR Mentor]             
  Main Deck
1   Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
2   Jori En, Ruin Diver
4   Monastery Mentor
2   Snapcaster Mage
Creature     (  9)

1   Cavern of Souls
1   Island
3   Misty Rainforest
4   Scalding Tarn
3   Tundra
3   Volcanic Island
Land         ( 15)

1   Dack Fayden
1   Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Planeswalker (  2)

1   Ancestral Recall
1   Black Lotus
1   Brainstorm
1   Dig Through Time
1   Engineered Explosives
3   Flusterstorm
4   Force Of Will
4   Gush
1   Lightning Bolt
1   Lotus Petal
4   Mental Misstep
1   Mox Pearl
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Ponder
2   Sensei's Divining Top
1   Sol Ring
1   Spell Snare
2   Swords To Plowshares
1   Time Walk
1   Treasure Cruise
Other        ( 34)
qty: 60

  Sideboard
3   Containment Priest
1   Hurkyl's Recall
2   Ingot Chewer
4   Leyline of the Void
1   Mindbreak Trap
1   Mountain
1   Sudden Shock
2   Wear // Tear
Sideboard    ( 15)



 28 
 on: March 21, 2016, 02:33:05 pm 
Started by xouman - Last post by vaughnbros
So to play this optimally you want your average CMC to be as high as possible to ensure you draw an extra card, or get a good burn spell every turn.  Your opponent is always going to bin 0 CMCs.  Spirit Guides, Gush, Force, Chewer and any other card with an alternative mode seems good with it.

In general, it seems like an interesting card, and I commend anyone who finds a way to make it work.

 29 
 on: March 21, 2016, 02:26:25 pm 
Started by gkraigher - Last post by vaughnbros
I thought this was the new NYSE playmat for a second.

It should be the last place trophy. 

Now that's a prize I'd be willing to fight for.

Have to avoid those Byes.

 30 
 on: March 21, 2016, 02:04:12 pm 
Started by Comic Book Depot - Last post by Comic Book Depot
We are now going to start all my Sunday Vintage events at noon. Store will now open at 11:00am on Vintage Sundays.

You guys asked for it and now you got it. Earlier start time.


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