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« on: October 30, 2009, 05:30:15 pm » |
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I should confess, I'm still only 70% done building the Teneb list in my other thread. Turns out that manabase is quite expensive. This deck will be complete as soon as a few orders arrive (except for Taiga and Wooded Foothills, which are really incidental improvements).
General (1) Radha, Heir to Keld
Artifacts (10) Akroma's Memorial Armillary Sphere Eldrazi Monument Explorer's Scope Gruul War Plow Mage Slayer Sensei's Divining Top Vedalken Orrery Sol Ring Sword of Fire and Ice
Artifact Creatures (2) Duplicant Solemn Simulacrum
Creatures (33) Akroma, Angel of Fury Arashi, the Sky Asunder Bloodbraid Elf Boartusk Liege Borborygmos Deus of Calamity Ingot Chewer Krosan Tusker Magus of the Moon Nissa's Chosen Oracle of Mul Daya Rockslide Elemental Sawback Manticore Shivan Wurm Sparkcaster Squee Stonebrow, Krosan Hero Taurean Mauler Ulasht, the Hate Seed Vigor Vithian Renegades Wilderness Elemental Apocalypse Hydra Dragon Broodmother Eternal Witness Flameblast Dragon Genesis Hellkite Charger Homura, Human Ascendant Jaya Ballard, Task Mage Vexing Shusher Woodfall Primus Yavimaya Elder
Sorceries (9) Decimate Explosive Vegetation Harmonize Hull Breach Kodama's Reach Shattering Spree Tooth and Nail Primal Command Regrowth
Instants (6) Ancient Grudge Branching Bolt Krosan Grip Simoon Violent Outburst Artifact Mutation
Enchantments (6) Blood Moon Fires of Yamivaya Greater Good Sylvan Library Abundance Survival of the Fittest
Planeswalkers (4) Nissa Revane Sarkan Vol Chandra Ablaze Garruk Wildspeaker
Non-Basic Lands (5) *=will replace a basic land in the future Mosswort Bridge Grove of the Burnwillows Spinerock Knoll Fire-Lit Thicket Stomping Ground Taiga* Wooded Foothills*
Basic Lands (24) Forest x12 Mountain x12
The deck plays very differently from what I'm used to, which is a good thing. Having Radha as a general means that I'll always have acceleration available on turn three, which means earlier and more consistent Garruks, Oracles, and Bloodbraid Elves, etc.. Probably the worst card in the deck is Sparkcaster, though it has synergy with Bloodbraid Elf.
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Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 06:43:22 pm » |
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Umm... I think Oran-Rief, the Vastwood deserves a slot over Forest #12? Right? Does Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle? I'm not sure how many tap-lands I want, since hitting Radha on turn two is pretty important.
Edit: Kiki-Jiki >>> Sparkcaster. Don't know how I missed that. Sure, it doesn't bounce Bloodbraid for re-use, but it does copy Witness, Elder, Simulacrum, not to mention Primus or Deus etc.. I think that's much better general utility.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 08:53:12 am » |
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Got in a few games last night against what was Zur, and is now Mereike, and Radha held her own. We played with planechase, and hit Feeding Ground once (I won that game), which enabled a four mana Primal Command into a two mana Bloodbraid Elf, sweet. Unfortunately I choose to bounce his Propaganda to swing in with my three dragons (from Shiv, obviously), which made the Hull Breach I cascaded into a bust (it killed his Skullclamp at least).
A few cards that have been underwhelming: Rockslide Elemental Sawback Manticore Explorer's Scope Mage Slayer (Really only good with Deus of Calamity, otherwise the additional damage is underwhelming. It's a non-bo with Akroma's Memorial, too.)
And a slightly longer list of stuff I think can be worked in: Master of the Wild Hunt Umezawa's Jitte Great Sable Stag Chameleon Colossus* Kamahl, Fist of Krosa* Kamahl, Pit Fighter* Tahngarth, Talruum Hero* Kumano, Master Yamabushi* Beastmaster Ascension*
The starred cards I am less sure about. The additional legends play less well with Kiki-Jiki, but the red ones offer recurring removal, and the green Kamahl can end games (either by sniping lands, or overrunning). As I've mentioned previously, I do plan to upgrade a Forest and Mountain into a Wooded Foothills and Taiga at some point.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 10:11:42 am » |
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Got a pair of games in against Mereike last night, though without Planes.
I have made the swaps: Explorer's Scope -> Jitte Mage Slayer -> Beastmaster Ascension
And have settled on another pair of changes: Rockslide Elemental -> Great Sable Stag Sawback Manticore -> Master of the Wild Hunt
Plus I picked up a Judge Wooded Foothills to go in the deck. Still need a Taiga though.
In one game I fanned out double mountain, Stomping Ground, Sylvan Library, Garruk, Sarkan. On the draw I made Top off a mountain. Then I drew a Forest to make Radha pain-free. T3 was Garruk and Sylvan, drawing Nissa. T4 I played Sarkan and stole Mereike, who stole herself so that she was perma-mine. Sarkan died to a clamped up Shadowmage infiltrator, but the damage was done.
The next game my opponent had a Necro without blockers, so I commenced the beatings. I had woodfall primus to deal with his tutored up No Mercy, and then he tutored up Jitte (he had bitterblossom to make fae). He used Relic of Progenitus to keep Greater Good + Woodfall Primus from killing Jitte during combat, but the six cards I drew dumped Ancient grudge into my graveyard post-Relic, which got countered, but I had also drawn Artifact Mutation. GG.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 10:47:49 am » |
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There's a Rhys deck in my area that runs Beastmaster Ascension. Its pretty nutty.
I think the changes you made were solid, though I tend to prefer Loxodon Warhammer over Jitte in this format.
EDIT: How have you liked Sarkan?
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 11:28:48 am » |
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There's a Rhys deck in my area that runs Beastmaster Ascension. Its pretty nutty.
I think the changes you made were solid, though I tend to prefer Loxodon Warhammer over Jitte in this format.
EDIT: How have you liked Sarkan?
I haven't gotten Ascension active yet, but I'm sure it ends games. I prefer Jitte because it kills X/1s, like Mereike.... Lifegain isn't a huge issue and I have things like Gruul War Plow, Homura, Monument + Memorial to give trample/evasion. Sarkan has been pretty sweet. I liked it better when I thought it gave +1/+1 counters, and not just a pump, but I suppose that would make it too good. A second Fires of Yamivaya is cool, stealing things is cool (esp with Greater Good in a long game), and pumping out a horde (roost) of dragons is cool, though I haven't done that yet. This deck is a blast to play, mostly because you can always play your spells, thanks to the accel available in Radha. I only rarely swing on T3, and even then it may be to get mana for Ancient Grudge on a Sol Ring, or to cycle Krosan Tusker etc.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2009, 12:08:35 pm » |
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Made some more changes, generally I think for the better.
General (1) Radha, Heir to Keld
Artifacts (10) Akroma's Memorial Armillary Sphere Eldrazi Monument Gruul War Plow Sensei's Divining Top Vedalken Orrery Sol Ring Sword of Fire and Ice Umezawa's Jitte Tenza, Godo's Maul
Artifact Creatures (2) Duplicant Solemn Simulacrum
Creatures (34) Akroma, Angel of Fury Arashi, the Sky Asunder Bloodbraid Elf Boartusk Liege Deus of Calamity Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Krosan Tusker Magus of the Moon Nissa's Chosen Oracle of Mul Daya Kamahl, Pit Fighter Master of the Wild Hunt Jiwari, the Earth Aflame Acidic Slime Kumano, Master Yamabushi Glissa, Sunseeker Tahngarth, Talruum Hero Great Sable Stag Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Squee Stonebrow, Krosan Hero Ulasht, the Hate Seed Vigor Apocalypse Hydra Dragon Broodmother Eternal Witness Flameblast Dragon Genesis Hellkite Charger Homura, Human Ascendant Jaya Ballard, Task Mage Vexing Shusher Woodfall Primus Yavimaya Elder
Sorceries (8) Decimate Explosive Vegetation Harmonize Hull Breach Kodama's Reach Shattering Spree Primal Command Regrowth
Instants (5) Naturalize Branching Bolt Krosan Grip Violent Outburst Artifact Mutation
Enchantments (7) Blood Moon Fires of Yamivaya Greater Good Sylvan Library Abundance Survival of the Fittest Beastmaster Ascension
Planeswalkers (4) Nissa Revane Sarkan Vol Chandra Ablaze Garruk Wildspeaker
Non-Basic Lands (9) Mosswort Bridge Grove of the Burnwillows Spinerock Knoll Fire-Lit Thicket Stomping Ground Taiga Wooded Foothills Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
Basic Lands (20) Forest x9 Mountain x11
This continues to be a fun deck to play, with a surprising number of interesting decisions for RG. It's also straightforward enough that I lent it to a college-age kid who'd never played Magic before, and he was able to hold his own in a four-player game. Tenza, Godo's Maul is in there because I stumbled across a foil one. What can I say?
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 06:19:21 pm » |
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Gruul War Plow, Nissa Revane and Nissa's Chosen have been bad lately. I also want to add another Mountain (had mana troubles today for the first time since I've played the deck.
Which of the following are best? Vicious Shadows Rage Reflection Stalking Vengeance Mind's Eye Ohran Viper Deadly Recluse or Thornweald Archer Sakura-Tribe Elder
Or something else?
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 11:02:35 pm » |
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Radha needs an update, spurred largely because I've only just realized the M10 duals exist. Rootbound Crag seems excellent here, and it prompted me to find Nimbus Maze and Horizon Canopy as well for my Numot and Teneb decks (in addition to Glacial Fortress/Sunpetal Grove).
Here's a proposal for a round of changes (in - out): Rootbound Crag - Forest Forgotten Cave - Mountain Slippery Karst - Forest Smoldering Crater - Vedalken Orrery Tranquil Thicket - Stonebrow, Krosan Hero Strip Mine - Krosan Grip Life from the Loam - Gruul War Plow Rings of Brighthearth - Vigor
There are several cards in here that work well with Rings (including making Nissa slightly better, by potentially doubling the lifegain). The land package gives me a much improved late game draw engine, and net adds lands to counteract some of the ETBT-ness of these. If I do still end up cutting Nissa/Chosen I think Ohran Viper and Rampaging Baloths are first in line (unless Worldwake contains something tasty). Comments as always are welcome.
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Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 01:17:45 pm » |
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Recommend Jolrael, Empress of Beasts as Wrath protection.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 08:21:01 pm » |
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It has again been awhile, and Radha has undergone some changes that I think are big improvements.
General (1) Radha, Heir to Keld
Artifacts (10) Akroma's Memorial Armillary Sphere Dreamstone Hedron Emerald Medallion Rings of Brighthearth Sensei's Divining Top Sol Ring Sword of Fire and Ice Tenza, Godo's Maul Umezawa's Jitte
Artifact Creatures (2) Duplicant Solemn Simulacrum
Creatures (34) Acidic Slime Akroma, Angel of Fury Arashi, the Sky Asunder Artisan of Kozilek Bloodbraid Elf Boartusk Liege Dragon Broodmother Dragonmaster Outcast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Eternal Witness Genesis Glissa Sunseeker Hellkite Charger Homura, Human Ascendant Jaya Ballard, Task Mage Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Kamahl, Pit Fighter Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Krosan Tusker It That Betrays Magus of the Moon Master of the Wild Hunt Ohran Viper Oracle of Mul Daya Rampaging Baloths Squee, Goblin Nabob Terastodon Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Vengevine Vexing Shusher Woodfall Primus Yavimaya Elder
Sorceries (7) Explosive Vegetation Harmonize Hull Breach Kodama's Reach Primal Command Regrowth Life from the Loam
Instants (5) Momentous Fall Punishing Fire Realms Uncharted Summoning Trap Violent Outburst
Enchantments (6) Lurking Predators Defense of the Heart Greater Good Sylvan Library Abundance Survival of the Fittest
Planeswalkers (3) Sarkan Vol Chandra Ablaze Garruk Wildspeaker
Non-Basic Lands (17) Mosswort Bridge Grove of the Burnwillows Spinerock Knoll Fire-Lit Thicket Stomping Ground Taiga Wooded Foothills Gaea's Cradle Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Rootbound Crag Raging Ravine Blasted Landscape Smoldering Crater Slippery Karst Tranquil Thicket Forgotten Cave
Basic Lands (15, the mountain count is a little high, since I just took out Valakut) Forest x5 Mountain x10
It that Betrays was not originally meant for this deck (but for Numot, where Jhoira will be suspending many an Eldrazi), but it seems to decently support the other Eldrazi in my list (the big three, plus Artisan of Kozilek). Also, I am thinking of swapping Umezawa's Jitte for a Basilisk Collar, which I think will better enable Radha to keep swinging when the board becomes cluttered. This latest update has removed Tahngarth and Kumano, which would have worked better with Basilisk Collar, but I really think they deserve to be out. Both Collar and Jitte are better than Godo's Maul, but I'm keeping that because it's tailor made for Radha (well, for Tenza).
I really love that the cascades from Violent Outburst and Bloodbraid Elf are tightly controlled at this point. Outburst breaks down as: 2x removal, 5x card advantage, Jitte, 4x mana development, and Shusher. While Bloodbraid hits (besides Outburst): 2x removal, 8x card advantage, all three pieces of equipment, 7x mana development, 2x anti-blue, Squee and Magus. Squee is of course the biggest blank, unless it's Outcast before I have the requisite lands, or Magus when crucial non-basics are out (especially hideaways or a big Cradle).
This is by far my favorite EDH deck, and is constantly a blast to play. It's so surprising to me how versatile this deck is, and I am especially enamored of the Loam engine, where cycling works great with Radha's attack mana trigger (except for Thicket, which her tap ability can pay for), as well as the creature recursion (Genesis, Squee, Vengevine, Eternal Witness, Artisan). It is unfortunate when one of the big three's Gaea's Blessing trigger.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 06:56:54 pm » |
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Was able to pick up some foils for Radha, as well as a Library that will be housed with her when I'm not using it for Vintage.
Here are the upgrades I'm considering currently:
IN - OUT Regal Force - Chandra Ablaze Cultivate - Magus of the Moon Primeval Titan - Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Cloudstone Curio - Vengevine
Regal Force seems like a much better card-drawer than Ablaze, especially considering Ablaze's ultimate is pretty horrible in the deck currently. It can also be tutored for with Survival. Cultivate is a much better card to cascade into than Magus, especially since the deck is increasingly dependent on non-basics. Magus also doesn't play well with the new Primeval Titan, who should almost always fetch the two hideaways first. Titan is ridiculous. Kamahl never really hit play, sniping lands was a pipe-dream and the overrun effect isn't that great without a dedicated token theme. Cloudstone Curio - combos mostly with Bloodbraid Elf and Eternal Witness, but also with the Regal Force and Titan I plan to add, as well as the Eldrazi titans and artisan. Acidic Slime and Woodfall Primus give me a bit more removal. Vengevine is efficient, and pitches to Survival in a pinch, but it's really just a dumb animal.
Edit: Clearly spoke too soon, since a creature-Survival was just spoiled this morning. Now I need to find another under-performer to take out, 'cause that's obviously going in.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2010, 10:08:49 pm » |
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I should confess, I'm still only 70% done building the Teneb list in my other thread. Turns out that manabase is quite expensive. This deck will be complete as soon as a few orders arrive (except for Taiga and Wooded Foothills, which are really incidental improvements).
The deck plays very differently from what I'm used to, which is a good thing. Having Radha as a general means that I'll always have acceleration available on turn three, which means earlier and more consistent Garruks, Oracles, and Bloodbraid Elves, etc.. Probably the worst card in the deck is Sparkcaster, though it has synergy with Bloodbraid Elf.
Am I being dense, or does Radha not help casting creatures or planeswalkers unless you're using her second ability, which is worse than Llanowar Elf, considering her cost?
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 05:35:24 am » |
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Was able to pick up some foils for Radha, as well as a Library that will be housed with her when I'm not using it for Vintage.
Here are the upgrades I'm considering currently:
IN - OUT Regal Force - Chandra Ablaze Cultivate - Magus of the Moon Primeval Titan - Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Cloudstone Curio - Vengevine
Regal Force seems like a much better card-drawer than Ablaze, especially considering Ablaze's ultimate is pretty horrible in the deck currently. It can also be tutored for with Survival. Cultivate is a much better card to cascade into than Magus, especially since the deck is increasingly dependent on non-basics. Magus also doesn't play well with the new Primeval Titan, who should almost always fetch the two hideaways first. Titan is ridiculous. Kamahl never really hit play, sniping lands was a pipe-dream and the overrun effect isn't that great without a dedicated token theme. Cloudstone Curio - combos mostly with Bloodbraid Elf and Eternal Witness, but also with the Regal Force and Titan I plan to add, as well as the Eldrazi titans and artisan. Acidic Slime and Woodfall Primus give me a bit more removal. Vengevine is efficient, and pitches to Survival in a pinch, but it's really just a dumb animal.
Edit: Clearly spoke too soon, since a creature-Survival was just spoiled this morning. Now I need to find another under-performer to take out, 'cause that's obviously going in.
Library is banned. I know, right? I would so play the hell out of mine, too.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 07:34:49 am » |
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I should confess, I'm still only 70% done building the Teneb list in my other thread. Turns out that manabase is quite expensive. This deck will be complete as soon as a few orders arrive (except for Taiga and Wooded Foothills, which are really incidental improvements).
The deck plays very differently from what I'm used to, which is a good thing. Having Radha as a general means that I'll always have acceleration available on turn three, which means earlier and more consistent Garruks, Oracles, and Bloodbraid Elves, etc.. Probably the worst card in the deck is Sparkcaster, though it has synergy with Bloodbraid Elf.
Am I being dense, or does Radha not help casting creatures or planeswalkers unless you're using her second ability, which is worse than Llanowar Elf, considering her cost? No, that's true. However, I think it's too far to say she's worse than Llanowar Elf. She's versatile, getting in there quickly, or accelerating me to 4 on turn 3. Also, she's always available from the command zone, so I'm not really spending a card on ramping (as I would be with Llanowar). Having a cheap accelerator always available in the early game is very nice, because it smooths out my mana. Virtually guarantees that I'll have the three mana necessary to play Realms Uncharted, or Kodama's Reach (or soon, Cultivate), or play and activate (through combat) an Armillary Sphere. Thereafter I won't have to use her tap ability unless I need to. Having her at CMC2 means I can skip the RG talisman and signet, and get up to the better ramp spells. Was able to pick up some foils for Radha, as well as a Library that will be housed with her when I'm not using it for Vintage.
Here are the upgrades I'm considering currently:
IN - OUT Regal Force - Chandra Ablaze Cultivate - Magus of the Moon Primeval Titan - Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Cloudstone Curio - Vengevine
Regal Force seems like a much better card-drawer than Ablaze, especially considering Ablaze's ultimate is pretty horrible in the deck currently. It can also be tutored for with Survival. Cultivate is a much better card to cascade into than Magus, especially since the deck is increasingly dependent on non-basics. Magus also doesn't play well with the new Primeval Titan, who should almost always fetch the two hideaways first. Titan is ridiculous. Kamahl never really hit play, sniping lands was a pipe-dream and the overrun effect isn't that great without a dedicated token theme. Cloudstone Curio - combos mostly with Bloodbraid Elf and Eternal Witness, but also with the Regal Force and Titan I plan to add, as well as the Eldrazi titans and artisan. Acidic Slime and Woodfall Primus give me a bit more removal. Vengevine is efficient, and pitches to Survival in a pinch, but it's really just a dumb animal.
Edit: Clearly spoke too soon, since a creature-Survival was just spoiled this morning. Now I need to find another under-performer to take out, 'cause that's obviously going in.
Library is banned. I know, right? I would so play the hell out of mine, too. That sucks so hard. Can we ban cards by color? (i.e. Library in decks with blue.) Because I don't think it's unbalanced in this deck, which typically dumps its hand to ramp/play threats. I guess that frees up a spot, though the spot should probably just go to another basic forest.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 05:26:46 pm » |
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So I will shortly be getting a copy of FTV:Relics, which contains a copy of Mox Diamond. I currently own Mox Diamond, and don't have a particular place to house it. Should I add Mox Diamond to my list? Pros: -Slight Mana Fixing, which is nice since I do run a pretty high amount of basic lands (and non-basics that only make  or  ). -Acceleration on Turn 1 into Radha. -I already run Life from the Loam as an engine of the deck. Cons: -Bad topdeck at pretty much all times. -No artifact theme in the deck. -Artifact destruction becomes land destruction, to some small extent. -May make me a target (with turn 1 Radha) the few times where it's maximally useful.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 03:00:49 pm » |
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Here's a full update: GeneralRadha, Heir to Keld ArtifactsAkroma's Memorial Armillary Sphere Dreamstone Hedron Emerald Medallion Rings of Brighthearth Sensei's Divining Top Sol Ring Sword of Fire and Ice Tenza, Godo's Maul Umezawa's JitteDuplicant Solemn SimulacrumNim Deathmantle Sword of Feast and Famine Sword of Light and Shadow Sword of Vengeance Cloudstone Curio Mox Diamond Minion Reflector Mimic Vat Steel Hellkite Sundering TitanCreaturesAcidic Slime Akroma, Angel of Fury Arashi, the Sky AsunderArtisan of Kozilek Bloodbraid Elf Boartusk LiegeDragon Broodmother Dragonmaster Outcast Emrakul, the Aeons TornEternal Witness Genesis Glissa Sunseeker Hellkite Charger Homura, Human AscendantJaya Ballard, Task Mage Kamahl, Fist of Krosa Kamahl, Pit Fighter Kazuul, Tyrant of the CliffsKiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Krosan Tusker It That Betrays Magus of the MoonMaster of the Wild Hunt Ohran Viper Oracle of Mul Daya Rampaging BalothsSquee, Goblin Nabob Terastodon Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre VengevineVexing Shusher Woodfall Primus Yavimaya Elder Fauna Shaman Godo, Bandit Warlord Regal ForceSorceriesExplosive Vegetation Harmonize Hull Breach Kodama's Reach Primal Command Regrowth Life from the Loam Cultivate Genesis Wave Green Sun's Zenith Natural Order Praetor's Counsel Restock Skyshroud ClaimInstantsMomentous Fall Punishing Fire Realms UnchartedSummoning Trap Violent OutburstEnchantmentsLurking Predators Defense of the Heart Greater Good Sylvan Library Abundance Survival of the Fittest Sneak AttackPlaneswalkersSarkan Vol Chandra AblazeGarruk Wildspeaker Chandra NalaarLandsMosswort Bridge Grove of the Burnwillows Spinerock Knoll Fire-Lit Thicket Stomping Ground Taiga Wooded Foothills Gaea's Cradle Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers Oran-Rief, the VastwoodRootbound Crag Raging Ravine Blasted Landscape Smoldering Crater Slippery Karst Tranquil Thicket Forgotten Cave Forest x5 Mountain x10Forest x8 Mountain x9The changes above reflect an intentionally increased emphasis on recursion (through Mimic Vat, Nim Deathmantle, Restock and Praetor's Counsel), Voltron-esque tactics (three new Swords, plus Godo to find one of them, or 'Fire and Ice'), and better tutoring (Fauna Shaman, Green Sun's Zenith, Natural Order). More basics are present, with better balance of Forests and Mountains, to support the additional ramp spells (Forests for Skyshroud Claim in particular). Minion Reflector is the last card in at this point, along with Genesis Wave. Dryad Arbor is clamoring to get in, because every time I cascade into Green Sun's Zenith with no  CMC targets to get I die a little inside. Also, as an aside, you may be wondering 'why is Primeval Titan not in here?' It's only partially because of the high price Prime Time is currently commanding, since I freely admit I don't own all of what's made the list yet. And it's only partially because it makes such an obvious Bribery target for opponents, since of course I still have one Eldrazi Titan in my list, whose size and attack trigger are both at least as wrecking. Partially what I want to avoid is a situation where the whole deck is concentrated on one card. Got seven mana and Green Sun's Zenith? Prime Time. Turn three with Radha out and Natural Order? Prime Time. Survival or Fauna Shaman online with sufficient mana? Prime Time. I play EDH because the highlander nature and size of decks support games with variety. Obviously cards like the tutors above help improve consistency throughout games, just like my general Radha improves consistency in early game mana, but I don't want there to be just one answer to every question.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2011, 10:12:09 am » |
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Since I self-imposed some rules on my Commander decks (a different thread in this forum) I relaxed my anti-Prime Time stance a little, and he's in. Karn is also in because why not? Radha is my favorite, so she gets these toys to play with.
I played a couple of games last night starting off with Radha. In the first one-vs-one game I got a flawless victory, as my opponent had zero permanents in play at the end of the game. Terastodon (NOrdered up, would have been Prime Time for Giggles but I drew it the same turn I cast NO.) blew up some lands. Acidic Slime cleaned up the last land, and Primal Command bounced the Darksteel Ingot I couldn't otherwise destroy. Chump blocks and duplicant chewed through the 3/3 beast tokens. Pretty cool. This was against a slightly modified pre-con (Kaalia), but it wasn't all cake for me, since in the next game I never found green mana, and had to scoop it up to a turn three Kaalia that got going quick (Rune-Scarred Demon is the greatest thing ever!).
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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