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Ghoultree 7G Creature - Zombie Treefolk Ghoultree costs 1 less to cast for each creature cards in your graveyard. 10/10 Possible 10/10 fatty for 1 green mana. With more dredge decks running city and paradise, casthing this guy for 1 mana after a fat dredge and discard to bazaar could be fairly easy I would think. 4 ghasts, 4 ichorids, 4 troll, 4 imp, +++ should make hitting 7 easy enuff. What do you guys think? http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=127117&stc=1&d=1326222659 |
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 12:20:31 am » |
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This card is somewhat intriguing. Maybe an alternate win condition for Dredge? I could see some situations where this guy would be 1 cc 10/10. I could be wrong, but it's an interesting card.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 12:54:35 am » |
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Its especially nice in these newer DD mix decks with Nether Shadows, Bobs, and Vamps as well.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 02:50:09 am » |
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At least Leyline shuts this down as well. So it is still a question of a resolved Claim/Chain/Mare or not. And then you usually die anyway, right?
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 10:14:51 am » |
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This is Avator of Woe + P/T - Utility .... Nothing fancy...
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 10:50:04 am » |
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This is Avator of Woe + P/T - Utility .... Nothing fancy...
CMC 1 is VERY different from CMC 2. That said, I think it would need to have 18+ power before I'd bother with it. There's a reason why nobody is running DSC as their Tinker target and this suffers from the same problems. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 11:55:08 am » |
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Eh, I've been tinkering with it, and it seems like a neat little game-winner in the midst of a slow-rolling dredge cycle: dredge back golgari thug, cast him, sacrifice him, put Ghoultree on top, draw him, cast him, win. Limited usage but pretty neat.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 11:57:14 am » |
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This is Avator of Woe + P/T - Utility .... Nothing fancy...
CMC 1 is VERY different from CMC 2. That said, I think it would need to have 18+ power before I'd bother with it. There's a reason why nobody is running DSC as their Tinker target and this suffers from the same problems. If we're talking about this card from a Dredge perspective, the 7 creatures v. 10 could certainly be relevant too. If unmolested this also kills in two turns. Not sure that comparing this to Tinker->DSC is fair either. If your deck supports Tinker, good decks will have answers for it handy, postboard I think most people pull their spot removal for graveyard hate. People also don't play DSC because there are better options available. Im not sure there are better options for a gigantic fat creature for one mana in a Dredge deck, other than Dread Return->Fatty. I think if you fit this into a Dredge sideboard and an opponent stuck a Yixlid Jailer or wasted your Bazaar after you got some creatures in the yard I could see this thing blindsiding some opponents. Now, this is still pretty bad against a Leyline, and it may not be good enough |
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 04:37:23 pm » |
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This is Avator of Woe + P/T - Utility .... Nothing fancy...
CMC 1 is VERY different from CMC 2. That said, I think it would need to have 18+ power before I'd bother with it. There's a reason why nobody is running DSC as their Tinker target and this suffers from the same problems. If we're talking about this card from a Dredge perspective, the 7 creatures v. 10 could certainly be relevant too. If unmolested this also kills in two turns. Not sure that comparing this to Tinker->DSC is fair either. If your deck supports Tinker, good decks will have answers for it handy, postboard I think most people pull their spot removal for graveyard hate. People also don't play DSC because there are better options available. Im not sure there are better options for a gigantic fat creature for one mana in a Dredge deck, other than Dread Return->Fatty. I think if you fit this into a Dredge sideboard and an opponent stuck a Yixlid Jailer or wasted your Bazaar after you got some creatures in the yard I could see this thing blindsiding some opponents. Now, this is still pretty bad against a Leyline, and it may not be good enough I still believe that it's an anemic clock. Too much opportunity to "oops I win" around it, chump block, etc. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 07:02:13 pm » |
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At the very least, it gets around being hosed by yixlid jailer.
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