Pt funk

[Bastian]

Remember Matt's "PT Funk"? Well, I've been messing with a deck based around the same color scheme and I've managed a janky, yet cool deck.

2 wasteland
1 strip mine
4 underground sea EDIT:Zherbus
4 bayou
4 llanowar wastes
2 tropical island
2 city of brass
1 black lotus

3 dark ritual
4 duress
4 hymn to tourach
2 diabolic edict
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 necropotence
2 sylvan library
3 pernicious deed

4 hypnotic specter
4 phyrexian negator
4 phantom centaur
4 river boa

Initially instead of blue I had white, but the blue splash allows me to play big blue which have been a vast improvement over white spells. Necropotence and stuff like hymn may demand a lot of black but the deck can satisfy the requirements. The same applies to phantom centaur even though playing a deck with spells with costs like necro and centaur may not be advisable, I feel like the deck can handle the mana department quite well.

Of course that a deck specially designed to destroy land, or with powerful land disruption: sinkhole, void, winter orb, can really mess up the deck.

The centaur has a heavy cost at 2GG but it's pretty good! It gets around abyss and can face and survive direct confrontation with some big creatures (stacker, for example).

Overall it is, as I said, a janky, but cool deck. It's not very competitive, but I feel that with enough work and refining PERHAPS it could go beyond tier 3 status.

No SB yet. Comments apreciated.\n\n

[Razor]

I think you may have forgotten to include the following 3 cards:
Ancestral Recall
Timetwister
Time Walk

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[the phoenix]

Woah, feaky. I recently came up with a deck very similar to this one. After only a day's worth of tweaking, here's my latest version:

4x Hymn to Tourach
4x Duress
4x Hypnotic Specter
2x Phyrexian Negator
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Chainer's Edict
1x Demonic Consultations
1x Necropotence
4x Nantuko Shade

4x Hunted Wumpus

1x Ancestral Recall
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Time Walk

2x Powder Keg

1x ? ? ? ?

3x Dark Ritual
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Jet
1x Strip Mine
4x Wasteland
4x City of Brass
2x Tropical Island
4x Bayou
4x Underground Sea
3x Swamp

sideboard:
2x Powder Keg
3x Compost
4x Dystopia
2x Spinning Darkness
4x ? ? ? ? (something anti-abyss)

Wumpus is broken. Hell, it's even more broken then Noble Panther! It's a beating vs. Sligh, can hold it's own early on against a Morphling, and makes short work of sui's zombies and negators.

River Boa is good, but I chose to run Shade over it. Like any multi-coloured aggro deck, opposing Wastelands can cut off one of the splash colours. For this reason, I tried to limit green and blue's involvement in the deck as much as possible. But regardless, Shade is better against control (kills Ophidians, stands up to Morphlings, gets phat) and is at least as good against aggro (for a bit more mana it blocks and kills your opponent's creatures instead of just blocking them, it's also resiliant to burn like Boa).

I count 57 cards in your decklist, the blue splash obviously being what's missing. Twister obviously doesn't fit in the deck, though, since you run 8 discard spells.

I really wanted to add Fire/Ice in the deck (I love that card), but I figured that red would be too much. Then I realized that I had access to Fire/Ice all along, in the form of Funeral Charm. It hasn't made the cut yet, but I'm still toying with the idea.

I would run a maindeck Recoil or something similar to deal with enchantments, but my meta just doesn't call for one (read: no Abyss ).

The main difference between our two decks - I'm aiming for a solid tier 2 status.

[Bastian]

I was just searching for an old post of mine when all of the sudden I came across this one. It seems that there were two replies that I didn't read before. I feel that both replies deserve a response.

Twister CAN fit the deck. I think that it helps everyone in play equally, even if your opponent is the first to go after twisting, so it's more of a reset button. And by "reset" I'm mentioning that it helps EVERYONE. There was also a similiar discussion on Beyond Dominia about SliverKing using twister on his butter knives.

The blue splash missing is indeed for the power blue. Don't know where was I with my head.

I would have packed nantuko shade if I wasn't so fearful of sligh and if I had more black sources.

I did drop this deck sometime ago, although I just might go back to it.

[Rakso]

Actually, this sort of thing was posted on BD by John Ormerod, basically a Suicide with splashed Pernicious Deeds.

I haven't been able to find the original deck, but D'Avanzo and I nicknamed it Salad Forks (see Butter Knives).

[Zherbus]

I am convinced that deed is just a trap.

It baits black players out of the consistancy that is mono-black to attempt to add green. Congratulations, you are now vulnerable to opposing wastelands.

In my experience, I have not found any use for Deed that a cheaper artifact named Powder Keg couldn't handle.

[Bastian]

Rakso: really? I thougt it was Matt d'avanzo who came up with the original idea. Remember... Pt funk? It's very similiar to my own design.

Zherbus: perhaps you're right, but I've been packing deed in my void deck ever since it came out and I've been very happy with it:)

[Os-Vegeta]

Bastian:  I'm convinced that in T1 mono black Void is superior to a green-splashed version.  I tested my B/G Void variant against Zherbus and his mono black Void, and he won 2-1.  Strange enough, I the only match I won was the one where I didn't draw any Bayou (they got wastelanded in the other two matchups) or Deed.  I know it's always good to tinker around and try to create variants, but here mono black is optimal, where splashing green isn't that optimal...

I'd like to see your Void build, though.  Yours might be better than mine.

[Bastian]

I still remember several WW vs void matchups with zherbus and I can say that he's one of the last persons who still plays it. Perhaps his experience counted to his victory too?

Well, anyway, here's the deck:
Tainted Void

8 swamp
4 llanowar wastes
4 bayou
3 wasteland
1 strip
1 forest
2 moxes
1 lotus

4 hyppie
4 nantuko shade

3 nether void
3 pernicious deed
2 sylvan library

1 necropotence
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 yawgmoth's will

4 dark ritual
4 duress
4 hymn to tourach
4 sinkhole

SB:
3 diabolic edict
4 masticore
4 emerald charm
4 phyrexian arena

[Matt The Great]

To clear up some confusion here:

1. I am not Matt D'Avanzo. I don't think he comes here at all.

2. A while back I got fed up with pretty much every established deck out there, and decided "I'm going to play with cards I like, and to hell with everything else." It ended up being a black/green deck with a blue splash, later changed to just B/g because Wasteland was eating me alive (see Wasteland vs Zoo for an idea of the havoc wreaked). Talking in #bdchat, someone gave the deck the name "PT Funk". I've been trying to improve it ever since, as a pet project, because Goddammit, I just like B/G as a color combination.

3. At some point I posted it on BD, and as it turns out I wasn't the first to try adding green to black. As Rakso already said, John Ormerod tried Deed in a Void deck, christened Salad Forks.

4. I know that D'Avanzo had a casual black/green deck that had three Pernicious Deed and splashed blue for Time Walk, Ancestral Recall, and Fact or Fiction.

To be honest, I don't know how good my deck (see the "deck for less than $160" thread) is, because I fear/suspect that a good portion of my wins come from surprise value. Nevertheless, it remains a deck that I have a lot of fun playing.

If I were to choose something else, something established, it would be Suicide Black. @ Zherbus: the chief objective (I've already said that this is, for me, a fun deck that I would like to see become good) argument for Deed over Keg is that you can drop 'n' detonate on the same turn. Also, it's more versatile. If you can track him down, ask ETP about Vindicate in his b/w Masticore deck for comparison.

[Os-Vegeta]

Quote the chief objective (I've already said that this is, for me, a fun deck that I would like to see become good) argument for Deed over Keg is that you can drop 'n' detonate on the same turn. Also, it's more versatile.

The problem I constantly run into with Deed is not having the green mana to cast it since everyone and their grandmother runs 3-5 Strips anyomore.  I can't keep a Bayou out against 5 Strips and LD decks like Sui Black and the mirror match.  I agree that Deed is much more versatile, but with the 5 Strips LD in this format, you might not be able to get Deed out all the time.

[Matt The Great]

How many green sources are you running? I'm using 10, plus Lotus, and haven't had too tough a time.

Note that cutting down to two colors allows me 3 basic forests, which have (on occasion) proven quite valuable. More so since I cut Erhnam Djinn, which was in my first builds.

[Zherbus]

Quote Talking in #bdchat, someone gave the deck the name "PT Funk". I've been trying to improve it ever since, as a pet project, because Goddammit, I just like B/G as a color combination.

That was me.

Quote @ Zherbus: the chief objective (I've already said that this is, for me, a fun deck that I would like to see become good) argument for Deed over Keg is that you can drop 'n' detonate on the same turn. Also, it's more versatile. If you can track him down, ask ETP about Vindicate in his b/w Masticore deck for comparison.

Thats more directed at knives/suicide and void decks, not the Funk.

[Matt The Great]

Ah, ok. Yes, I definitely agree that Void and Suicide are better off mono-black. I am not a fan of decks that only splash for other colors (PT Jank, those ridiculous stompy/sligh builds)...I much more enjoy an integrated two-color deck.

And it's nice to know who came up with the name, I always forget.

Incidentally, doesn't black/green just seem like a funky color? White and blue are too "clean" and red is too...hot? But black...yes, black and green can get down.

Point the third: if Worldgorger Dragon becomes popular, I now have something to do with my three SB slots that are still housing Hidden Guerillas from back when Stacker2 was all the rage! Yippee, hooray for Worldgorger!

[jpmeyer]

Silly Rasko, I invented the name Salad Forks.

[Os-Vegeta]

Quote How many green sources are you running? I'm using 10, plus Lotus, and haven't had too tough a time.

I'm only running 5 or 6.  That's my problem there then.

[Matt The Great]

Well, if you're playing Void decks, I would agree with you about splashes not being worth it. When I said I run 10 green sources, that's an aggressive deck that has its colors more integrated than just splashing, the kind that started this thread and is also the subject of the "a deck for less than $160" thread elsewhere in this forum.

Splashes are weak in type one, but two-color decks need not be.

[Os-Vegeta]

Yeah, I agree.  If I ever would want to run Deed in my Void, I'll make sure to have colors integrated instead of just splashed.