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« on: February 17, 2003, 12:13:19 pm » |
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Hello. I have just started playing oath about a week ago and advice you could give me would be great here is the decklist.
01 Spike Weaver
01 Spike Feeder/Ravenous Baloth ?
01 Morphling
04 Force of Will
04 Counterspell
02 Mana Leak
02 Misdirection
04 Oath of Druids
02 Gaea's Blessing
04 Impulse
03 Brainstorm
02 Sylvan Library
01 Fact or Fiction
01 Regrowth
03 Powder Keg
01 Mox Pearl
01 Library Of Alexandria
01 Sol Ring
04 Tropical Island
03 Wooded Foothill
02 Mishra's Factory
01 Forest
01 Undiscovered Paradise
08 Island
02 Wasteland
01 Strip Mine
Sideboard
01 Morphling
01 Llawan, Cephalid Empress
01 Phantom Nishoba
03 Back to Basics
03 Naturalize
02 Tormod's Crypt
02 Misdirection
02 Mana Leak
Notes : Im working on getting more fetchlands and mana drains to replace the counterspells.Also i have a tight budget so i wont be getting any more power to add for a while.
Meta : More Common decks - Phid, Sligh, Pox/Sui/Knives, Zoo, Jank, Parfait, Bad Combo Decks,
Less Common decks - Mask, TnT, Academy,
I hope i have givin you enough info to help me out.
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Spizzard
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2003, 01:16:55 pm » |
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Looks a lot like some semi powered, unpowered oath decks I have seen. Looks pretty good. I suggest you add 1 woodripper in the sideboard for your tnt, mask matchup. I think it would help a lot. I suggest:
-1 Mana Leak +1 Woodripper
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Kerzkid11
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2003, 01:39:12 pm » |
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Oath really relies on abusing timewalk and ancestral recall, usually casting upwards of 3 or 4 times a game. This leads to extreme brokenness of the deck. With no power the deck is really taking a big hit. Please, do all you can to get ancestral, forget about drains, recall is better.
Anyway, I never liked feeder/baloth, Ancient Hydra is a great card in that slot beacuse it can attack for 5 at a key time, it burns things (or fireblasts opponent), and it kills itself for easy oathing in the future turns. Its really great in my testing.
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iceman
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2003, 01:56:55 pm » |
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KerzKid, while Oath does take a huge hit with no power, it is still one of the more established unpowered decks, and can be succesful, despite having no Ancestral Recalls. Also, the standard creature base for U/g oath is 1 Morphling, 1 Spike Weaver, and 1 Spike Feeder. While Ancient Hydra is good, it can not be hardcast if needed in 2 color Oath, and that is a HUGE drawback.
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Kerzkid11
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2003, 02:21:44 pm » |
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Well, I would play an Undiscovered paradise.
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MarkPharaoh
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2003, 02:49:20 pm » |
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But Feeder can add more counters to Weaver to fog against TnT or sack it aftering blocking a Jackal Pup and gaining 4 or even to make your Morphling absolutely huge if need be. it is also easy to cast from your hand if you draw it as it only cost 1GG while Hydra is 4R, you can't even cast it if you draw it, even if you run a Paradise it can be striped. Also Hydra just dies to burn and it's hurt by StP, with Feeder you can just sack in response to burn or an StP.
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Kerzkid11
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2003, 02:55:45 pm » |
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Well with hydra it shoots itself against burn or stp...
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airwalk
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2003, 03:14:45 pm » |
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At one point i was thinking Triskellion but i dont think iether that or the Hydra are nessesary i allready have a good match up vs sligh.
I agree with the woodripper idea i almost forgot about that guy. if i was siding him in what would i side out against tnt, Morphling?
to Kerzkid11:
i know recall/walk helps but i simply dont have the access to it. i figured oath would be the best control deck i could build for my meta with the cards available to me( and im getting sick of playing void)
what do you guys think of the Spike Feeder/Ravenous Baloth debate the Feeder adds counters but yet the Baloth is fat and hurts Sui more.
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Tristal
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2003, 03:40:24 pm » |
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It is really not an issue to run one Volcanic Island to get with Fetchlands if you want to cast Hydra. Hydra just helps so much in the control matchup, I wouldn't run Oath without it.
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j_orlove
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2003, 04:24:57 pm » |
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Quote I agree with the woodripper idea i almost forgot about that guy. if i was siding him in what would i side out against tnt, Morphling? You'd probably want to cut feeder and morphling, and just run weaver and ripper. edit: I guess I should have made it clear that this is for SBing against TnT |
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Kerzkid11
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2003, 04:28:47 pm » |
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Ripper Main? That might be a litte much. Also you may want to take into consideration akroma, angel of wrath. She is defense and offence because she doesnt tap to attack, and shes fat and flies. Not endorsing her, just something to think about.
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MarkPharaoh
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2003, 05:03:15 pm » |
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Quote Well with hydra it shoots itself against burn or stp... Uh, why on earth would make it ping itself if it was getting burned? @Kerz: He means Woodripper in the SB, you maindeck it against decks like TnT and Mask. |
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Kerzkid11
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2003, 05:59:59 pm » |
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Wasn'y thinking, in your previous post you said
"Also Hydra just dies to burn and it's hurt by StP, with Feeder you can just sack in response to burn or an StP."
So I was just in the "burn/stp" mindset when posting, because I was thinking of your post. Simple mistake.
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