what do do against Tendrills

[Shard Phoenix]

We've been testing for a couple of days now and i seem to lose almost 75% of the games with rector-trix against tendrills.

I've tested tendrills myself and i don't see why it's such a good running machine. Everything cost lots of mana which I some how never have. The combo seems so far away some times....I think why not play rector trix it's a lot easier to finish! ofcourse I know that when a smal tendrills is played I have to combo twice...that's no problem.

My question is what to do against tendrills. I almost have accepted the fact that I have to do it with my sideboard because there just isn't enough space main deck. I thought about these cards:

- abeyance (after about 6/7 spells)
- meddling mage (calling tendrills would do the trick)
- jester's cap (a.s.a.p.)
- ali from cairo  

[MarkPharaoh]

Arcane Labortory and Pyrostatic Pillar are the best IMO anti-Storm cards.  Also, Tendrils is so much better then Rector Trix.  Random life gains hurts Trix, not to mention your combo is counterable and you need 2 parts to it.  Tendrils only needs 1 card to kill you, random life gain isn't really an issue and it's kill condition isn't counterable.

[Setnakt]

Whoa. Ali from Cairo would be soooo cool. But it only stops damage, not life loss, so it wouldn't work.

Cards like Stifle and Abeyance seem to be good choices.

Anyways, Rector-Tendrils sets up better because Tendrils is like a one card combo. It's probably why it seems that most Rector players have switched to the Tendrils kill.

Just some casual observations.

[Lord of the Goats]

i've heard that negators are really good in the tendrils mirror... although i'd much rather just go with coffin purge

[theorigamist]

Hindering Touch tech.

[Smmenen]

WTF do you mean by Tendrils?  That could be almost any combo deck? Including Rector.

Steve

[Setnakt]

It sounds like the deck being discussed here is Rector Tendrils. Though yes, it is a bit vague. But since it's in the light of discussing kill mechanisms, it sounds more like Rector Tendrils than anything else.

[Methuselahn]

True Believer.  
Solitary Confinement.  
Sphere of Resistance.
Withered Wretch

False Cure BB - Instant
Until end of turn, whenever a player gains life, that player loses 2 life for each 1 life he or she gained.
Onslaught Rare

heh, it looks fun anyway.\n\n

[Rico Suave]

Tormod's Crypt is some good.  It shuts down Rector, Will, it hurts their Timetwister recursion, and it's useful against more than just one match.

[Dave Kaplan]

met, false cure would only work if tendrils didnt kill you. if tendrils resolved to not kill you, something is very wrong to begin with

[MoreFling]

He probably means in general, but I know he got his ass kicked by a)long.dec and b)our rectorless tendrils

[Kaervek]

...which I would like you guys to refer to in the future as longer.dec

'Doing it' through a Rector is clumsy, slow, and most of all: unneeded. Add to that the fact that it's hated right out of the environment by Coffin Purge, and you should know better than to play it.

[theorigamist]

Dave, I've resolved a Tendrils for less than kill part way through a turn so I could draw a load of cards off Bargain.  It's not hard to either Wish for another Tendrils or Timetwister or something and find it again to kill with.

[Zhindel]

Quote False Cure BB - Instant
Until end of turn, whenever a player gains life, that player loses 2 life for each 1 life he or she gained.
Onslaught Rare

This should goto the rules forum, but assuming you have it in hand when the Tendrils is cast... You should let the storm copies be put on the stack, then respond with the False Cure.  They would lose 2 life per copy of Tendrils (+2 Tendrils, -4 False Cure).  But for it to work you would have to start with at least 2 more life than they do.  Some thing like you lose 2, triggers FC onto stack, they lose 2(net).  Rinse and repeat.\n\n

[mikephoen]

Stifle.

[Kaervek]

1 word replies 4L!

[Smmenen]

mikephoen returns 4L

Steve

[mikephoen]

hey all,

in all seriousness, stifle has just been amazing for me in the limited amount of t1 i've got to play recently.  i've been playing 2 in a version of hulk (though i prefer to just call it tog... not sure why, but i've never liked the name hulk for the deck.  hulk should be the name for a green deck at least!  the hulk doesnt even go 'berserk',  he just gets madder and stronger.  wolverine is the one who has the 'berserker rage'.  maybe if tog had purple pants i could see it...as usual, i digress).  where was i?  oh yeah, stifle.  love the card. love love love.  not only does it stop storm stupidity, it stops rectors, tangle wires, wastelands, kegs, and probably about 98163518293401278 other things.  

one blue mana, problem solved.

[hulk3rules]

...and what does stifle do vs cabal therapy and duress?

If you're losing vs the rector version purges and crypts are the way to go.  They are duress and therapy proof (unless you go 2nd and they take the crypt from you.)  If you're having trouble vs long.dec I've found that the deck just rolls over and dies vs null rod.

[mikephoen]

stifle is a card you can maindeck.  after board you can obviously add crypt or whatever, but stifle is a game one solution.

[Rico Suave]

Stifle is a poor game 1 solution.

Additionally, Coffin Purge through Cunning Wish becomes a game 1 card solution.

[Ferrismonk]

I think that hulk3rules said it right.  Null rod REALLY hurts any sort of storm-bases deck.  If you notice, they usually use most of the cheap artifacts they cast for mana.  Arcane lab has also been great.  

But don't forget that they can get Form of the Dragon too.  I've locked down Tendrils decks before and been wasted because I couldn't deal with storm AND the form.  (btw, that rhymes.)  

-Travis-

[Kaervek]

I play Tendrils. Cards I DON'T wanna see in game 1 include:

- Cunning Wish (since usually, this fetches a Stifle). Makes me wanna wait to go crazy till I have either a Duress of a FoW.

- Pyrostatic Pillar. If it hits play, I can't do shit about it game 1 and it makes life VERY hard for me. Winning is still possible, though.

- Null Rod. Hits play? Game.

- Chains of Meph. Ouch. I look for and resolve Necro, or die.

- Arcane Lab. Game. In game 2, I have Negators, but it's still the sux0r.

So take you pick  

[Tir]

Aura of Silence, True Believer, Meddling Mage... that's why my WW wins on occasion