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Author Topic: Mirrodin: Isochron Scepter  (Read 10358 times)
Nocturnal
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« on: September 08, 2003, 01:39:04 pm »

Artifact
Mana Cost: 2
Imprint - When Isochron Scepter comes into play, remove an instant from your hand with converted mana cost 2 or less.
2,T: [Play a copy of the imprinted instant.]

Some cards off the top of my head:
Ancestral Recall
Mana Drain
Lightning Bolt
Price of Progress\n\n

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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2003, 01:47:05 pm »

oh my.
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Vegeta2711
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2003, 01:50:17 pm »

So who's gonna be packing MD artifact hate now?  

*goes to add Rack and Ruin MD to Stacker*

Other annoying cards.
Vamp tutor
Mystical tutor
STP
Fork
Berserk
etc...'

Wow hey speaking of Fork, here a decent reason not to unrestrict. I mean with this card you could get a colorless Fork every turn and with 4 it wouldn't of been hard to draw one for intial imprint either.\n\n

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Mellow D
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2003, 01:50:50 pm »

Wow, and it has a reasonable casting cost too.  I think I can start playtesting Null Rod as a 4-of now.
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Nocturnal
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2003, 01:51:23 pm »

So does this make up for the disappointment over artifact lands?
 
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Vegeta2711
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2003, 01:54:19 pm »

So were getting this, new Mox, Thought Prision, artifact lands and god only knows what else. wow... haha.
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Jebus
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2003, 01:55:28 pm »

Hmmm...

Cunning Wish
Accumulated Knowledge
Diabolic Edict

This could be big...

Pretty strong for an uncommon. \n\n

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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2003, 01:57:27 pm »

No cunning wish, but I seriously think this for AK puts hulk over the top
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Vegeta2711
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2003, 01:57:38 pm »

Cunning wish is 3.  
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Triple_S
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2003, 01:57:39 pm »

Has this been verified anywhere?
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2003, 01:58:31 pm »

zherb just posted a pic of the card, so yeah pretty much
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Diablos8
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2003, 02:02:29 pm »

We've seen Workshop, Mask, and Bazaar's going up, but now:

Null Rod's for $20!
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mrieff
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2003, 02:05:44 pm »

    

This card is extremely powerful.
If you only think about the possibilities that this card provides.

Some more targets:

Tainted Pact/Impulse/Brainstorm
Naturalize
Artifact Mutation
Abeyance
Acc Knowlwedge
Dark Ritual/Cabal Ritual
Lim Dul's Vault
Stifle
Ebony Charm/Coffin Purge
Diabolic Edict
Fire/Ice
Extract

Note that you can also play off-color cards with it.\n\n

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2003, 02:06:28 pm »

Hmm...I totally missed the CMC of 2 or less part.
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chocolovebox
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2003, 02:11:46 pm »

Ya...off the cuff, Mystical Tutor and Vampiric Tutor spring to mind. Swords, Argivian Find and Orim's Chant in Parfait...my god people, there is no more Berlin Wall, are the fates so fickle that Parfait could finally work?

I really wish we knew exactly how Imprint worked, does the imprinted card spring to the zone it was removed from when the Imprint permanent is destroyed or does it stay RFG?\n\n

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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2003, 02:16:48 pm »

I'm not really in on the competitive deck building circle, but I think I know what I'll be playing in 5 proxy tourneys:
3 Psychatog
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Isochron Scepter
2 Intuition
3 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Merchant Scroll
3 Cunning Wish
3 Duress
1 Mind Twist
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Tropical Island
3 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea
1 Strip Mine
4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Swamp
SB: 1 Berserk
SB: 3 Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 Artifact Mutation
SB: 2 Coffin Purge
SB: 1 Plaguebearer
SB: 1 Fire/Ice
SB: 1 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 1 Vampiric Tutor
SB: 1 Blue Elemental Blast
SB: 1 Naturalize
SB: 1 Smother
SB: 1 Stifle
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Zoofields
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2003, 02:17:16 pm »

What we need now is a way to remove removed from the game cards even further from the game (that or just pack artifact hate--though it would be more fun to have a card that stole someone's Imprinted card and made their artifact useless).
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Mellow D
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2003, 02:17:49 pm »

With all the goodie artifacts coming (or supposedly coming) in this block, shouldn't Null Rod just be reprinted anyway?

Oh that's right, it's on the Reserve List.  Muahahahahahaha...

(Yes, I do know that even though it's on the reserve list, WotC could still print it anyway.).
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MoreFling
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2003, 02:24:59 pm »

bah-roken Sad
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wuaffiliate
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2003, 02:27:11 pm »

Quote from: Crater Hellion+Sep. 08 2003,14:57
Quote (Crater Hellion @ Sep. 08 2003,14:57)No cunning wish, but I seriously think this for AK puts hulk over the top
hulk is already over the top

this looks insane!
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bebe
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2003, 02:30:52 pm »

Oh goody, I can play mana drains in any mono-colored deck now.
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Bastian
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2003, 02:39:15 pm »

Just... one... word...

 

FU*K! NOW THAT'S TYPE 1 WORTHY! Imagine that with... Counterspells! And... Brainstorm! AND AND ANCESTRAL OR BURN, AND IT'S SO CHEAP, OH SO CHEAP, SO CHEAP!!!

I'm not one to usually overreact, and... *gasp* is it possible that this might get restricted...??\n\n

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2003, 02:39:24 pm »

Hmm...maybe have fun with Word of Command.  
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2003, 02:42:37 pm »

Quote from: Bastian+Sep. 08 2003,12:39
Quote (Bastian @ Sep. 08 2003,12:39)Just... one... word...

 

FU*K! NOW THAT'S TYPE 1 WORTHY! Imagine that with... Counterspells! And... Brainstorm! AND FACT OR FICTION AND ANCESTRAL OR BURN, AND IT'S SO CHEAP, OH SO CHEAP, SO CHEAP!!!

I'm not one to usually overreact, and... *gasp* is it possible that this might get restricted...??
You seemed to have missed the CMC restriction just like I did.

No super FoF.
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DigDug
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2003, 02:43:24 pm »

Quote from: chocolovebox+Sep. 08 2003,14:11
Quote (chocolovebox @ Sep. 08 2003,14:11)I really wish we knew exactly how Imprint worked, does the imprinted card spring to the zone it was removed from when the Imprint permanent is destroyed or does it stay RFG?
It will remain removed from the game.  Disenchanting it in response to the comes into play would be bad, too.  But then you could still wish for the imprinted card.
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Mellow D
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2003, 02:49:01 pm »

Have you noticed the rarity though?  This thing is uncommon!  Should be real easy to get even though they will inflate the prices initially.
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Triple_S
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2003, 02:55:00 pm »

Can't use FoF with it (since FoF is a 4 drop) but the possibilities with this thing are just insane...
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Bastian
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2003, 03:01:55 pm »

I noticed the restriction and edited the post but damn... when you have


Swords to Plowshares
Disenchant
Enlightened Tutor
Orim's Chant
Abeyance

Brainstorm
Ancestral Recall
Mystical Tutor
Mana Drain
Mana Leak
Counterspell

Diabolic Edict
Vampiric Tutor

Lightning Bolt
Price of Progress

Naturalize
Regrowth

Is it just me or is this thing br.. bro.. BROKEN?? And it's merely an UNCOMMON!\n\n

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Eastman
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« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2003, 03:04:11 pm »

Much of this set needs immediate restriction. There is no doubt that this 'Isochron Scepter' is completely degenerate.


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Let's try to nip this in the bud, eh?
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2003, 03:06:43 pm »

OMG parfait imprinting orim's chant = parfait just won a fucking game.
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