Tournament Report from Colorado (Juzam/Control) T4

[Green Knight]

On 06/22/02 Mile High Comic's held one of its semi-annual Type One tournaments. The meta-game is always very diverse here. In attendance were Stompy, Sligh, Sui-Black, Keeper, and an assortment of other deck's you only see in real life.
I got to the tournament early enough to play some test games since I was not able to play test my deck at all before the tourney and to do a little trading. I beat both decks I played against (Sligh and a modified Keeper/control deck).
There were only 48 people in attendance, which is a little low as these tournaments usually draw 64 the maximum MHC's will allow (It's a free tournament after all).  

I did not take the best notes (just life total's actually) so most of this is from memory, if I made any mistakes on the exact plays of the matches below I apologize in advance to my opponents. I also did not note Sideboard changes so left most of that out.

Match 1 vs. James Matthews (Blue Combo Artifact)
Game One:
I start with a first turn Mishra's Factory, which meets a Sword to Plowshare as soon as it swings. The next turn I play a Juzam Djinn and grin but not big enough or maybe to big 'cause he meets the StP as well. James does something I have never seen before in a Type One tournament and plays a JuJu Bobble (yes you read that right, a JuJu Bobble!, no need to counter that. The game goes on and I get a Mishra into play that starts to whittle away James life he tries to play a Grim Monolith, which meets a FoW. He plays a Mirari which seems a bit out of place, but ends up killing one of my Juzam's due to poor Mirari rules knowledge on my behalf, he casts StP on my Djinn I counter, then he paid 3 to copy the StP. In reality you must pay the cost as the spell is cast…
I do get my 4th Juzam into play and finish him off with the Factory and Djinn.
Game Two:
James got to infinite life with the aforementioned Juju Bobble and Power Artifact/Grim Monolith, I guess juju does have a purpose after all, at this point James asks me to concede. I say no thanks and I'll just deck you. The plan is going well until he casts Rocket Launcher, no problem I Mana Drain it, he Counter's I FoW he FoW's. I die to the Orc with a big gun as soon as it's my turn.  
Game Three:
I get out a quick Mishra's Factory, which beats him down to 12 and then goes farming (i.e. StP). Another Mishra makes an appearance followed by a Juzam and James dies quickly.
1-0 (2-1 games)
 
 Match 2 vs. Will Thomas (Black/White Shadow)
 Game one:
 Will is younger maybe 11 to 13 and a little annoying. I could have called him on marked sleeves because his were very played and some of them had huge wrinkles on the back of them, this would not be very sportsmanlike as he seems to enjoy the game (very casual) and probably can't afford new sleeves. So I let it slide.
 I take some damage from FoW's, Juzam Djinn's and my City of Brass, I Swords a few of his shadow guy's and he loses quickly to the Factory and Djinn.
 Game Two:
 He gets some shadow guys into play and we start trading damage 3 for me 5 for him, seems fair to me. Juzam finishes him off rather quickly.
2-0 (4-1 games)
 Will asks to play a few more games for fun, I oblige and let him win to give him a little ego boost (he doesn't need to know I was holding FoW's and Swords to plowshares for his guys…).
 
 Match 3 vs. Bob Yu (Sligh)
 Game One:
 Bob is a friend of mine and we had played a few games before the tournament started so he knew my deck fairly well.
 He opens with a first turn Goblin Raider, which gets StP'd. This is followed by a Fanatic, which beats me down to 16. I find my Mishra Factory and he knocks Bob to 16 as I counter some burn. Soon Morphling joins the fray and gets Bob to 2 with the help of Mishra's factory. Bob goes crazy and burns me to 4 I untap and finish him off.
 Game Two:
 My deck stall's, Huge! I see an early Jackal Pup, Goblin Fanatic, and Goblin Raider. A Price of Progress and Bolt do me in. Maybe I did not stall that badly, I think the game lasted about 5 turns if that.
 Game Three:
 This one is pretty quick he does some damage to me via Bolt's and Ball Lightning. I get my Juzam and start swingin'. I counter a few things to stay alive and have him down to 5 while I am at 2, I take my point going to 1, and then I draw and Bob concedes.
3-0 (6-2 games)

Match 4 Jason Schickli (Keeper)
Game One:
We have a counter war over Ancestral recall, he gets out a Sylvan Library and draws twice off it. We have another counter war over Morphling, which he wins and the shape shifter does me in.
Game Two:
I sideboard in 4 REB's and 1 Edict, out 2 StP, 1 F/I, Twister and Balance.
I get an early Juzam backed up with counter magic, we trade counters and I win. The four turn clock has hit. He plays a Sylvan and draws off it going to nine. He Balances, I FoW and hit with the Djinn. Then I Time Walk and win.
Game Three:
I manage to counter his Ancestral and drop a Mishra's Factory, I attempt to cast a Juzam which is countered. I beat him down to 8 but he win's the counter war over his Morphling he had three counters to my two. I try to find an answer, but it is too late for me and Jason takes the match.
3-1 (7-4 games)

Match 5 Mary Van Tyne (G/W Life Gain/Millstone)
Game One:
I open with a quick MF and get some beats in. I counter a StP pointed at my Mishra at some point. Mary drops a lot of enchantments and artifacts including Land Tax, Sylvan Library, Zuran Orb, Millstone, and the Bomb of them all Moat! Unfortunately I had played a Juzam right before she played the Moat and I had no counters…sad day! I ended up taking 12 points from my City's, Juzam and FoW as the next 7 turn's pass w/ me stuck like chuck. By now Mary has used Land tax to clear her entire deck of basic lands, so every card she draws is playable. Now my deck shows that it does love me and I topdeck… Morphling. Ahh life is good. Mary's Zuran Orb prolongs the inevitable a few turns.
Game Two:
SB: +1 Aura Fracture, +1 Teferi's Response, +2 Powder Keg. -1 Balance, -2 StP, -1 Edict
I counter anything even remotely threatening (i.e. Sylvan Library) and burn for two as I forgot to use the mana drain mana. I know Mary played a Zuran Orb and had a Millstone and Scroll Rack in play, but they were no match for my pair of Juzam's and a Mishra's Factory swinging at her.  
4-1 (9-4)

Match 6 Laura Mills (Sui-Black)
I insist on playing this game as I do not get to play as much as I would like, Laura tries to convince me to intentionally draw but I am not interested. She offers to play the game out for fun and points out that we are both guaranteed top eight if we draw. I agree but only if we play for Ante : ) We divvy up a Savannah Lion each and get to it.
We I.D. 4-1-1 (9-4-2) 13 points total we are both in the top eight.
Game One:
Laura plays an early Nantuko Shade and I can not stop it. I do manage to get out a Mishra's Factory we trade blows for awhile until I manage to kill the shade with a Fire/Ice when she is tapped out. I have three lands in play and a merchant scroll and demonic tutor in hand. I am desperately in need of a potty break and can not think straight at this point! I want to end this game ASAP so I decide it's best to keep swinging with the Factory vs. Casting spells. The Mishra gets her to 10 but Laura pulls a Hymn to Tourach and my hand is gone now. She also has a Hypnotic Specter and I have no hand at this point. The game goes to Laura and my Savannah Lion I have had since '94 / '95 look's a little sad.
Game Two:
Laura Vampiric Tutor's for a Necro I believe and casts it soon after, I have my Juzam/Mishra's factory team on the court. She has a Mishra of her own and can not deal with the Juzam even after drawing 12 cards over the course of the game from Necro.
Game Three:
I still have not been able to make it to the restroom and am seeing yellow, playing all of the blue dual lands is especially painful! It seemed like bad Etiquette to leave in the middle of the match though so I played on.
I Mana Drain a Necropotence and forget to use the mana, ouch! Three for me. I am getting beat down by a Mishra's Factory, manage to cast a Juzam and swing with it. He gets Edicted after one turn and I get my hand Hymned away, I do have a Fire/Ice and use it to do two to her as there are no other targets. The game goes on and I draw a lot of land and a dark Ritual, yea. Laura plays a Yawgmoth's Will and goes off on me casting a Negator and a slew of other spell's (Hymn, Duress, Necro) I can do nothing to stop her rush and she takes my Lion. Laura is a great player and I am glad she talked me into drawing with her before the match!

Top Eight:

Vs. Shane Williams (R/b Sligh w/ tutor's and Mind Twist)
Game One:
For the first time all tournament I get my first turn Juzam, Shane fights back with a Goblin Cadet who gets Sword to Plowshared, He manages another Cadet and we start trading life 5 for 2 (3 if you count the Juzam upkeep). My Juzam meets his Diabolic Edict. I pull out another Djinn and Force of Will his attempt to kill it. He has no choice but to block with his Cadet and stops the damage for one more turn, but does not manage a miracle and I attack w/ the Goblin and Djinn for the win.
Game Two:
He plays a Second Turn Dwarven Miner and all I have in play is an Underground Sea. In hand I have an Edict, Sol Ring, Ancestral recall, CoB and other miscellaneous goodies (I can't remember what). I have to think this play out for a minute and decide it is best to kill this Miner ASAP! I lay the ring and play the edict then burn for one. Next turn I cast the Ancestral uncontested. I play another CoB and Mana Drain Miner number two. I burn from the MD mana as I have nothing to cast (lots of counters in hand). I manage to play a Morphling and Shane can do nothing to stop him. I'm in the top four!

Top Four:
Laura Mills (Sui-Black)
Shane Knepshield (Keeper)
Joel Barnes (Trix)
Zach Gable (Juzam/Control)

Up for grabs is $250.00 for first place, $100.00 for second, $50 for third and $50 store credit for forth.

It has been a long day, and we all decide to split four ways so I walk away with $100.00 cash and $12.50 in store credit. It was a great time and would like to thank Chris Cunningham and the whole Mile High Comic's staff for a wonderful tournament. For more info on this tournament and top four deck list's please go to the MHC's web site: http://www.milehighcomics.com/magic/pictures062202.html .
One other note of interest is that before the tournament I was ranked 8th in Colorado in Type One so I figured that after my finish I could possibly make it to the top five. Well the results are in and I am now 8th in Colorado, again…sigh.

Here is the deck I played:
Juzam/Control 06.22.2002

4   Juzam Djinn
3   Dark Ritual
1   Mind Twist
1   Yawgmoth's Will
1   Demonic Tutor
1   Diabolic Edict
   
4   Force of Will
4   Mana Drain
1   Ancestral Recall
1   Fact or Fiction
1   Time Twister
1   Time Walk
1   Merchant Scroll
1   Fire/Ice
1   Misdirection
1   Teferi's Response
1   Morphling
1   Mystical Tutor
   
1   Balance
2   Swords to Plowshares
   
4   City of Brass
4   Underground Sea
3   Volcanic Island
3   Tundra
1   Undiscovered Paradise
1   Badland
1   Wasteland
1   Strip Mine
1   Library of Alexandria
4   Mishra Factory
   
1   Mox Ruby
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Mox Jet
1   Mox Pearl
1   Black Lotus
1   Sol Ring
   
61   
   SideBoard:
4   REB
3   Obstinate Familiar
2   Powder Keg
1   Zuran Orb
1   Masticore
1   Diabolic Edict
1   CoP: Red
1   Aura Fracture
1   Teferi's Response

[Legend]

How does this deck have any possible benefit over playing Keeper, or any other decent control deck? Juzam Djinn is sub-optimal in Type I right now, and you seem to be playing a multicolor control deck in the Keeper mold, but with Juzams instead of just focusing on Morphlings (yeah I know you have 1), and random stuff like 3 Dark Rituals. You could do A LOT better with those slots.

      I don't see this at all - Top 4 or no Top 4, the competition was pretty weak based on what I read in this report. Maybe you can get away with playing a "fun" deck like this in your metagame - but in a more serious Type I scene no way. I think the fact that a Millstone deck was in the 3-1 bracket says a lot about your metagame.

     You seem to be playing Juzams just because you think they are cool. Yet, the object of tournaments is to give yourself the best chance to win. I know that is harsh, but I am sorry, I think your deck is bad. Try to look past the bluntness of this criticism and see it for what its worth.

[The Blob]

From what I can tell, this deck more or less follows Azhrei's aggro/control theory for T1, except making it a little more aggressive.  I can see several benefits this might have over keeper.  For one you can put an opponent on a clock ALOT faster.  Second, it doesnt have to worry about losing its one or two precious win conditions when you have 9 threats main.  Last, it looks like a lot more fun to play.

[kirdape3]

No, he posted this in BD and we told him what Legend did.  Juzam's simply inefficient in comparison to Morphling or even Masticore.  This may resemble aggro-control in the classic sense (counter, counter, guy, counter, counter, win), but those Djinni and Rituals should turn into Morphs #2 and 3 and then a D-Blow and Powder Kegs to fill the remaining slot.

On a side rant, isn't Mary Van Tyne supposed to be somewhat good at this game?  What in God's name is she doing killing with Millstone in Type One?  Yes, I know that the field wasn't up to normal standards, but come on.  If you could, Green Knight, point her our way.  The worst she can do is say no.

[MarkPharaoh]

Who cares if his deck isn't as good as Keeper?  What is the point of Magic anyway?  Too me, it's being creative and making your own fun idea's.  Yes I have and play some decks you might called net decked but other's of mine I came up with my own and those I have more fun with just for the simple fact that I MADE it.  

Also Green Knight, can you see if you can get the decklists for R/B Sligh?  I have never seen a decklists of one.

[Legend]

This is tournament magic. To truly be great, you have to be intense, and willing to play the best decks. This does not mean that you can't be creative and innovative, but it does mean that you ought to follow certain proven guidelines.

I just can't understand how people can say "I am just here to have fun, win or lose."

What? How can losing be fun? Winning, and winning big, is fun.

People who say that they are having fun when they are losing are usually kidding themselves. Yeah, maybe it is "fun" to ass it up a little bit with a bad deck (not for me), but at some point, enough is enough. Winning is fun.

If you can be a winner and be innovative/creative, then that is merely a bonus, albeit a good one.

[Bastian]

Perhaps he meant that he went there to have fun, not caring really if he lost or won. I don't think winning is a lot more fun than losing. It's playing that's fun.

And for God's sake, wether it's for a serious tournament or not Magic is a game before anything else. It was and IS meant to be fun.

[Zherbus]

I'm sure he wants to win. Otherwise hed know enough to post in the 'casual' forum.

Juzam's are dead and have been for a while. Since Negators birth really. I just think he owns 4, something not many can say, and refuses to let them go.

Type 1 has simply reached a point in time where Juzam no longer kicks ass. He is legendary...thats all.

Im sure this has already been discussed to death. Im sure youve made you stance clear on cutting Juzams. Whatever.

Take this for what its worth.

Rituals outside of mono black are generally card disadvantage. They are used in decks that cant abuse off color moxen. These slots are better as duress'sin my opinion.

I would also, as you can probably guess, cut all 4 Juzams. Replaced maybe with 3 negators/masticores and another morphling.

In your defense, looking at all the decks played, apparently your deck isnt that bad. I mean come on...Laura Mills plays Vamp tutor and Mishra's in 'suicide'. 2 Wastelands? Further proof that 'pro's' have no clue about type 1.

Millstone decks? Amazingly enough Ive seen a million people try to play this as if it were viable. They all end up with horrible play records.

James Matthews (Blue Combo Artifact). Theres a bye if I ever saw one. It looks as if someone read Chapins T1 analysis.

[Fishhead]

> On a side rant, isn't Mary Van Tyne supposed to
> be somewhat good at this game?  

One thing you notice about her deck is that it takes advantage of a huge hole in the metagame; it plays tons of enchantments which most people are not prepared for these days.  

"Parfait roolz!  But whats up with WG Tax?!  Now that sucks!"  Hehe.

I'd have to see the decklist to make a more serious judgement, but I certainly can see how you could make an interesting deck from those parts.  Tier One, probably not.  But metagamed against Sligh and Sui, with chances against control; probably so.  

> Yes, I know that the field wasn't up to normal
> standards, but come on.  

A 48 person field is going to be better then 75% of the people on this board ever see, even if half of the decks there totally suck.  But as I look at it, he plays 7 rounds and only his first two rounds are byes.  

> How does this deck have any possible benefit over
> playing Keeper, or any other decent control deck?

I'd rather play Keeper myself.  But 4 Juzams and the Rituals should give an edge in the Aggro matchup, right?  Each one is like a little Moat.  So there are concrete advantages, depending on the metagame you expect to face.

[Zherbus]

Quote > How does this deck have any possible benefit over
> playing Keeper, or any other decent control deck?

I'd rather play Keeper myself.  But 4 Juzams and the Rituals should give an edge in the Aggro matchup, right?  Each one is like a little Moat.  So there are concrete advantages, depending on the metagame you expect to face.

Masticore works better here.

[Zharradan]

Quote (Legend @ July 05 2002,05:30)What? How can losing be fun? Winning, and winning big, is fun.

I feel sorry for you, if you don't enjoy the game any more, and are just looking for an excuse to be able to look across a table and say "I WON!"  

(Not that I have anything against fierce competition and complete seriousness... I enjoy that also.)

[Angus]

I was at this tournament and played Mary (and lost) in round 6.  She is basically playing a fun deck that usually wins when her opponent concedes.  Heck, she even had Shahrazad in her deck and won one match (I was just watching) by winning game 1 and got game 2 into the sub-subgame (in other words, she cast Shahrazad in the subgame) and then played until time ran out.  Another game she got to over 100 life with multiple Ivory Towers out.

I was overall disappointed with my performance in the tournament.  I made the top 4 in the April T1 at MHC and have bought a Lotus since then, but finished 3-3 this time.

[Green Knight]

Legend: Keeper is a great deck, but I find it to be a bit… boring. I am a weird player, when I first started to play this game back in 1993 you played to have fun, there was no such thing as the DCI, there were no restrictions, nothing was banned you had to have 40 cards to play and that’s it. We used to play for ante and it was good! I actually had to stop playing ante at one point because I had lost too many forests and my deck was not functioning. You could not even find basic land's anywhere. Stores selling singles were very hard to find (i.e. nonexistent) and booster packs had all sold out everywhere, with no word of any other shipments coming in.
So yes I play this game because it's fun, I work 8 to 5 to pay the bills. Do I want to win? Yes, and on my own terms thank you very much.
Knock my meta-game if you will. I would not trade it for the world. My meta-game is not a vacuum and I like it that way! I think what makes type one fun is the fact that you never know what you will play against. There are numerous tier one decks (4 keeper's in the top eight and I know at leased two were fully powered, I believe all four were). Look @ the top eight of this tournament, there were four Keeper decks, yes four. How many of them made top four? One. Please don't get me wrong I appreciate Keeper, it is good. I just do not think it is the end-all be-all.

I appreciate your feed back. If Juzam Djinn is sub-optimal so be it, he has served me well and given me a great rating (1774). So what it comes down to is yes I might have a more refined deck if it was pure keeper, but I would not have had as good of a time playing it.

How many people here have dropped a first turn Juzam Djinn? Not many I would bet. Juzam is a four turn clock he applies early presser. I have been playing him forever. Am I attached? Very much so. Juzam is good, Negator is good as well. But if my Juzam gets bolted I do not have to sac 3 permanents.
Yes he has no evasion, costs four, and may be a bit dated. He is no Morphling or Phryxian Negator. He is just a Juzam Djinn and I love this card.

As far as Mary Van Tyne, her deck wasn't bad and she is a very good player, she finished 4-2 I believe. She was playing Shahrazad (Sp?) with life gain she just never pulled one against me, it was a fun match up. She could have played her sligh deck which is excellent, but even Mary said it gets old playing the same thing over and over. I'm glad she played something new and different, I was not expecting it!

The Blob: Yes the deck is Aggro/Control, it has gone through many changes from having 4 lightning bolts and a fireball to the 2 StP/Edict/Balance config above. And the fact that a Jesters cap will not totally wreck me is a good thing: ) My deck is not expected at all on apprentice (ppl know what I play IRL), people see my mana base and think I am playing keeper until I drop a surprise Djinn.  

Kirdare3: Yes I have been told the deck is a pile before, but it is fun and wins.
Are you saying I should drop 4 Juzam and 3 Rit for 2 Morphlings, 1 D.Blow and 3 Kegs (60 cards)? Keeper doesn't run 3 kegs, does it?

I should have noted it in the original report, I believe her kill was the Sharazard subgame after life gain. Mary is a good player, she play tests with her team (Viscous Bombing) and used to write for Star City. I'd be glad to mention themanadrain.com to her, but do not think she is interested.

What are the "Normal Standard"? Living in a place that has no support what so ever of type one? I'll take my 48 to 64 man tournaments 3 or 4 times a year. Thank you.

MarkPharaoh: Now that is the truth! You are my kind of player: ) I will try to get the R/B deck list. Send me your e-mail address and I will send it your way if I can get it.

Legend (Again): You need to get laid. "Try to look past the bluntness of this criticism and see it for what its worth." : ) LOL. That was too funny to pass up:), I'm just playing.
Seriously playing the game for a good time is all that matters to some people and there is nothing wrong with that. Winning is fun, especially winning with your own creation.

Bastian: True that. I wanted to win, I wanted to have fun. I did both and it was good. It is a game, a competitive game. But just a game.

Zherbus: Yes, I want to win! I think Juzam's do have a place in type one. Dead? No way, maybe just in need of a rebirth. Juzam's for life. When I think type one Juzam does come to mind. He fit's nicely into my aggro/control deck, this may not be the best deck for him but he does have a place in type one and that place is not my trade binder.

Juzam/Ritual is a combo in and of it's self, the mana boost is very useful and is handy for more than just Juzam, it work really well with Yawgmoths Will, Mind Twist, Morphling, heck even FoF if it came down to it… I will admit it can be a dead card at times and is the weakest card in my deck.

I do like two Morphling's in this deck, but hate Negaters and you say dark ritual is card disadvantage (which it is) what about Masticore? Yes he is a weenie killing fool, but that one card a turn discard REALLY hurts.

Laura is a pro? I will say her deck is good and believe she did Vamp for a Edict to kill a Juzam once and it was a good thing for her!

I have no comment about the Mill Stone, but Mark Justice did have a mean control deck with millstones in like 95/96. Yes I was playing Juzam's then too.

James's deck was not a bye by any means! The game it went off was brutal! I even had two counter's just in case, I am not saying this is better than Academy or High Tide (mono blue, a lot like Academy) which is a good deck.
Well then again this match up could have been worse, but I still say was no bye.

Fishhead:

I don't have Mary's deck list, but it seemed to have great synergy.

Good analogy the more you win the better decks you face.

The Juzam/Ritual did help vs. Aggro, it is useful vs. control too, use a ritual and mox to cast Juzam and keep land free to counter.

Zherbus: With Ritual/Juzam you have a one time card disadvantage. With Masticore it is a one card a turn disadvantage. For my purposes Juzam is better than Masticore. I know Masticore has a machine gun and does regenerate, but it a five turn clock vs. a four turn clock.

Angus:
What did you play in April?

On a side note I am working on a B/G Juzam deck with ritual, duress, hymn, Pernicious Deed, possibly call of the herd etc… (maybe even No Mercy) I will post this deck as soon as I have it all worked out and trade for the pieces.

[Legend]

Anybody who says "you need to get laid" needs to get laid. That has always been the case, and it always will be the case, because anybody who says something like that is just an insecure little boy.

I tried to be reasonable with you, but instead you have become the rude little man that I expected you would. I don't think civility works here, because I am obviously dealing with a fool. I also don't need to waste my time with a scrub like you who obviously has little or no handle on Type I play.

Finally, don't tell me about your 1774 in that crappy metagame. You wouldn't get past 1650 in a real metagame. Fortunately, you have Millstone decks and "Blue Combo Artifact" decks to play against.

Do you know what people like you are rated at Neutral Ground? 1650 or less. Maybe after getting your ass handed to you by some real players with big-time decks, you would change your total cliche "I just want to have fun" attitude to "geez, I suck, time to get better."

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Anybody who plays in a tournament and says "Oh I just want to have fun I don't care about winning" is kidding themselves and just full of crap. They know they can't win, so they cover it up with this excuse right away.

Go have fun in some casual games.


This was a BIG problem on BD, weaker players who would post sub-optimal decks, but not listen to reason. Self-righteous scrubs are very tough to deal with. Ones that want to learn are much better, and easier to help.

[Green Knight]

I am happily married, thank you.

Aww...Come on Legend  . I was just playing on your last little comment about …Try to look past the bluntness of this criticism and see it for what its worth… It seemed funny (Jr. High funny, but still  )

[TracerBullet]

Hey Ed...Don't knock it till you've tried it


Seriously though, it's good fun to look down and see the biggest, most expensive badass in the history of the game staring back at you.  I dunno, lord knows I'll probably never play a non-competetive deck to a tournement, but still, it's fun to be casual at times.  Beating your opponent is fun.  Beating them in style is even more fun.  I guess that's what people do when they know they can already beat the metagame.

[Nevyn]

Anybody who says "anybody who says you need to get laid needs to get laid" needs to get laid. Incidentally, I need to get laid.

Anyway, about that match one mirari thing, the way it got played out was perfectly legal, just sloppy on your part. Mirari triggers on the spell's announcement so you can counter before he pays 3 for mirari, but you shouldn't. You could have made him decide whether to pay the 3 before deciding whether to counter just by passing priority in response to the trigger.

[Green Knight]

TracerBullet, I do agree. Beats w/ the Juzam are good fun  
I still say the deck is competitive.

Legend: You totally changed your post! It read as "Anybody who says "you need to get laid" needs to get laid."" a minute ago. Oh well.
 I now see that I can never be as cool as you are. Will you sign my Island so I can make a "good" deck that can hack it vs. NG? I may have to play something as challenging as BBS! You know just to earn some respect from you.
Oh wait, never mind I was joking, you know "haha", I do that sometimes. Try to chill out and relax a little bit. It makes life more fun! Wait a minute you really don't like to have fun do you? You should try it.
 I really was not trying to be rude. I can understand why you lashed out like that after my comment above, because "the truth hurts the worst". FYI ED: Getting laid is a good thing!

Nevyn: Yeah it was sloppy. I am a bit rusty especially with the new stuff, if it ever comes up again I know what to do. Thx.

[Zherbus]

Ok, everyone break it up.

Green Knight - It was a well written report. I just dont see how you couldnt expect a horde of people to jump on about how you should play X over Y. It happened at BD as well.

If you basically refuse to take out the Juzams, say so in a disclaimer. Something like, "I know you all hate Juzam's, but I've been emotionally attached and refuse to let them go." or something. As LONG as you post this deck, you will ALWAYS have people saying these things.

Legend offers harsh but sound advice, he wasnt throwing a personal insult. The second you threw out the 'get laid' thing, thats when it became bad.

Besides everyone knows once you get married...you stop getting laid

Legend - Walk away man. Walk away. Dont put fuel on the fire, or even toss some more matches.

To Everyone - Your deck is NOT YOU. When someone insults your deck, they arent insulting YOU. Lets keep it that way.

[Green Knight]

Hey Zherbus, you're right thanks. I'll be good.

Just in case anyone missed it the Juzams are here to stay  I do appreciate the feed back though.

I was just playing around with Legend (or trying to! I should have said something like "chill out on the winning is not everything it's the only thing attitude" vs. ...get laid. Sorry Ed, I take it back I take it back you don't need to get laid.
Winning is fun and winning through creativity and innovation are even more fun not a bonus IMHO. I didn't mean to pee in your Cheerios, cool? So you can stop adding to that post up there.

     Qoute: Besides everyone knows once you get married...you stop getting laid

LOL.

[Nevyn]

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To Everyone - Your deck is NOT YOU. When someone insults your deck, they arent insulting YOU. Lets keep it that way.

That's good Zherbus, because your deck is an asshole.

JUST KIDDING. I apologize profusely in advance. I couldn't resist.This is all in fun.

[Fishhead]

> Masticore works better here.

The 2 Morphling/1 Masticore config is fine in Keeper and "Masticore > Juzam"  but you arent suggesting that he just drop 4 Masticores into his current deck to make it better are you?!

I dont think you can support 4 Masticores in this particular deck.  Certainly, you couldnt afford to put 2 on the table at the same time.

Anyway, Juzam control is very old school, but it also points at a weakness in the Keeper metagame - everyone playing 1 Edict, 1 StP and 1 Fire/Ice.  He's got 4 dangerous, disposable creatures and can gambit them out.  Like I said before, I'd still prefer to play Keeper, but I can see what Green Knight is up to.

> Finally, don't tell me about your 1774 in that crappy
> metagame. You wouldn't get past 1650 in a real metagame.

LoL.  Name three metagames that are better than Green Knights.  

His report is about a 7 round tourney; whens the last time anyone on this board played 7 rounds of T1 IRL?  He played two nationally known players, possibly there were one or two more that he didnt have to play.  Its clearly not a cakewalk.

Its possible (and I say this with a straight face) that Legend has nothing to learn from this report.  But dimissing this as "a crappy metagame" is over the top.  Even if you dont agree with Green Knights build, theres something to learn from the fact that he T4ed with it in a tourney most people can only wish was running in their area.  

[Green Knight]

LOL @ Nyven

Fishhead: I would have nightmares playing four Masticores! ::Shudders::

Thank you FishHead, it would be sweet to fit 4 Phryxian Negater's in the sideboard on top of this, but there is no room. That sounds really good of the top of my head, but would probably be a really bad idea to try.
People do not have a lot of answers to Fat and Juzam can be a huge surprise factor:) I love it.
My only problem with keeper/control is Abyss/Moat especially Moat, I hate Moat!! Thus the Morphling and Mishra's maindeck. I played fairly well against the fully powered keeper I did play piloted by Jason (went 1-2). It all came down to who won the counter war. My Ritual/Juzam rocked in game two!

The Metagame is thriving here, I feel very lucky for that. Alex Smith plays here sometimes as well, he is good (1899 rating, even better than Legend:) ) and there are a lot of good type one players in the Denver/Thornton area.

I know that Legend knows his metagame well, and will probably never come to Colorado to play. So you could be right about this not being for him.
I love to read tournament reports. Knowledge is power so the more I can glean from others the better.
I agree w/ the assessment about the meta game (it's not crappy, damn it!, thank you. Also I strongly feel there is a place in type one for Juzam Djinn (you couldn't guess that though could you:)?), maybe the only place for him is Thornton Colorado, but he fits.

[Angus]

Green Knight - I played Sui-black at the April tournament.  My only loss was to A.J.

Legend - Some people like to play rogue decks.  They might not win as much, but at least they can say it was their own deck.  I play a more or less standard sui build, but I have some janky cards in my sideboard.