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Author Topic: GroAtog wins at C&J's  (Read 1618 times)
Saucemaster
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« on: April 07, 2003, 05:48:31 pm »

Hello again to all of you.  It's been a while since I wrote a tournament report--I tried something a little different for the last few weekly tournaments at C&J's with fairly disastrous results (a 2-2-1 record with Trinity Keeper, with one of the losses and the draw due to play mistakes--must practice Keeper--and 3-2 the next week with Rector Trix, with the three wins only coming after I went 0-2 for the first two rounds.  Ugh.).  I decided that I needed to redeem myself, so this last week I decided to bring what I currently consider the best deck in the format--GAT.  I've done well with it at C&J's in the past, and though I expected a little bit of SB hate for it, I felt confident that I had a better shot with GAT than with any other deck currently, as the possibility of running into Gro variants of any sort made ReapLace (my other pet deck) a potentially disastrous choice.  But fear not, brethren, for my choice was pleasing in the Lord's eyes, and He has rewarded this prodigal son.  For has not Berserk been fruitful and multiplied?

Now, usually I take pretty detailed notes on all my games--partly for my own benefit, as it helps me analyze my play, partly because it makes writing tournament reports much easier, and partly because it's just generally annoying, and I'm a bastard.  Unfortunately, it also distances me a little from the game as I'm playing and takes up precious time in each round.  So I didn't take notes this time around.  For that reason, this will be a (for me) pretty un-detailed report, and there may be a few inaccuracies here and there.  Remember kids, the Holy Trinity of tournament reports is Truth, Excuse, and Ego.  They always contain a little of each, just in different measures.

Anyway, on to the report.

The field was, once again, surprisingly large.  Twenty-eight people were present, and almost all of the "really good" local players who have a good shot at winning the tournament were present.  These weekly tournaments haven't dipped below about 25 players in the last month or so, and most of the contenders who used to play pseudo-Type 2 decks are now playing pretty decent budget aggro or aggro-control decks (one fateful tournament a couple weeks ago saw *THREE* Ankh-Sligh mirror matches in five rounds, for chrissakes).  I'm just praying that no one brings any Smokestack decks, as it's really the only deck I'm truly afraid of.  So what does Fishhead bring?  Yeah, you guessed it.

Round 1: Stompy.  I keep an eye on Fishhead's matchup and see that he's playing against a pretty bad Goblin-based deck.  Normally that's just a bye, but it's actually conceivable that even bad weenie-aggro could take out Ducktape if it gets the right draw.  So I keep my fingers crossed.  Meanwhile, my games are Stompy vs. CounterStompy (thanks to AxeMurder for the nomenclature).  Game one, however, I lose to: first-turn River Boa (off an Elvish Spirit Guide), no counter.  I lay a land, having kept a hand with two Dryads, a few cantrips, and land, and when he Rancors the Boa on his turn, I Opt in response.  The first card is land, so off to the bottom with it, and I draw a Brainstorm, IIRC.  No help there.  On my turn, figuring that I need to race unless I get Gush to avoid the Islandwalking, I play the first Dryad.  Still no counters in hand.  He Rancors the River Boa again.  This is extremely bad.  However, I get the other Dryad down, they both start growing as they're supposed to, and I'm able to Gush back all my Islands.  Unfortunately, neither Dryad is big enough yet to do anything but chump the massive Boa, and I go down one turn before I would have been able to make a Dryad Boa-proof.  Ah well.

Games two and three, however, go as they're pretty much supposed to.  He drops some little green men, I drop one very large, angry, toothy blue-and-black man, and I win.  Game three: repeat, except this time Dr. Teeth doesn't show up, and instead a very large green woman does the dirty work.

Even better, I notice that Fishhead ends up losing round one to the red deck.  Unless I get really unlucky and either lose or get paired down, I should be golden until the final round.  Dodged that bullet.

Games: 2-1
Matches: 1-0

Round 2: Goblins.  This deck is pretty much a Goblin Sligh build except for the random Sparksmiths, which, however good they may be in draft right now, just will not cut it in Type 1.  Misdirecting Goblin Grenades is some serious fun.  I win 2-0.

Games: 4-1
Matches: 2-0

Round 3: Elves!  Okay, in general, this is not a good Type 1 deck.  However, it presents interesting problems for GAT that I had not anticipated when I sat down to play against it.  Game one things go more or less as I expect them to.  Dryad gets big, Llanowar Elves and Quirion Rangers chump block, Deranged Hermit gets countered.  

Game two, however, gets tight.  I side in the second Berserk from the board, as well as Submerges, but the board situation is getting out of hand for me; I've got a fledgling little Dryad on the table, while he's chumping with squirrel tokens from Deranged Hermit.  Worse, that Rebel-for-Elves guy is on the table (Skyshroud Poacher or something?) and he has more than enough mana to start whipping out tremendous numbers of very big squirrel tokens.  This is where I make a mistake.  He's at 20, I've got a 4/4 Dryad on the table.  I have a Berserk in hand, so at his EOT I Mystical for another.  He's tapped out, as he's swung with everything he has.  I triumphantly lay Lotus, sack for GGG, and double-Berserk my Dryad.  I had COMPLETELY forgotten that Quirion Ranger does NOT tap to use its ability.  Aaaaargh.  So he chumps with an Elf, goes to 1 life, then kills me.  Stupid, stupid play mistake on my part.  Worse, we're now getting a little low on time, and I do not want to draw.

Game three, however, starts looking pretty bad for me pretty quickly.  I have Psychatog, but once again he's managed to resolve a Skyshroud Poacher and has a Deranged Hermit already on the table, with concomitant squirrels.  Time is called, and we have five turns--but it looks like he'll be able to get me before then.  I Time Walk and use up the first of the extra turns (I'd been holding it for a litte bit, because I was pretty sure we'd end up in this situation), then draw YawgWill.  Hmmm.  I stare at my graveyard for a long time, then at my hand.  I don't have Fastbond, so I cannot generate mana indefinitely.  I have a Berserk in hand.  I can either replay the Time Walk to take another of the extra turns and hope he doesn't get Concordant Crossroads (which would mean he could still kill me in the two turns he'd get total) for the draw, or I can replay Demonic Tutor to go for double-Berserk and try to win this game.  With Fastbond it would have been a moot point, as I'd have just done both and won.  I don't have enough cards in hand/GY to actually KILL him with 2x Berserk, however (given the number of creatures he'll generate by searching/casting a Hermit on his turn) unless I draw either Gush or a cantrip on my turn (no kidding.  One more card in the 'yard will be exactly enough to do it).  He takes his turn, drops Gaea's Cradle (good thing I didn't play for the draw!) and he passes with almost thirty power of creatures on his side of the table.  He does the right thing and doesn't attack, since he can kill me next turn with no fear of reprisal after generating yet MORE tokens.  I hold my breath, and draw...

Brainstorm, which gets me Gush.  

Tight, tight games.  Probably the best games I played all evening.  I was kicking myself for almost throwing away the match in Game two, but justice prevailed!  (See, there's the Ego jumping in.)

Games: 6-2
Matches: 3-0

Round 4: Mask.  Ugh, this matchup is absurdly close.  Zhalfirin and I have tested this matchup quite a bit, and it came out exactly 50/50 in game one, and about 60/40 in favor of Mask game two if Mask had Blood Moon in the side.  It's not Zhalfirin I'm playing, but the games were tight nonetheless.

Game one, I end up with two huge Dryads who kill the first Dreadnought, the smaller one surviving.  Another facedown creature hits (played for four mana), and I'm pretty sure it's Negator, but I can't risk swinging, just in case it's a Dreadnought, as I'm at 8 (one hit from the first Dreadnought before I managed to kill it).  My suspicion is confirmed when he doesn't attack with it.  However, another facedown creature hits the table (again played for four mana).  If it's another Negator, I'm fine, but if it's a Dreadnought... well, if it's a Dreadnought, I'm dead no matter what happens.  I have Berserk in hand, and if I target one of his facedown creatures and then Misdirect it to my Dryad, I can get the Dryad large enough to trample for the win even if he's got Negator/Lord of Tresserhorn.  I do it.  Oops, Dreadnought.  I lose.

Game two: in come the Naturalizes and Smothers.  He's never really in this came, as I have DT, Naturalize, and Smother in my opening hand.  He plays two facedown Dreadnoughts on turn TWO, but I calmly Smother one. He Unmasks me before swinging and sees Naturalize and DT.  He takes the Naturalize, but during my turn I just DT for another Smother (with enough mana thanks to a Mox Jet) and kill his other Dreadnought.  He can't recover in time, and a Dryad kills him right before time is called.  So we tie.

Games: 7-3
Matches: 3-0-1.

By this point it appears that almost all of the usual suspects have dropped at least one game: Fishhead has lost one match, Zhalfirin has lost one match, Brent (TMD account?) has lost a match... and I'm the one who gets paired up (Mask and I are both 3-0-1) and face NaClhv with ABM in the finals.  I'm feeling pretty confident; we both know that this matchup is harsh for ABM.

Round 5: Game one goes as usual.  See NaClhv's report here.  I get a Dryad and a Tog, I think?  He Mysticals for Balance, I try not to let on that I've got Counterspell, FoW, and Gush all in hand, he goes for Balance, I counter, and that's game.  Turn five kill with double counter backup.

Game two is one of those glorious uber-broken GAT games where you're playing aggro-combo instead of aggro-control.  This is the second most broken start I've ever had with GAT; the first was in testing against Zhalfirin's Mask, where I got the much-touted first-turn kill off Fastbond + multiple Gushes + Time Walk + Yawgwill + Psychatog + Berserk, etc.  Now, I've sided out my maindeck Berserk, since I shouldn't need it to win in this matchup, but it ends up not mattering, as I drop a first-turn Fastbond, and go to town with Gushes and Scrolls for Gushes until I get Yawgwill, end up with a Psychatog on the table and a Cunning Wish for Berserk.  I couldn't get both Berserk AND the Time Walk, however, so I have to give him a single turn.  Damn.  Wink  I kill turn two with Berserk'd Tog.

Final results: Games: 9-3, Matches: 4-0-1.  It felt good to win again after a short slump, and there's no better way to come back than to win it all, I guess.  My pairings were pretty good, since strangely most of the best players at C&J's dropped a round before I had to play them, but I'll take all the luck I can get, thanks.

General thoughts: I love playing GAT and all, but sometimes I feel guilty doing so.  There are so few decks that can realistically compete with it right now; Mask and TnT are pretty much it (and maybe Elves!? ).  But no other deck fits my playstyle as well right now, and it feels silly to play a deck I know will be inferior in the C&J's metagame just because I feel guilty for winning with GAT.  We'll see.  I liked that Rector Trix deck from the prior week, but it didn't perform that well.  I'm still not sure whether that was the deck's fault or my own (I'm leaning towards "my own", but the deck still doesn't feel as powerful as GAT), but it makes me wary of picking it up again until I've had a chance to test it more.

Random thought: so, Fishhead is (last I checked) ranked #1 in California in Type 1 (rating in the 1870s, IIRC).  I'm wondering whether his first-round loss to a kid who couldn't have a rating higher than the low 1600s may have lost him more points than he regained by *winning* the Matchplay event on 4/5.  I suppose not, but it's kinda funny that it's actually conceivable.
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carl
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2003, 06:04:04 pm »

Thanks for the report.

Why don't people start sideboarding Chains of Mephistopheles vs GAT?
it costs only 1B and cripples you.
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Fishhead
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2003, 06:50:22 pm »

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Quote  I keep an eye on Fishhead's matchup and see that he's playing against a pretty bad Goblin-based deck.  Normally that's just a bye, but it's actually conceivable that even bad weenie-aggro could take out Ducktape if it gets the right draw.  

Well, I didnt see any "Excuses" in your report from the trinity of Excuses, Ego and Truth.  So I'll fill in the Excuses. Wink

Game 1: You mention decks getting good draws.  My Goblin opponent's draw in the first game is Lackey, Piledriver, Piledriver, Piledriver.  He savagely pummels me with Goblins which he does not have to cast through my Sphere of Resistance.  
Game 2: My deck gives me 4-ofs today.  In the first game I get 4 Spheres.  This time I get 4 Smokestacks.  Fortunately, Smokestacks are very very good.  I smash all of his permenants.  I cant Weld Smokestacks because I only draw Smokestacks, not Welders.  But casting new Smokestacks is almost as good as Welding them.  I win.
Game 3: I Tinker up a Trike early and mutual with 2 Piledrivers and some other crap Goblins.  This game I will only be allowed to draw cards that cost 2U.  After using the Tinker, I have 3xMeditate and 1xTimeTwister.  The game goes on and I cast Spheres whenever I draw them to try and keep Sligh down, but I just end up aceing myself out of ever having a good time to play my remaining 2U cards.  The game just goes on and on and on.  A Smokestack will win for me, an active Welder will win for me.  I draw more Spheres.  I draw some Tangle Wires.  I draw 2 Welders which get Goblin Grenaded!  The game goes on longer.  I have drawn half my deck.  I cant find a Smokestack.  Time is called.  Sligh has 6 land on the table to get around my 3 Spheres.  I have been PoPed twice and am at 2 facing a Goblin Balloon Brigade.  I am pecked to death during the extra 5 rounds.  Sad face!

Is that a good enough excuse?  Wink  Then I get the Bye.  I hate the Bye.  I came to play.  I didnt come to sit out Round 2.  I walk around the tournament.  Whenever someone sees me walking around, I have this conversation:

Them: "Did you win already?"
Me: "No, I got the Bye."
Them: "How did you get the Bye?"
Me: "I lost in the first round."
Them: "You lost in the first round?"
Me: "Yes."
Them: "Hahahah.  And then you got the Bye.  Haha."
Me: "Grrrr."

I had that conversation about 9 times during the round.  

I then lose to -webster- in the final round to go 2-2-Bye on the day.  Web gets an early Void in the first game and locks me out, I get him in the second and then we go to the third.  Heres all you need to know:

Web: "I Hymn you."
Me: "Gah!  Is that 3 Hymns already?"
Web: /spreads out graveyard
Web: "No, thats all 4."

The graveyard looks like Hymn-Wasteland-Hymn-Demonic Tutor-Hymn-Sinkhole-Hymn.  Mine contains pretty much every card I drew.  Sad face again!
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UnstableCornBread
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2003, 07:30:49 pm »

<== Brent (;

My highlight of this tourny was when my Tog was recoiled after I pumped for 17 buwhahaha.. Not like I had a choice facing down a masked out critter and being at 7 life. Not really a good highlight but fun none the less

Good report as always man, hope you see you Thursday again
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Saucemaster
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2003, 11:53:13 pm »

Quote
Quote Well, I didnt see any "Excuses" in your report from the trinity of Excuses, Ego and Truth.  So I'll fill in the Excuses. Wink

Damn, I forgot to include some.  Hmm... well, I suppose my pointing out that I thought that Quirion Ranger tapped to use its ability and therefore lost game 2 against Elves is an excuse.  Yours is way better, though. Wink

Tough luck there, but I'm sure you'll return with a vengeance to pummel us all in a week or two.

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Quote Why don't people start sideboarding Chains of Mephistopheles vs GAT?
it costs only 1B and cripples you.

Agreed.  I'm glad I didn't see it.  I've thought about upping the Naturalize count specifically against Chains and Blood Moon, but I haven't seen any Chains around yet.  Note that I didn't play against any Sui/Void builds, which are most likely to side in Chains (though plenty of other decks can, too).  Both Mask decks in our metagame bring in Blood Moon from the side, not to mention TnT when it's around, so there's no shortage of "game over" enchantments to worry about.

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Quote <== Brent (;

I didn't know you had a TMD account!  New, or unused old?

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Quote My highlight of this tourny was when my Tog was recoiled after I pumped for 17 buwhahaha.. Not like I had a choice facing down a masked out critter and being at 7 life. Not really a good highlight but fun none the less

I have to admit that, after having my own Psychatogs sliced and diced by Christiaan (Zhalfirin) many times, it gave me a certain twisted pleasure to see him holding Recoil while you were in a position where you were forced to swing for lethal.  Makes me feel less like it's my fault for losing to him.  Wink  Of course, the more rational part of me was rooting for you.  That was a spectacular, if unfortunate way to end the match.
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