Ur Phidian

[Anonymous]

I am very interested in making a Ur Forbidian Deck and am willing to get mana drains/force of wills and the rest (non-power) cards except morphlings at the moment. Ill post the decklist Im going to make within some time and discussion.

Skeeter's Phidian

Counters: (11)
4x Mana Drain
3x Force of Will
2x Mana Leak
2x Counterspell

Creatures: (7)
4x Ophidian
3x ? (Serendib Efreet?)

Board Control: (9)
2x Powder Keg
4x Fire/Ice
1x Prophetic Bolt
1x Gorilla Shaman
1x Capsize

Card Adv.: (8)
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Braingeyser (stoke when I get a hold of it)
3x Impulse
3x Brainstorm

(35)

Artifacts: (7)
1x Zuran Orb
1x Ivory Tower
1x Sol Ring
1x Mox Diamond
1x Lotus Pedal
1x Mana Crypt
1x Grim Monolith

Land:
4x Volcanic Island
3x Gemstone Mine
2x City of Brass
2x Undiscovered Paradise
2x Mountain
5x Island

My Meta is pretty well split
Aggro=45%
Control=30%
Combo=15%
Scrub Decks=10%

Thanks

   Skeeter974

[j_orlove]

Quote 3x Brainstorm

1x Zuran Orb
1x Ivory Tower
1x Mox Diamond
1x Lotus Pedal
1x Mana Crypt

3x Gemstone Mine
2x Mountain

These are bad.
Brainstorm doesn't help without shuffle effects. If you added some fetchlands, then maybe they could stay. Otherwise, replace them.

The lifegain artifacts won't show up consistently, and the diamond, petal, and crypt are just really bad. Land would be better than these mana artifacts.

Gemstine mines and mountains don't work in this deck. Mishra's factories and islands would be better. Also, how about some shivan reefs?

18 lands is nowhere near enough. Even if you replace the 3 bad mana artifacts, you still have only 21 land, and the ring and monolith. You need more than this.

I just noticed that you only have 3x Force of will. Why?
And a few misdirections would be good too.

Why won't you get morphlings? The deck really needs them. You could go 2x morphling, 1x masticore if you want, but don't try to replace them with serendibs, unless you want to make a U/R IBZ deck.

[Anonymous]

 Thanks j_orlove
How whould this mana base be?
4x Volcanic Island
4x Shivan Reef
4x Mishra's Factory
2x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine
1x Grim Monolith
1x Sol Ring
2x Undiscovered Paradise
4x Island
2x Mountain

[j_orlove]

That does look better. I'm still not sure that you want mountains, though. Especially with cards like mana draina nd counterspell, you want to minimize the number of lands that don't produce U. Maybe you could run a couple flooded strands/polluted deltas to fetch the volcanics. Some people are also really liking dustbowl, so maybe you could put that in somewhere.

What about the rest of the deck and the sideboard? What do those look like now?

[Anonymous]

 Here is the Decklist(relatively the same)  

Skeeter's Ur/Phidian

Blue:
4x Mana Drain
3x Force of Will
1x Misdirection
2x Counterspell
2x Mana Leak

4x Ophidian
2x Morphling

4x Impulse
1x Braingeyser
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Capsize

Red:
1x Guerilla Shaman
1x Kaervek's Tourch (can dumb excess mana drain mana into)

Split:
4x Fire/Ice
1x Prophetic Bolt

Artifact:
2x Powder Keg
1x Masticore

Land/Mana Sources
4x Volcanic Island
4x Shivan Reef
2x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine
2x Undiscovered Paradise
3x Mishra's Factory
7x Island
1x Gemstone Mine


Sideboard:
4x Flametongue Kavu
4x REB
3x BEB
2x Back to Basics vs Blood Moon
2x Powder Keg


Thanks again
j_orlove



 :rock:Skeeter974

[j_orlove]

Quote Here is the Decklist(relatively the same)

Except better.  


Torch, though, seems unnecessary. You have mishra's, morphling, braingeyser, capsize, masticore, and prophetic bolt to sink drain mana into, and you don't often get a lot of mana off the drain anyway. A second shaman might be more useful (it depends on your metagame). Otherwise, maybe another counterspell?

Also, sol ring disappeared--that was actually a good choice, since it provides mana every turn without any drawbacks. I was criticizing the other artifacts, since they don't work better than lands. Sol ring does, so it should go back in.  

[Anonymous]

 Yeah Ill take the torch out for the sol ring (2nd shaman isnt necasarry for my meta)  

Thanks once again j_orlove

  Skeeter974

[Andreas]

My advice would be to replace Undiscovered Paradise and Gemstone Mine with Polluted Delta or Flooded Strand (does not matter which one).

I would also try at all costs to play at least 4 Force of Will and 2 Misdirections in this type of deck.

Blood Moon is a lot better in this Decks SB than Back to Basics, and I would play at least 3.