U/R PHIDS

[Anonymous]

i need a real good decklist and sideboard for U/R Phids that can deal with a meta game of the following

Keeper 20%
Turboland 20%
Miracle Grow 10%
Combo 20%
Suicide Black 10%
Stompy 20%

[Anonymous]

Rough Draft...

4 Flametongue Kavu
4 Fire/Ice
4 Ophidian
2 Morphling
4 Mana Drain
4 Counterspell
3 Lightning Bolt
2 Forbid
2 Force of Will
2 Powder Keg
4 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall

24 mana sources

I'm not sure about the SB, but probably more Kegs, Pyroclasm, etc.

Maybe run Cunning Wish.

[Rebel428]

Flametongue Kavu does not belong in a Type 1 deck.  Not running four Force of Will is quite a bad idea.

Here's a version I got from somewhere else (whoever you are, sorry I can't recall your name).  I've played with it from time to time; it does pretty well.

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Mana Leak
2 Misdirection

2 Merchant Scroll
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Capsize

4 Fire/Ice
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Prophetic Bolt (In an aggro environment I'd probably use Kegs instead of the Pro. Bolt and mox monkey)

4 Ophidian
3 Morphling

7 Island
4 Volcanic Island
4 Shivan Reef
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
5 Moxen

[Anonymous]

why would this deck run all five moxes?

[Anonymous]

All the moxen will considerably speed up the deck. A lot of the cards in this deck require a good bit of colorless mana to cast so you can use off color moxen to speed it up. The second decklist is the one you want to make. Flametongue kavu's actualy do have a place in type 1. U/R Phid players run a few in the Sideboard against pretty much any creature heave deck and they are a 4/2 beatdown.

  Skeeter974  

     

[Rebel428]

As Skeeter said, the off-color Moxen are there to accelerate the deck.  A first turn land + Mox allows you to Mana Leak from the first turn, or cast Merchant Scroll at the opponent's EOT if they cast nothing you need to counter.  Also, if you play first, an early Mox allows you to play an early Ophidian against other control unmolested unless they have FoW.

I'll admit that Flametonges are OK against the artifact-based decks like TnT, but there are better solutions.  Here, for example, Control Magic would probably be a better SB choice than Flametongue against TnT.  The only place I would imagine Flametongue being good is in a TnT sideboard for the mirror.

As for a sideboard, here is the one that came with the decklist (again, thanks whoever I got it from).  It should be fine in your meta.

4 Red Elemental Blast
4 Flametongue Kavu (I prefer Control Magic; Flametongues are good against Sligh/TnT but you didn't mention those in your meta)
3 Blood Moon
2 Pyroclasm
1 Hydroblast
1 Scrying Glass

P.S.  Funny thing to do vs. Stompy is Misdirect a pump spell onto Ophidian and use it to block.  Misdirect Rancor and Ophidian is almost as good as

[Anonymous]

actually tnt was present a few times and so was sligh so should i consider flametongues in the sb?

[Anonymous]

i think 2 morphlings is enough. so with an extra slot open what should fill it?

[Rebel428]

I'd say it's really personal preference.  Fire/Ice almost singlehandedly owns sligh, and Control Magic is preferable to Flametongue Kavu against TnT since they can just Welder creatures back if you kill them.  On the other hand, Flametongue Kavu allows you to become an aggro-control deck when necessary.  I use Control Magic, but FTK is a reasonable choice as well.  

I highly recommend staying at three Morphlings, but if you want to cut down to two then I'd add a Stroke of Genius in place of the third.

[Anonymous]

whats FTK?

[Anonymous]

sorry i just realized that its flametongue kavu

whats the deal with the prophetic bolt over keg?

[Anonymous]

FTK is Flametongue Kavu

And for the 3rd spot for the morphlings I would add a masticore is the 3rd Spot.

  Skeeter974  

     

Prophetic Bolt acts a prettyh good burn source (4 damage) that has a built in impulse. I would use both keg and bolt maindeck.

[Anonymous]

Here was my U/r deck before I sold all of my cards and quit Magic:

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
3 Impulse
4 Mana Drain
1 Merchant Scroll
2 Misdirection
2 Morphling
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Ophidian
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Teferi's Response
1 Timetwister
1 Time Walk

4 Fire/Ice

2 Gorilla Shaman

4 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Mountain
4 Shivan Reef
1 Strip Mine
4 Volcanic Island
4 Wasteland

Sideboard:
2 Hydroblast
1 Llawan, Cephalid Empress
1 Rushing River
3 Dwarven Miner
4 Pyrokinesis
4 Red Elemental Blast

(The sideboard varied and also included Tormod's Crypt, Annul, Rootwater Thief, and Guerrilla Tactics, depending on the environment.)

[FeverDog]

I know this isnt the right place for this, so forgive me.

Marco, could you PM me your e-mail address?

[Anonymous]

I also apologize for this post. FeverDog, I can't PM you because I am not registered. Luckily, Zherbus has asked me to email him and I think he may be granting me a membership. Either way, my e-mail address is: marco_toso@hotmail.com