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Author Topic: Need ideas for Mono Blue Sideboard VS Mono black  (Read 2042 times)
Anonymous
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« on: January 29, 2003, 09:37:11 pm »

I see alot of black decks ranging from control to suicide, mask or reanimater. And all ussually run 4 duress,4 hymn, mind twist, unmask or a shit load of some other disruption. I play mono u trix as of right now and im having trouble deciding on a sideboard selection. Right now Im using deep analysis but im sure here are some better ideas out there. So please post.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2003, 02:59:41 am »

Well being a former suide black player I can tell you what other mono blue decks have used.  

Dodecapods turn hymn and hyppie into give me free beef.

Kegs are not too good vs fast suicide (fleshreaver.dec! I luv u JP!) and are still slow as ass vs the shade versions.

Brainstorms in the main are good at hiding key cards from discard.

Propaganda is a good all around solution to creature rush.

Is you sideboard transformational?  Do you have morphlings in the sideboard?
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Anonymous
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2003, 12:10:57 pm »

Morphlings are in side board
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Anonymous
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2003, 01:48:22 pm »

Have you though about running U/r Trix?  

For mono U If you are running full artifact acceleration then propaganda would probably be your best bet against aggro in general.  Props and try to go suicide morphling against them.

Misdirections are good too.  Send edict, hymn, and sink right back at them.  How many misDs to you run main?

actually while we are at it, post you current deck list and your current sideboard.  Also please list the decks in you metagame that you are concerned with.
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MoreFling
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2003, 03:03:51 pm »

Why not post your decklist if you want help?

This way, we can give you serious advice.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2003, 06:18:05 pm »

what! nobody mentioned psychic purge yet!   if you are really lucky, this gem might kill a shade
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Anonymous
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2003, 09:49:05 pm »

plus i would take 2 to psionic blast a negator ALL DAY.  except, of course, for the last 2.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2003, 11:50:11 pm »

OK heres my Deck List. I dont own any misdirections for some reason or psyonic blasts. And Im working on getting the stronger cards like PB's, library, and power.

4 illusions of grandeur
3 donate

4 force of will
4 counter spell
4 mana leak
2 Arcane Denial

1 intuition
1 mystical tutor
1 FOF
1 recall (not ancestral)
4 accumulated knowledge
1 stroke of genious
3 Impulse
2 Brain Storm

2 powder kegs
1 capsize

1 mox Diamond
1 lotus petal
1 sol ring
4 flooded strand
15 Islands

Sideboard
3 Back to basics
3 chills
4 Morphling
2 powder keg
3 Deep analysis
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Anonymous
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2003, 12:23:16 am »

please, never, ever, ever, ever, run arcane denial in a deck, like ever.  

Do you own mana drains?

Have you tried sapphire medallions?

I think some of you trouble could be in the build.  It doesn't seem optimal.  I live in a whack environment were Trix shows up like every tourney.  

For reference this is John Spires deck of the illustrious Team Hobotech.  


Lotus
5 Moxen
Sol Ring
Mana Crypt
4 Sapphire Medallion
Tolarian Academy
4 City of Brass
4 Volcanic Island
3 Shivan Reef
3 Island
3 Intuition
4 Accumulated Knowledge
Ancestral
Time Walk
Timetwister
4 Force of Will
Fire/Ice
Rushing River
Capsize
3 Impulse
4 Illusions of Grandeur
4 Donate
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
2 Red Elemental Blast

Sideboard:
3 Morphling
4 Pyroblast
4 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Fire/Ice
1 Rushing River
1 Haunting Echoes

for mono blue I would try MoloDET's version

DETrix
Combo
3 Illusions of Grandeur
3 Donate
Draw/Search
2 Intuition
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Timewalk
2 Deep Analysis
1 Timetwister
1 Cunning Wish
1 Mystical Tutor
2 Merchant Scroll
4 Accumulated Knowledge
1 Gush
Utility
2 Powder Keg
Counters
2 Mana Leak
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Misdirection
Mana
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
5 SoLoMoxen
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Stripmine
14 Island

SB:
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Stroke of Genius
2 Cursed Totem
2 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Back to Basics
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Divert
1 Psionic Blast
1 Capsize

Though I would try to somehow increase it to 4/4 in the main for the combo elements.  4 donate/4 illusions.

If discard is your main worry, this sounds janky as hell but run library of leng!

Janky thrown together version
Ghetto Blue

Combo 8
4 Illusions of Grandeur
4 Donate

Draw/Search 12
4 Intuition  
2 Deep Analysis  
1 Cunning Wish
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Accumulated Knowledge

Defense 3
Propaganda
 
Counters 14
4 Mana Leak
4 Force of Will
4 Counterspell (drains if you can get them)
2 Misdirection (get them!)

Mana 23

4 Saphirre Medallion
1 Sol Ring    
18 Island

SB
4 Morphling
4 Envelope (tech vs black all their threat spells are sorceries)
4 Energy Flux (tech vs TNT/Mask/Parfait)
3 Back to Basics (keeper hate)

Ok the above deck is not meant to be a tuned version of any kind it is just some thoughts, you can do the refining.  This is your job too SwordSaint.  Hope some of this helps
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Anonymous
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2003, 12:28:57 am »

I find this very helpful. Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.
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MoreFling
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2003, 05:32:36 am »

heh, maybe next time, the topic should read need help with Mono-Blue Trix (illusions-donate) deck rather then mono-blue  
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kiky
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2003, 10:21:39 am »

well, seldom play with trix, however in mono U, i like to play with Divert and Teferi's Response against mono B.

4 sapphire medallion always look good, but i seldom find it that useful. In Trix i think Deep Analysis is better. You draw fast to get necessary card.
btw, i will try 4 medallion in trix.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2003, 01:51:11 am »

No problem.  As much as I hate to help trix.  I am actually thinking about trying library of leng in parfait against discard.

Post your new deck list once you get it.
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