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[Anonymous]

This is my build I have been playing for about a month or so now. I have scrubed out with it and I have split for the win with it. My metagame is that there really isn't one. The field changes every week making it hard to know what to be prepaired for. The only thing you can rely on seeing is atleast 1 void, 1 ankh sligh, 1 very bad version of keeper if you can even call it that, and the rest of the field changes mono black is the most common though. So here's the deck list any help or comments are welcome.

10 Green
4 survival of the fittest
1 sylvan library
1 regrowth
1 genesis
1 druid lyrist
1 uktabi orangutan
1 quirion ranger

9 red
4 goblin welder
1 squee, goblin nabob
1 anger
1 gorilla shaman
1 dwarven blastminer
1 wheel of fortune

20 land
4 mishra's workshop
4 taiga
4 wooded foothills
3 wasteland
2 forest
1 mountains
1 strip mine
1 windswept heath

22 artifact
1 black lotus
1 mox emerald
1 mox ruby
1 mox jet
1 mox sapphire
1 mox pearl
1 sol ring
1 grim monolith
1 memory jar
1 karn silver golem
2 triskelion
3 su-chi
3 masticore
4 juggernaut

15 side board
2 bottle gnomes
1 elvish lyrist
3 compost
3 naturalize
4 red blast
1 goblin sharpshooter
1 flamtongue kavu

2 alternate
-2 red blast
+2 anarchy

[Anonymous]

Hi,
I suggest:
-1 Masticore +1 Suchi
-1 Dwarven Blastminer +1 Dwarven Miner
-1 Masticre +1 Quirion Ranger

This is just my opinion, but in general I have never found having more then 1 Masticore very useful as you can always search for one when you need it via Survival. Why would you play Dwarven Blastminer when there is Dwarven Miner?
Quirion Ranger has always been one of my favorit "Mana accelerator".

Hope this helps.
   Jamino

[j_orlove]

Quirion Ranger is nice, but I doubt he needs 2.

One card I would definitely run more of, though, is Sylvan Library. This card is absolutely INSANE in any version of TnT, since you have 8+ shuffle effects and you almost never get 3 cards you don't want. More of these would give you the consistency you seem to be lacking. You could easily cut the Regrowth for one.

I would definitely cut a masticore, maybe 2--but if you don't, throw in a second Squee, so you can use Survival AND Masticore together. Otherwise, the 'Core stops your ability to abuse Survival.

Both miners are basically inferior to Blood Moon, since in games where the miner will help, the moon will just win.

I like Blood Moon in the side, because it is ridiculous against your worst matchups (combo, control). Compost seems unnecessary since you should roll Mono-B anyway.

Also, Zherbus has a thread in the EVF about his R/G/b TnT. Adding Black wouldn't hit your wallet the way adding blue would, so you might want to consider it. Oath of Ghouls and Tutors can be nice.

[Anonymous]

I have been wanting to add a su-chi but I don't own one and have had a problem finding one. I like more masticore's due to the abillity to drop turn 1 fatty. Does running extra sylvan library actually help the deck that much?

[j_orlove]

Quote Does running extra sylvan library actually help the deck that much?

It really can. Against control, it often means 2-5 extra cards (more when they use StPs), and it usually saves you from drawing a number of worthless cards. If you have one, or can get one easily, definitely try it out.

And if you can't get a Su-Chi, I'd replace one Masticore with Phyrexian Colossus. Other TnT players have been having a lot of success with it.

I'd also definitely add that second squee, since it works well with the Masticores and makes you more resistant to graveyard hate (plus it lets you totally abuse Survival late game).

[Anonymous]

I like the idea of adding black to TnT but I am not sure it would be right for the metagame I play in. Legion as it is called I think is made for a control meta correct? If that is so all I see in my meta is aggro and more aggro (void, sligh, 10 land green, suicide/monoblack, zoo, and the rare combo of any sort) oh and oath sometimes is around. None the less I will test this legion deck list this wed. up at the weekly tourney. Although I have made some adjustments to Zherbus decklist. More than likely this is what I will play:

Creatures (16)                                                           (18)
       4 Juggernaut
       4 Su-Chi                                                                  3 su-chi
       1 Quirion Ranger
       2 Triskelion
       1 Masticore                                                          3 masticore
       1 Anger
       1 Gorilla Shaman
       1 Elvish Lyrist                                                       1 druid lyrist
       1 Uktabi Orangutan
                                                                                           1 karn, silver golem
Engine (12)                                                                   (11)
       4 Survival of the Fittest
       4 Goblin Welder
       2 Squee, Goblin Nabob                                    1 squee, goblin nabob
       2 Oath of Ghouls
Broken things (4)
       1 Demonic Tutor
       1 Vampiric Tutor
       1 Wheel of Fortune
       1 Memory Jar
Lands (28)                                                                  
       3 Wooded Foothill                                              4 wooded foothills
       2 Windswept Heath                                           1 windswept heath
       1 Grim Monolith
       2 Forest
       4 Mishra´s Workshop
       1 Strip Mine
       1 Wasteland
       4 Taiga
       3 Bayou
       1 Sol Ring
       1 Black Lotus
       1 Mox Sapphire
       1 Mox Ruby
       1 Mox Pearl
       1 Mox Jet
       1 Mox Emerald
SB:  3 Bloodmoon                                                     0 bloodmoon
SB:  3 Duress
SB:  2 Naturalize
SB:  1 Elvish Lyrist
SB:  1 Oath of Ghouls                                               0 oath of ghouls
SB:  1 Bottle Gnomes                                               2 bottle gnomes
SB:  1 Bone Shredder
SB:  3 Tormod's Crypt                                              0 tormod's crypt
                                                                                           2 red elemental blast
                                                                                           3 compost
                                                                                           1 dwarven blastminer