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Author Topic: Turbo Oath in type 1  (Read 1986 times)
Anonymous
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« on: March 09, 2003, 10:48:08 pm »

I played in a sanctioned tourney and won using this Turbo Oath deck I built. I posted it on the other post "Akroma in Oath" but got no feedback. So I was hoping for some now.

Turbo Oath:
creatures:
2 cognivore

Green:
3 Oath of druids
1 regrow
2 living wish

Blue:
4 Brainstorm
4 force of will
4 counter spell
3 misdirections
1 mana leak
4 accumulated knowledge
1 mystical tutor
1 ancestal recall
2 cuning wish
1 Fact or fiction

black:
1 demonic tutor
1 yawgmoths will

gold:
2 pernicious deed

mana:
4 mishras factory
4 tropical island
4 underground sea
4 flooded strand
1 Windswepth Heath
3 island
1 forest
1 lotus petal
1 sol ring

Sideboard:
Living wish/ Oath Creatures:
1 morphling
1 psycatog (late game tech)
2 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Masticore
1 crator hellion
1 stripmine (Maze or Library)
Cunning Wish:
1 naturalize
1 diabolic edict
1 smother
1 misdirection
1 hydroblast
1 stroke of genius
1 berserk
1 vampiric tutor

        This deck is so fun to play because it has so many ways to play it.  Its so unpredictable. At times the opponent doesnt know what to sideboard vs your creatures. The creatures are great because you can do tricks to get them out and answer your problems. Living wish is great. The cunning wish works beautifully. In almost every game I grabbed something that was key to victory. People might say that beserkis not good here I disagree.
        The deck is versitile, fun, and its different from what everyone else is playing. It handles creatures with oath. The board with deed and cunning wish. Runs great counters. Card drawing is sick. Yawgmoths is a beast in this deck. Well Im pretty sure your all sick of me rambling on so i'll end it here. See ya'll later.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2003, 12:39:43 pm »

Nice deck. Looks fun to play.
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Anonymous
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2003, 02:05:51 pm »

Intuition would be a great card to fit in.  You can really utilize the AKs with it and it will feed the cognivore.

Z
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Anonymous
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2003, 02:48:48 pm »

I have some reservations about this deck. My thoughts.

i can't see Cognivore being a competatively viable Oath creature. heres why

1: It can't self sacrifice, so you have no way of oathing for another creature if you where to run any.
2: Cognivore is open to massive creature removal, amougst them is Swords to Plowshares
3:You will be hardpushed to hard cast Cognivore if you had to.
4:Cognivore size in this deck is variable, what if you have a small Oath? All Cognivore has going for it is its fatt sometimes, surely a standard fattie would be more consistant.

Why are you:

Sideboarding both hellion and Masticore? you would only need to wish/oath for one or the Other verse agrro

Why are you Sideboarding Morphling and Akroma in addtion to Cognivore? Which Matches or situations would one have advantage over the other? The Morphling, Spike Weaver, Spike Feeder creature base would cover 90% of the situtions your other choices would. The remainer could probably be covered by the a Nishoba,feeder,feeder ( I am thinking Direct damage based decks)

I also have reservations about not running gaeas Blessing

1:With out Gaeas Blessing you have no way of Recycling Cognivore if it was destroyed.
2:Gaeas Blessing lets you resuse your fetch lands, this means you can get more land out with fewer dedicated mana slots
3:Gaeas Blessing lets you reuse your drawing and power, this is one of Oaths big strenght's
4:Cognivore can't be used alongside Blessing, since your graveyard is commonly resuffled every turn (another reason not to run Cognivore)

Living Wish surely defeats the primmary pupose of an Oath deck. Wishing ideally should be sided in for Oath against decks like Parfait, not mained decked because your oath creatures are insufficantly capable of victory.

Impulse is better than Acumulated Knowledge, even after Oathin purely since the purpose of drawing will often be to pull Oath to your hand, plus if you run Gaeas blessing as i propose the Tech behind Acumulated knowledge would be made redundant anyway.

i'd like to piont out that your mana base would take a big hit from back to basics or blood moon, or even the odd wasteland.

As for your sideboard. You have no plan for cards like Tormods Crypt or Planar void, You have no weapons for the Blue control Match, or the creatureless deck match, or a soultion to back to basics. What is a Single strip mine in the sideboard for? what match are you exactly going to side this in for?

This might be a fun deck to play but its certainly got alongway to go to be Tournement worthy. I know i my have ripped your deck alittle but hopely you will find my advice usefull
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Anonymous
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2003, 07:32:41 pm »

Hey QUEEQUEG listen here. This should bring justice to the court.
Creatures:
I use Cognivore as my first option. Its a quick kill. I never had problems with its size and dont you know most people run instants. As for vulnerability thats fine. Tog is vulnerable but it still whoops every bodies ass right. Thats why living wish is here for that reason and against combo decks.
Masticore: Good early. If I know theyre running a lot of creatures I can grab him with living wish and hard cast him.
Crator Hellion: Good when late in the game. Living wish for it-brainstorm to put it on top-oath it out for a wrath of god.
Morphling: against swords and other control
Akroma vs Red and Black decks its unstoppable.
Psycatog is great late game I can hard cast him and swing once.

Geas blessing is not good here man. I oath and have Accumulated knowledge in the grave. I AK for tons. AK is incredible in this deck. As for reusing stuff, Yawgmoths and regrow are good for that.

Mana:
I never had mana problems. Back to basics and bloodmoon dont scare me when I run 3 Islands and 1 Forest with the 4 blue fetcys and a green fetch.

Sideboard:
Did you even stop and notice. I RUN PERNICIOUS DEED MAINDECK. Every thing else can be handled with cunning wish.

It is a completly different style of oath compared to the original. Not every oath deck has to run 2 Geas blessings, Morphling, Spike weaver and feeder. Its a new age. New cards like Living Wish allow you to do new things buddy!!!
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Anonymous
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2003, 11:21:26 am »

> 2: Cognivore is open to massive creature removal, amougst them is Swords to Plowshares

Heh. My opponent's Swords my Cognivore off the table and I can grab it with Living wish


> 3:You will be hardpushed to hard cast Cognivore if you had to.

My Cognivore in-hand and Oath on the table are a combo with your Brainstorm in-hand.
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j_orlove
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2003, 03:28:09 pm »

Your sideboard is basically all one-ofs. Won't this hurt your ability to compete in game 2&3 of difficult matchups?

Also, why do you need so many oath creatures? Wouldn't it make more sense to cut a few of the ones you don't need as much, and put in some useful cards?

Also, Woodripper is nice with Oath, and Intuition is nice with AK.  


Edit: I like how you post your deck to ask for "opinions", and then either debate or ignore what everyone says. We aren't here to listen to you explain how with cards A, B, and C you can win in situation X. We're here to help improve your deck, and until you're ready to work with us on that, I don't know why you even bother posting here.  
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Anonymous
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2003, 03:42:11 pm »

it seems to me you are running a suboptiumal/off the wall design just to be different.

if i could adress the court, this is my piont in a nutshell.

A main decked morphling can cater for 90% of the kill situations that would likely encounter in a mixed metagame, whilst the remaining defenisve situations can be cover by the usal trio.

You are in comibation of main deck and sideboard running 10 cards (6 of which are sideboard slots) which are covered by the proven and tested trio of the stanadard oath. Only 1 of theses 10 is effective against control (Morphling) the remaining 7 are primmarily competative only verse aggro stratergies which are massively favourable matchs without needing  to side for it also.

These remaining 7 slots in convetional Oath are used to make hard control matches viable, an important advantage you have lost by the nature of your deck.

Thats all the input i have take from it what you want
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Anonymous
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2003, 09:25:23 pm »

Thanks for the imput but I think its fine the way it is. I do very well vs the field. I beat parfait, mono-blue and aggro in the only tourney used it in. The only deck I havnt played yet is keeper. And most people I know judge my decks rather harshly but they actually like this build. I dont know, its all opinion.
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