Like many people I have no power but that didnt stop me f...

[Anonymous]

Like many people I have no power but that didnt stop me from making deck that need power....like Rector Trix. The deck does not go off as fast or as consistant. But the weird thing is...I have beaten GAT and Kepper 2-1 which was weird. But mostly becuase each game I got Bargin out quickly. With out the power I changed the deck around alot.

Kill
4 Academy Rector
4 Illusions of Grandeur
4 Donate ( with out power 2 more seemed right)

Other
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Bargin
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy (work great with Academy Rector)
4 Force of Will
1 Lim-dul's Vault(works great with bagrin and Necro)
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Grim Monolith
3 Brianstorm
4 Dark Ritual
1 Rushing River
1 Balance

Lands
1 Tolarian Academy ( really thinking of taking this out)
4 Polluted delta
4 Underground Sea
2 Scrubland
2 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Island



Without power i could make rrom for 4 Donates...if i had power i would still probably play 4 Donates..its seems kind scary only have 2 in the deck. Everything else is pretty self explanitory replay with your thoughts.

[SummenSaugen]

What on earth is Academy doing in a deck with three artifacts, especially when only one is free?

[Anonymous]

Why are you replacing power with donates?  When you bargain, you'll just have more donates and still no way to cast them.  

Mox Diamond wants in on that action.

Hell, even Lotus Petal wants a piece.

If you throw in a despotic scepter and a scroll rack, possibly more than one of either, academy starts to make more sense.  As does your decklist.

Hope this helps

-=ADAM=-

[Anonymous]

Seems to me like the best thing for this deck is Helm of Awakening.  If you want the Petal / Diamond, go for it, but I would never play with more than 2 Donates and 3 Illusions.  Cut some stuff for Force of Will, man!
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Oops, you have Forces, nm.\n\n

[Anonymous]

Yea....I really should of added that I was getting petal and diamond later on....I just read off my list. The only reason I would play 4 Donates is im scared of having to Force with Donate in emergencys. Helms....really??......I dunno....I can see where it would help alot but what would I take out.

[MoreFling]

Are you sure Therapy works great with Rector? You'd have to sac your 20-turn clock dude!

And how does 1 match against either GAT or Keeper prove anything?

Can we PLEASE stop these unpowered rector trix threads, since it DOES NOT work in any half-serious enviroment. I too, can beat up your little brother with ANY deck.

[Puschkin]

Right comment in the wrong forum, MoreFling. Please come up with arguments why it does not work. I know this is tedious but you have the other option to leave the thread alone and let it die. If there are enough redundant threads of the same topic, they get closed anyway.\n\n

[Anonymous]

I would love to see MoreFling prove that unpowered trix cant win...I happend to do very good with it and it happends to be very consistant with 5 turn....so.....im waiting for proof.

[SummenSaugen]

5th turn is ridiculously slow.  Most aggro rolls over you by then, let alone control stabilizing and other combo comboing you out.  One of the advantages of Rectal Trix is that it can Berserk Murlodent you (re:  come for your nuts) in very early turns.  Turn five isn't early.  Most games are decided before then anyhow (even control vs control - who wins the counterwar over ancestral tends to dictate the victor)

[Anonymous]

Still waiting MoreFling...

[Anonymous]

@Puschkin heh, I read it. I love how smash always gets the blame, my reputation proceeds me



Unpowered trix still had to be one of the better unpowered combo decks.. with no turboland anymore. Don't bash the poor people

[Anonymous]

wat to say I know I put I am Superma instead of Superman.

Smash puts a good point up think of all he decks that need power if you take it away the deck sucks but rector trix still puts up a good fight.

[PhOeNiX]

That deck is a mess...

Do you really need four Donates? It seems pretty high to me. You would rather be drawing more 'business' spells than more Donates. Although your financial situation makes it way too risky to run two, I think three will be a fine number for you.

Your running WAY to little mana acceleration. You not having Power is no excuse to be going after Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, and Mox Diamond.

Your mana base is pretty ugly too. As mentioned earlier, Academy isn't nearly as effective in a deck that has hardly any artifacts. Even if you do add Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, and Mox Diamond, the Academy is still pretty sketchy.

Do you really need those Strip and Wastes in a combo deck? I think you should be more worried about gathering more mana than dealing with your opponent's.

Islands? I know Blood Moon is evil but that doesn't change the fact that your deck needs WHITE and BLACK mana as quickly as possible. Perhaps adding more Fetchlands instead?

You should also look into City of Traitors. You will need the mana acceleration and the City couldn't hurt.

Honestly, I cannot see an unpowered version of Rector Trix do well in a competitive metagame. More than likely, even if you do get a Yawgmoth's Bargain on the table, you will have to wait another turn or two to cast the combo because I see no possible way of you bringing out Yawgmoth's Bargain, Illusions of Grandeur, and then casting Donate in the same turn.

I have to agree with Morefling here. The lack of power makes the deck MUCH slower and as a result of that, it cannot compete with good decks. Please don't make comments like "I beat GaT and Keeper 2-1! OMG liek WTF!!!11!!" It doesn't tell us much other than the probable skill of these players and/or the possibility that they were running really bad versions of the deck.

I applaud your efforts trying to assemble an unpowered version of the deck, but the fact that it is severely impeded without P10 doesn't bode well for the deck if it were to play in a competitive field.

You can either try your best to make the deck as optimal as it can become without Power by listening to the suggestions that have be given on this thread. Or you can do what I would do if I were in your situation - try MonoU Trix. There, you at least have Sapphire Medallions and Mana Drains to make up for the lack of Moxen.

[MoreFling]

@the original poster: I'm not about to explain myself further.

It's not worth it. If you want, we can hook up sometime and I'll smash your face in. Any time, any day.

[Anonymous]

Wow, there is a lot of hate floating around.  But how would this deck do in a teir 2 enviroment(1 or 2 moxes a deck, the abyss, moat, the level below full on power 9/10)?  That is what this guys seems to play, i play and am sure many other ppl unpowered t1.  So how would it do?

[Rebel428]

Note: this is from someone who actually TRIED playing it without a full set of Moxen (I only own three, and no Lotus).

Without a full set of Moxen and Lotus to cast spells with after casting Bargain, you will often be unable to win the turn Bargain comes into powered version could.  This WILL cost you games, even against aggro like Sligh.  Also, if you don't draw a rector, you probably won't have enough mana to hard-cast the combo quickly.  In addition, though this is less significant, I've found Ancestral to  often be a life-saver when I don't draw a Rector in my opening hand.

If you want, here is the decklist I used.  It is capable of third-turn wins on a decent hand.  I've taken out what power I had and made the necessary changes.

//NAME: Rector Trix
        1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
        1 Necropotence
        4 Academy Rector
        3 Illusions of Grandeur
        3 Donate
        4 Duress
        4 Cabal Therapy
        4 Force of Will
        4 Brainstorm
        2 Lim-Dul's Vault
        1 Yawgmoth's Will
        1 Demonic Tutor
        4 Dark Ritual
        1 Mana Crypt
        1 Mana Vault
        1 Sol Ring
        1 Grim Monolith
        4 City of Brass
        4 Gemstone Mine
        4 Polluted Delta
        4 Underground Sea
        4 Scrubland

[Akuma (gio)]

I think unpowered Rector Trix is viable in a metagame comprised of sub par decks  

[Anonymous]

Rector trix can work unpowered.

The problem is that when you get bargain out you have to wait a full turn. You have to untap your 3-4 lands becuase that is what turn it is. Play your 4th or 5th land. Then draw your cards down to 4 life, so you have the ability to vamp to find a combo/seal or rushing river, becuase your opponent is going to have 2-3 turns to deal you lethal damage.

The combo works, but is far to slow to be competitive.

Mike D

[PhOeNiX]

I'm not refuting the fact that it works unpowered. What I'm trying to say is that it is severly impeded without Power.

I have no doubt in my mind that this cannot compete in a competitive metagame, but if he's playing in a field with a lot of subpar and slow decks, then it's not too bad...

[saun585]

@ Rebel428

Just a small question, Why no lotus petal.  It works only once, but since you combo out you could win easier.  And by the way, i tested your decklist without the Lim-vault with a Ancestral recall* and lotus petal in place of it and it worked very well.

* i know this is for unpowered, but if you got it, use it!

[PhOeNiX]

Yeah. I just noticed that too. Maybe it was just a mistake

You really need those free Blue sources when going off :/

[Cathulu]

this isn't really bad but take the academy out and put in mox diamond

[PhOeNiX]

Way to revive old topics!

[aznflict]

ugh, sorry for reviving old topics, but i'm really interested in an unpowered rector-trix deck, and i don't see any topics of the same subject.

So, after all the debating, what is the optimal unpowered rector-trix setup?  post-mirrodin, and yes, my metagame is slow and sub-par, so winning won't be THAT big of a challenge.

[BreathWeapon]

There is a post on the boards concerning U/B Trix with Spoils that seems reasonably fast, even without power. I'd go with that.

Rector Trix is sub optimal in comparison to Burning Rectal Agony AkA Rector/Long.dec in speed for unpowered environments. If you want to Donate/Illusions for style, nobody is gonna hold you back ... but its outdated by better combo decks.