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aznflict
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« on: December 02, 2003, 08:37:24 am » |
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So far, I've been running this build of Rector-Trix, my personal preference, and I just need some help.
Rector-Bargain
Spells – 41 cards
4x Duress – Urza’s Saga 4x Cabal Therapy – Judgment 4x Dark Ritual – Mercadian Masques 4x Brainstorm – Mercadian Masques 4x Force of Will – Alliances 3x Illusions of Grandeur – Ice Age 2x Donate – Urza’s Destiny 1x Ancestral Recall – Unlimited 1x Rushing River – Planeshift 1x Time Walk – Unlimited 1x Vampiric Tutor – Visions 1x Demonic Tutor – Revised 1x Necropotence – Ice Age 1x Yawgmoth's Bargain – Urza’s Destiny 1x Yawgmoth's Will – Urza’s Saga 1x Balance – 4th Edition 1x Mox Jet – Unlimited 1x Mox Pearl – Unlimited 1x Mox Sapphire – Unlimited 1x Mox Ruby – Unlimited 1x Black Lotus – Unlimited 1x Sol Ring – Revised 1x Mana Crypt – Promotional
Creatures – 4 cards
4x Academy Rector – Urza’s Destiny
Lands – 15 cards
4x Underground Sea – Revised 3x Scrubland – Revised 3x Gemstone Mine – Weatherlight 2x Flooded Strand – Onslaught 2x Polluted Delta – Onslaught 1x Tolarian Academy – Urza’s Saga
Sideboard – 15 cards
4x Hypnotic Specter – 4th Edition 4x Phyrexian Negator – Urza’s Destiny 3x Powder Keg – Urza’s Destiny 2x Hurkyll's Recall – 5th Edition 2x Seal of Cleansing – Nemesis
With the maindeck, my only concern is (a.) sometimes I don't draw enough mana sources to get out Rector quickly enough, and (b.) Balance maindeck. I really like Balance, but about 50% of the time, it just sits in my hand, dead. I'm thinking of replacing Balance with (a.) Aura of Silence, (b.) Future Sight, (c.) Mind Over Matter, or (d.) Dream Halls. Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Also, my mana base is solid, I think, but it sometimes gets stalled, for a long time, just because I don't have the right mana for Rector, etc. Any suggestions?
Also, my SB is garbage, I just threw it together really quick. Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Gilberry
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2003, 02:05:30 pm » |
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You could add a Mana Vault, Chrome Mox and a Lotus Petal (this is a good, underestimated, card in many decks) to help with getting the rector out. For more mana I would:
-2 Gemstone mine +1 Mana vault +1 Lotus Petal
Future Sight, Mind Over Matter, and Dream Halls are a little too expensive in this deck. If you don't need the balance put an abeyance or swords of plowshers (good vs dragon) in the deck.
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aznflict
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2003, 02:12:22 pm » |
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what do you think of cunning wish in here? abeyance, swords, rushing river, misdirection, disenchant, etc. are all good wish targets.
also, with the large casting cost enchantments, i was thinking more of rectoring them out.
hmm.... cutting gemstones. interesting.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2003, 02:23:17 pm » |
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Balance isn't a bad card by any meens MD in Rector, but a combo oriented card like Future Sight or Demonic Consultation may be the better move. Its tough to let go of the brokenness of Balance and Mindtwist MD, but thats life.
In regards to the manabase, you may want to up the City/Gemstone/Glimmer count to provide you with more White Mana. It will weaken Brainstorm, but not by much. It will also allow you to consider using Xantid Swarms SB.
All in all, you may want to investigate a fully powered version of Spoils Trix instead of Rector/Trix. Dragon hate will soon be at an all time high, which hits Rector by default. Rector based Trix doesn't seem to be the way to go right now.
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Gilberry
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2003, 02:38:43 pm » |
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Quote also, with the large casting cost enchantments, i was thinking more of rectoring them out. You could but usually you don't have that many rectors to start out with, and after you get Yawgmoth's Bargain into play you often have the game. The expensive enchantments might be overkill. Cutting the gemstones would allow you get more mana in on turn 1 and 2. If white mana is a problem more flooded strands and polluted deltas can really help. The gemstones aren't fetchable and often don't last when the game is harder.
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aznflict
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2003, 03:44:14 pm » |
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see, i'm thinking of replacing 1x necropotence with 1x future sight. while necro is easier to hardcast, it just isn't fast enough for me. while future sight is almost always gonna be rectored out, it serves a better purpose (card advantage), and doesn't eat away at valuable bargain fuel, necro does.
also, what do you think of cunning wish? it can get misdirection, rushing river, abeyance, swords, etc...
yeah, the manabase needs some work
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Moxlotus
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2003, 07:26:31 pm » |
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Cunning Wish is way too slow for the deck. It costs 3 to play it and then mana to play the spell. What would make you need to do that? I would just focus on killing your opponent as fast as possible. Besides with 4 Duress, cabal therapy, and FoW-you have enough answers to threats so i think Cunning wish doesn't have a home in this deck.
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Wolven
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2003, 09:47:29 pm » |
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Hey guys, I've played Trix for quite a time before I moved on to Tendrils so I think I have some experience with the Deck. The main thing I'm thinking is that this deck could easily play 4 Spoils of the Vault, especially when you have Illusions down. It's even possible to replace cards such as Future Sight/ Necro etc. with the spoils. This would definately give the deck a more combo feel and also, I think, speed it up.
So what do you guys think?
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Moxlotus
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2003, 10:03:59 pm » |
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I think that could be worth a try. Cheap tutoring is good. Lifeloss is neglible with Illusions
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Smash
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2003, 02:14:54 am » |
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NO. Life is precious. Get a rector out, use that to crap out a bargain, draw entire deck and win.
If you cost yourself 10 life or whatever to get the bargain out... it is pointless. And you can't (shouldn't) spoils for a donate only playing 2 of them.
It wins on like turn 3 after playing multiple duress effects and have FoW backup... that is just how it works. If you want to play spoils, you will do much better to move it into dragon or such.
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aznflict
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2003, 07:39:48 am » |
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ok, so no cunning wish. what do you guys think about MD balance? about 50% that i do draw it, it's either (a.) a dead draw, cuz i'm already cruising to victory, or (b.) a dead draw, cuz i'm already cruising to victory. There's only been one time where it saved me, and that was after getting raped by a vicious sui-black opening hand.
what do you guys think of future sight in place of necro? necro is just way too slow in trying to fill bargain's spot, and it eats away at life, which you should be saving for bargain. future sight, imo, is (a.) seal of cleansing bait (b.) pitchable to FoW, which Necro is not (c.) in this deck, just as good as necro. imo.
any SB suggestions?
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MoreFling
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2003, 07:51:49 am » |
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I would run beta dark rituals over masques (unless they are asian foils!). Style is the next step in the mising process!
in all seriousness, Rector-Trix was shaky before long was invented, and rector tendrils is just THAT much better. Also, I think Rector is dangerous regardless, since it suffers a lot of damage from all the Dragon-hate I'd expect to see.
But well, if this is what you wanna play, who am I to say no...
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aznflict
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2003, 10:35:09 am » |
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this is what i have so far, i've cut necro for future sight, and haven't really missed it at all.
Rector-Bargain
Spells – 41 cards
4x Duress – Urza’s Saga 4x Cabal Therapy – Judgment 4x Dark Ritual – Mercadian Masques 4x Brainstorm – Mercadian Masques 4x Force of Will – Alliances 3x Illusions of Grandeur – Ice Age 2x Donate – Urza’s Destiny 1x Ancestral Recall – Unlimited 1x Rushing River – Planeshift 1x Future Sight – Onslaught 1x Misdirection – Mercadian Masques 1x Time Walk – Unlimited 1x Vampiric Tutor – Visions 1x Demonic Tutor – Revised 1x Yawgmoth's Bargain – Urza’s Destiny 1x Yawgmoth's Will – Urza’s Saga 1x Mox Jet – Unlimited 1x Mox Pearl – Unlimited 1x Mox Sapphire – Unlimited 1x Mox Ruby – Unlimited 1x Black Lotus – Unlimited 1x Sol Ring – Revised 1x Mana Crypt – Promotional
Creatures – 4 cards
4x Academy Rector – Urza’s Destiny
Lands – 15 cards
4x Underground Sea – Revised 4x Scrubland – Revised 2x Gemstone Mine – Weatherlight 2x Flooded Strand – Onslaught 2x Polluted Delta – Onslaught 1x Tolarian Academy – Urza’s Saga
Sideboard – 15 cards
4x Phyrexian Negator – Urza’s Destiny 3x Hypnotic Specter – 4th Edition 2x Powder Keg – Urza’s Destiny 2x Hurkyll's Recall – 5th Edition 2x Seal of Cleansing – Nemesis 1x Balance – 4th Edition 1x Necropotence – Ice Age
i just threw in balance (put in misdirection) and necropotence (put in future sight) in the SB, still not sure about it.
How does the maindeck look? I added in +1 Scrubland, -1 Gemstone Mine.
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