I've always liked the style off the Lich deck. ...

[aznflict]

I've always liked the style off the Lich deck.  I understand that Turbo-Lich is NOT for a competitive field.  I just wanted a current decklist (post Mirrodin) that would be the optimal build for a casual game with a few friends.  I mean, I'm sure we ALL have a few decks that we LOVE to play, not because it's the best, but because it's the most fun.

[Razor]

Goldfish posted a competitive Turbo-Lich list back in the spring of 2003 I believe.  However, since you're not seeking a competitive list there is really no way to determine the optimum and standard list.  I would think you want to have fun as opposed to just Comboing out and killing them with Mirror Universe.

Brainstorming fun things to do:

Stifling your Lich in response to their Disenchant...or Stifling your Dreadnoughts CIP.

Ebonblade Reapers could be fun to win with critters...

Convalescent Care = lotta cards

Illusions of Grandeur = lotta cards, faster than with Necro [Donate for kill?]

Zuran Orb for drawing?\n\n

[aznflict]

do you know where goldfish posted that decklist?

[aznflict]

found goldfish's decklist

decklist by Goldfish ( mar-2003 )

1x Glacial Chasm
1x Bazaar of Baghdad
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Tolarian Academy
1x Crosis's Catacombs
1x Darigaaz's Caldera
1x Undiscovered Paradise
1x Tundra
4x Underground Sea
4x Tropical Island
4x City of Brass
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Sol Ring
1x Mirror Universe
1x Mana Crypt
1x Scroll Rack
1x Overgrown Estate
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Lich
4x Duress
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Frantic Search*
3x Brainstorm
3x Intuition
1x Windfall
1x Time Walk
1x Timetwister
1x Time Spiral
1x Fastbond
1x Reclaim
1x Regrowth
1x City of Solitude
1x Wheel of Fortune
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Replenish
1x Pursuit of Knowledge

SB:  1 Cursed Totem
SB:  2 Hydroblast
SB:  2 Red Elemental Blast
SB:  2 Pyroclasm (Specter, Shaman)
SB:  1 Seal of Cleansing
SB:  1 Circle of Protection: Black
SB:  1 Circle of Protection: Red
SB:  3 Annul (Stacker)
SB:  2 slots free

what changes do you guys think need to be made for today's meta, post b/r list, and post mirrodin?  i have a little ideas...

[Razvan]

Quote Stifling your Dreadnoughts CIP.

The Dreadnought doesn't have a come into play ability. It is just an extra cost of playing the spell. It cannot be stifled.

[The Master]

Phyrexian Dreadnought
Artifact Creature
Trample
If Phyrexian Dreadnought would come into play, sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater instead. If you do, put Phyrexian Dreadnought into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard instead.
12/12

[Razvan]

Quote Phyrexian Dreadnought
Color= Artifact
Type= Artifact Creature
Cost= 1
MI®
Text (MI+errata): 12/12, Trample. ; If ~this~ would come into play, sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater instead. If you do, put ~this~ into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.[Oracle 2000/02/01]

You have to sacrifice creatures right before it comes into play by any means. This is not a play cost. It is done during the resolution of whatever brings it into play. [D'Angelo 1999/07/29]

No CIP. BEFORE it comes into play.

[Charlie Yu]

Just another Intuition-Replenish combo. If so why not just play 21?

[aznflict]

cuz turbo-lich has way more style.  also, it isn't solely built for intuiton-replensih, although that's ONE possiblity of how to win with turbo-lich.