Evil Genius
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« on: December 06, 2003, 06:14:08 pm » |
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Hey everyone, i'm new to TMD and was looking for a little help with my deck:
Land: 8 Swamps 4 Bayou 4 Bloodstained Mire 3 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine
Creatures: 4 Hypnotic Specter 4 Nantuko Shade 2 Withered Wretch 1 Masticore
Non-Creatures: 4 Pernicious Deed 4 Duress 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Vampiric Tutor 4 Unearth 1 Necropotence 1 Mind Twist 4 Sinkhole 4 Dark Ritual 1 Demonic Tutor 4 Hymn to Tourach
Sideboard: 1 Spiritmonger 4 Tormod's Crypt 2 Terror 4 Contagion 4 Phyrexian Negator
Basically, i use the duress/hymn/mind twist for hand control. Pernicious Deed for board control, with Unearth to get back Shades and Specters. Necropotence for hand replenshment and to keep cards to discard to Masticore. Withered Wretch for graveyard control. I've already won a small t1 tournament with the deck as it is, but i'm really looking to make this as good as possible. My biggest problems right now are with sligh
12/9 Modifications: Sideboard: -4 Contagion -2 Terror -2 Phrexian Neagtor +4 Chalice of the Void +4 Spinning Darkness
Chalice and Spinning Darkness help against sligh and also aggro. With the current meta in Montana they are also probably the best choices, I also play in Chicago when i'm not in school, so in that case i usually MD Cabal Therapy rather than masticore and mind twist
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2003, 06:42:15 pm » |
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It looks like you try to make your deck deal with aggro. Traditionally, sui has not been a good deck choice in a predominantly aggro-based meta (area with a lot of creature based decks). I can sort of see how you try to make it good vs aggro by removing negators, maindecking pernicious deeds, and even a masticore. However, if you are stuck on playing this deck even after realizing it isn't great for your area of play, I do not think the choices you have made are actually the best ones to combat aggro. Chalice is basically a godsend for suicide black and will improve your aggro matchups a ton. You can take out masticore, the deeds, and hypnotic specters and return to negators. I would recommend upping the wretch count to 4. 4th wasteland is a must. All in all, a good choice to help bring your deck up to the highest tier of competition that it can take you, I would try a splash of red for blood moon and rack and ruin mainly, which improve a lot of matchups.
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TheCowWithHat
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2003, 10:02:01 pm » |
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Your deck looks powerfull but you fail to mention anything about your metagame. This means that you can't get certain types of information. Contrary to popular beleif suicide black and 90% of "decks" aren't decks at all they are deckbuilding strategies. Your deck revolves around card advantage via hand diruption and board sweepers such as pernicious deed and masticore. Your suicide strategy seem to be correct but if you truly wish to gain a powerful deck that you can take to a tournament and try to win with, you must a least give a small description of your environment's decks.
EDIT: Some of your card choices reflect an enivorment with alot of aggro. If you wish to continue to use suicide black an extremely powerfull card choice is as Crater Hellion suggested Chalice of the Void.
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Montana_Gamer
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2003, 10:15:35 am » |
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I am in his enviroment and recently I have been playing hulk smash. Although we could have at any one tournament.
Hulk Smash madness stasis the deck void W/mud dragon TnT Sligh zoo tier 1/2 extended decks with basic type 1 stuff added in, like tutors, sol ring, etc.... and random aggro
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Haksaw
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2003, 12:30:16 pm » |
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I think that a strong argument could be made for substitution of Cabal Therapy into your build...possibly:
+3 Cabal Therapy/-1 Masticore,-1 Mind Twist,-1 Duress
There's real synergy with Cabal Therapy, as you're mainboarding Unearth, Masticore can't be the target of an Unearth, so once in the graveyard, he's there to stay. Without a Black Lotus or Moxen to power an early Mind Twist, it'll most often be for 3 on turn 2 (2 lands, Dark Ritual), where the same mana play could lead to Cabal Therapy + BBB, and you've got threats that translate into severe advantage on your side with BBB.
Masticore is a beatstick, but at the sacrifice of a card a turn (that you'd rather be clearing your opponents hand with), I think that Shade, Specters and Wretch should be able to generate the damage for kill in any deck but Goblin Sligh...(where you're screwed anyway) Necropotence can give him food, but I'm more of a "Control Sui" player.
The 3 Duress is countered by the ability to grab any non-Land card, and ALL copies.
Annnnnndddd...I'm spent
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