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RidiculousHat
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« on: December 13, 2003, 05:25:33 pm »

I've been looking for post-ban deck that doesn't run 4 Bazaars/Workshops/Mana Drains and after testing TPS for a little while, I ran into this spicy little number on the regular vintage forum:

// white
       4 Academy Rector
// blue
       1 Ancestral Recall
       1 Time Walk
       1 Mind's Desire
       1 Windfall
       1 Timetwister
       4 Brainstorm
// red
       1 Wheel of Fortune
       4 Gamble
// black
       4 Cabal Therapy
       4 Dark Ritual
       1 Demonic Consultation
       1 Demonic Tutor
       4 Duress
       1 Necropotence
       1 Tendrils of Agony
       1 Vampiric Tutor
       1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
       1 Yawgmoth's Will
// mana
       4 Gemstone Mine
       3 Glimmervoid
       4 City of Brass
       1 Black Lotus
       1 Lion's Eye Diamond
       1 Lotus Petal
       1 Mana Crypt
       1 Chrome Mox
       1 Mana Vault
       1 Mox Diamond
       1 Mox Emerald
       1 Mox Sapphire
       1 Mox Jet
       1 Mox Ruby
       1 Mox Pearl

The build needs tweaking but I like the idea of both Rector and Long being combined in the same deck to circumvent a good amount of hate.

Here are some cards that I think could have a place in the deck:
-Sol Ring
Obviously enough. I consider this a careless omission rather than something that was purposely excluded from the deck.
-Tolarian Academy
I'm not sure if this should be included considering how many colors are required, but the massive amount of mana may be worth it.
-Tinker/Memory Jar
Another draw 7 or two never hurts, but two cards is a lot.  I could definitely see squeezing it in over the Desire but Desire is good enough by itself...
-Mystical Tutor
I think this should be in here, but without Chromatic Spheres the only thing left as cantrips are Brainstorms and the lone Ancestral.
-Burning Wish
This should probably be in here to help fetch Tendrils, a game 1 answer to Chalice/Sphere/Pillar, or just to get a Diminishing Returns out of the board.

Questionable cards:
-Demonic Consultation
I think that this should be cut without question-- there's too many singles that could completely screw you if removed and it's really just Rector #5.
-Gamble
While I do like these for getting Therapies, I could definitely see cutting these for more consistent tutors/more draw power.  These could easily become Tinker/Jar/Mystical/Wish or could even provide room maindeck for additional utility such as Hurkyl's Recall or another Tendrils.

The current revision I'm working with changed the decklist as so:
-1 Demonic Consultation
-1 Brainstorm
+1 Burning Wish
+1 Sol Ring

It seems to get turn 2 kills rather consistently.  Overall, I think a hybrid between Rector and TPS could be powerful and redundant enough to be a force in January.  Then again, I'm only a lowly newb-- what do YOU think?
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Hunted Wumpus
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2003, 05:32:08 pm »

I think that some drains would give you an edge. This deck looks solid, however needs to be able to say "No" to game threating spells. Perhaps not, just my input
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SMR0079
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2003, 06:34:58 pm »

Check out the latest thread on TPS in the Vintage forum.  I have been tooling around with this build for a while now and have recently tried adding the rectors.

The negative aspects of using the rectors
1) With Dragon at the top of the meta sideboards have a full compliment of graveyard hate.  This is probally the single biggest reason to go pure TPS without any rectors.

2) You end up losing a few buisness spells and sometimes the rectors are dead weight in your hand.  It is extremley difficult to keep both Cabal Therapy/Duress/FOW while running draw sevens and search.  I'm trying out Cabal Therapy with no duress as FOW is neccessary when going second these days.

On the positive side rectors add consistency to a deck which would stall out frequently.  You are almost gurenteed a secured third turn win every game, with turn two wins quite consistently being slightly less protected.  This deck does not go balls to the wall like Long did but has more resiliency.

The sideboard is something I'm having difficulty with.  I'm trying to fit in Xantid swarms, Dragon hate, and burning wish targets.

My feeling is that pure TPS will prevail over builds that use Rector due to the abundance of graveyard hate.  Only testing and time will tell.

Sean
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