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Author Topic: It is an old and pretty much useless debate, nevertheless...  (Read 7747 times)
skycreatoR
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« on: December 14, 2003, 10:48:11 am »

It is an old and pretty much useless debate, nevertheless it is fun and some cards always pop up again and again.

But I think I finally found _the_ worst rare/u1:

Aysen Highway
Enchantment - Homelands
3WWW
All white creatures gains plainswalk.

Am i wrong, or is this just the worst card ever? It could easily kill you in a single turn. And 6 mana ? Dude Razz

Aysen Highway is as far from  as
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BrokenDeck
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2003, 11:42:47 am »

If it can kill you in a single turn, it means your opponent is playing white.  Which means your creaturese are no longer blockable either.  Therefore you get to kill your opponent first.
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Dr. Sylvan
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2003, 12:04:48 pm »

I am the proud owner of two Sorrow's Path and a lone, unstoppably broken Pale Moon. =(

I cannot decide which of them is the worstest.
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skycreatoR
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2003, 12:19:29 pm »

Quote from: BrokenDeck+Dec. 14 2003,11:42
Quote (BrokenDeck @ Dec. 14 2003,11:42)If it can kill you in a single turn, it means your opponent is playing white.  Which means your creaturese are no longer blockable either.  Therefore you get to kill your opponent first.
Yet, they have to be playing white of some sort to make the card have any effect. And furthermore, when will you pay 6 mana, whereof 3 is colored to get plainswalk, in any possible deck ?
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2003, 12:26:37 pm »

the parfait mirror when you each have 20 pegasi out, the turn you're going to attack of course.
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Ephraim
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2003, 01:08:34 pm »

I think that Sorrow's Path is the winner, here. Aysen Highway has a rather simple condition that makes it good. You have enough damage to kill your opponent, if only all of your white creatures could get through, and your opponent is playing plains.

I can describe that in a lengthy, but clear sentence. I can barely imagine the situation that would be required to make good use of Sorrow's Path's ability, let alone describe it in a comprehensible way.
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Hi-Val
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2003, 01:10:57 pm »

Highway is pretty l33t with Opalescence though. And it has plainswalk!
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BuboniC
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2003, 01:29:27 pm »

How about carnival of Souls? It basically reads: 1B, you lose the game against aggro. I mean any big humongous fatty can be in sneak attack or reanimator, but this nthing is all out bad, or what about Trap Digger?
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Godot
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2003, 02:56:14 pm »

Quote
Quote Am i wrong, or is this just the worst card ever? It could easily kill you in a single turn. And 6 mana ? Dude Razz

Its far from the worst card ever.  This type of thing was just par for the course in Homelands.

As for Trap Digger, I've actually found that thing somewhat useful in sealed/draft.

Its been discussed over and over again, but Im sorry, there is no debate.   Even though it can generate infinite life/damage when combined with 10 other cards, Sorrows Path is still the absolute worst. card. evar.
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Flurp™
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2003, 03:08:17 pm »

I think that Didgeridoo has been overlooked.

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Didgeridoo         1

Artifact           Homelands

3: Put a Minotaur card from your hand into play.

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Beat that!
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Dr. Sylvan
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2003, 03:31:56 pm »

Flurp, you forget that there actually are Minotaurs to use Didigeroo with. My head hurts when I try to imagine a useful situation for Sorrow's Path. Carnival of Souls is another conspiracy from acetominophen manufacturers, but at least there *are* uses for black mana.

We are all missing the crucial awesomeness of bands-with-other lands from Legends.
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Flurp™
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2003, 03:41:30 pm »

NO USE FOR SORROW'S PATH?

C'mon my Sorrow's Path/Bubble Matrix deck could beat you any day.
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Godot
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2003, 03:47:30 pm »

Digeridoo + Artificial Evolution = Cheap Imitation Illusionary Mask  
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Flurp™
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2003, 03:59:47 pm »

Damn, you found a use for it......


Well Sorrow's Path can be useful also:

Lets say you play sorrow's path, your opponent will be so shocked that they will make multipal play errors, resulting in a win.
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Veriest1
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2003, 05:43:51 pm »

Sorrows Path + Donate + Rishaden Port = Mad T3k against all those pesky elf decks....
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three11rules
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2003, 05:55:38 pm »

Well, im not sure that anything can compare to Sorrow's Path, but what the hell is Sapphire Leech useful for? Or any of the leeches for that matter?
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Godot
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2003, 06:34:18 pm »

pshaw...there are better sorrows path combos than donate and rishadan port...behold, from my post in hte last thread about the worst card ever

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Quote
Upon further review I'd like to rescind my initial statement that Sorrows Path is the worst card ever printed.  It combos too well with other stuff to be considered the worst card ever.  Just think about this:

i) Any infinite creature combo, lets just say Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft

ii) 2 Additional untapped creatures that dont have summoning sickness

iii) Your opponent to have two untapped creatures that s/he'll  block with

iv) Living Plane + Sorrows Path + Spirit Link

BAM!!!  As simple as that you get (2 * X) + 2 life
Where X is the number of creatures.
Throw in a Test of Endurance and you can win the game automatically on your next turn.  Thats only 10 cards for an almost guaranteed win!

its really too bad earthcraft is restricted  
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Necrologia
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2003, 06:40:06 pm »

Well Jade Leech was playable in Fires for a while, but the Blue, and White Leechs are really, really awful.

Alpha had some pretty amazingly bad rares though. Purelace anyone? How about the rare island? That's playable but kinda painful to pull over say, a Mox or something.
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Flurp™
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2003, 06:45:33 pm »

I would rather get an island than any card from legions.       (I really hate that set)
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Smmenen
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2003, 06:59:59 pm »

If they ever make any really good and expensive minotaur, Digiridoo will become very good.

Steve
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Crater Hellion
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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2003, 07:18:01 pm »

Didgeridoo actually does something potentially worthwhile. Sorrow's path, the highway.. no.
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Flurp™
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2003, 07:19:06 pm »

I dont think that any Minotaurs will be printed anymore.  Mirrodin is in a compleatly different world, any anyway the last set to have ant minotaurs was apoclypse.

But I do have a new submission for worst rare ever:

Apocylypse Chime.

I think that beats sorrow's path because sorrow's path can actually be used in a combo (a very bad one) but apoclypse chime is totally useless.
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BrokenDeck
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2003, 07:34:12 pm »

Hello, you people don't know what you are talking about.  It is pretty clear the worst card ever is tolarian academy.  I mean, you can't even use it in 4 constructed formats!
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Razvan
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2003, 07:34:56 pm »

Quote
Quote Apocalypse Chime

I think that beats sorrow's path because sorrow's path can actually be used in a combo (a very bad one) but apoclypse chime is totally useless.

It kills Aysen Highway though! So it's NOT the worst card ever!
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Ephraim
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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2003, 08:27:52 pm »

Let's see. Carnival of Souls has really fun flavour text, which gives it some redeeming value over Sorrow's Path. I've seen a Minotaur deck use Digiridoo to good effect, so I can't say it's bad. I've held the position that one leech in each of the off colours, in a monocolour deck might be interesting - better than Sorrow's Path, I'd wager. But wow...Apocalypse Chime. I don't think I can argue against that. I suppose you might say that it teaches newbies the sin of using Homelands Cards, which, apparently, you are using too, since you have Apocalypse Chime in your deck.
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zenit
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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2003, 08:28:11 pm »

The worst card/cards are the lands from legends that give certain colored legends band with only other legends. That is the shiz
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Matt The Great
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2003, 08:53:36 pm »

Apocalypse Chime was playable back when there was almost no other way to kill an Autumn Willow. There was Wrath, and Disk, and maybe Balance.
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Motrax
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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2003, 10:35:25 pm »

How 'bout Thoughtlash? The other bad rares don't have to be used when they are in play, so they are basically dead draws. Carnival of Souls is much less suicidal than Thoughtlash, so I think the blue enchantmant wins here.
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Tim the Enchanter
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2003, 10:39:40 pm »

I'd have to agree with apocalypse chime - it is completely useless.

But Catherdral of Serra comes close.
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Ephraim
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2003, 10:44:40 pm »

That just isn't true, Tim. Cathedral of Serra has been very useful every time I've wanted to Lieutenant Kirtar, Major Teroh and Radiant, Archangel to band together to fight evil.
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