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freddyX
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« on: December 15, 2003, 07:52:31 pm »

First of all I will state that Adam of team Hadley is a savage dragon player and he is the reason I have chosen to pursue an interest in this deck. So I read the dragon primer on the vintage form and that along with what I remember from adams build is what brought me to this:
 
Lands
    4 Polluted Delta
    4 Underground Sea
    1 Swamp
    3 Bayou
    1 Island
    4 Bazaar of Baghdad
Creatures
    2 Ambassador Laquatus
    3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
    3 Worldgorger Dragon
    1 Krovikan Horror
 Spells
    1 Sol Ring
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Black Lotus
    3 Intuition
    1 Vampiric Tutor
    3 Animate Dead
    2 Dance of the Dead
    3 Necromancy
    4 Force of Will
    4 Duress
    1 Demonic Tutor
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Lim-Dul's Vault
    1 Ancestral Recall
    3 Stifle
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1  Mox Pearl
    1  Mox Ruby

SB: 4 Xantid Swarm
SB: 4 Pernicious Deed
SB: 2 Chain of Vapor
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 Verdant Force

My biggest problem was forming a mana base. 21 mana sources is working fine but im not sure I have the right number of each land and such but its working for me so far.
So any suggestions on that from someone that knows what they are doing would be great.
So I will go on to some of my opinions on card choices as redundant as it may be.

Stifle: these are in the meta just an MVP in many match ups. But even in a meta where they don?t shine so well, they stop wastes from touching your bazzars. And the mad tech I was shown while in Hadley was the following:
Adam: animate my force??
some dude: ok.
*passes turn to dude*
some dude: disenchant the animate.
Adam: Stifle the leaves play ability.
*Some dude scoops.

So I am all about stifle in dragon MD. But im up for the discussion on that.

Krovikan Horror: it?s the MD answer of choice to things that beat laquatus. Im not sure im sold completely on him but he does work well.

The vault is something im wondering if I should ad another copy of? I have yet to be displeased with it in here.

Stuff I am sold on:
im all about the 4 force and 4 duress plan it just makes sense in combo.
Intuition is far superior to buried alive.
3 squees should be enough.

The sideboard:

Xantid swarms ?green duress? that win the game?
deed is just that good.
Every thing else is questionable.

Props:
adam for letting me steal his tech and teaching me how to play a game I thought I was good at.
Ben K. for handing me my ass several times and letting us crash at his house. And of course for proving to me that ninja mask is awesome.

Well let the flaming begin.
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SummenSaugen
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2003, 08:58:29 pm »

Welcome to TMD, Tristen.

Mua ha.

Anyway, as a first step, you need to find room for Squee #4 and Dragon #4.  Winning right now is good, as is outdrawing control for the entire game.

As far as your manabase goes, you don't really need the basic island, and you should be running the fifth mox.  It's usually better than Mana Crypt, since this deck is more than capable of playing the waiting game with Bazaar/Squee and you don't want your junk killing you while that happens.

21 sources will end up being okay, since Bazaar essentially gives you a free mulligan anyway.  
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freddyX
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2003, 10:40:55 pm »

ok so dragon 4 and squee 4 but the question is what do i cut?
im ok with cutting 1 stifle with no fuss.

any sugestions as to what else to cut?

nd i am runnign the 5th mox its just not listed next to the others

oh and i forgot to give props to... umm... i belive it was dan that housed me with stompy....excuse me "green power ranger" heh.  
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Diaonic
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2003, 11:03:19 pm »

Adam does things with his bazaar's that i have never seen anyone else do.

Anyway with the limited testing I have done with this deck. All i can say is I support Sausages post, And Lim-Dul's Vault is a house in this deck. Being able to stack the top 5 cards of your library then bazaar into whatever you need just wins games.


-Corey-
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Jakedasnake
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 12:22:52 am »

I would cut the Stifle and second Dance of the Dead for 4th Squee and Dragon.

Do you really need 3 win conditions? In my build I run two, and I replace the Demonic Tutor and the third win condition with 2 Lim-Dul's Vault, bringing me up to 3. That just makes the deck really smooth, and having Force of Will bait is much easier.

Overall, the deck is pretty standard, and Stifle is a good choice. However, cutting a Squee and a Dragon is just out of the question.

Welcome to TMD
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SummenSaugen
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2003, 12:55:58 am »

I like Demonic Tutor.

In a metagame where everyone wastes your junk on site, being able to fetch a Bazaar after one's already gone for the low low cost of 1B is indispensible.

EDIT:  Clarification.  1B is easier than UB because of the off color moxen making dropping the bazaar a lot easier.\n\n

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