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Author Topic: [Deck] Bloody Suicide NEW, Think with me....  (Read 1903 times)
Tijnie
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« on: February 06, 2004, 11:17:25 am »

hey there,

Suicide has had its best time. With an artifact block coming Mono Suicide seems to lose its power. Suicide has always had a bi problem with Aggro or any Artifact based deck.
Its nothing New to take red into Suicide. Blood Moon can make you win some game's, Monkey is a bit of  a Bomb too and red had what it takes to take out more Artifacts. With this hate, we can build a deck that will solve the biggest weakness of Suicide.
Still, Bloody Suicide Really sucked against aggro. With Shade's coming you had a weapon to fight back, to bad most aggro decks run red. Bolt's, Incinerate's and Fanatic's are really nice to clean up you Shade. Suicde can clean the bord too, we can use Masticore (high cost), Contagoin, Smother, Diabolic Edict and stuff like that, but all of there cards are pretty useless in any other matchup then Agrro (or to slow, note Masticore).
Bolts are already better then most of these cards, but still it is only 3 dmg one time. So we need contuinues Damage to keep our as alive. We can find that in actually 2 cards. -> Grim Lavamancer and Cursed Scroll. Grim is obviously a better choice here, cheaper And it is a critter, costs 1 mana so you will have a new 1st turn drop 2.. sounds great to me, and ques what, it works.

Bloody Suicide, by Tijnie

Creeps // 15
2x Gorilla Shamen
4x Grim Lavamancer
3x Witchered Wretch
3x Flesh reaver
3x Phyrexian Negator

Disruption // 13-14
4x Duress
4x Hymn to Tourach
3x Blood Moon
2x Null Rod (Still Need This?)
1x [Empty Slot]

Broken // 4
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Necropotence
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Demonic Consultation

Mana // 27
4x Dark Ritual
1x Black lotus
1x Mox Jet
1x Lotus Petal
5x Swamp
4x Badlands
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Polluted Delta
4x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine


Well for the most part I knew what to do, but this deck needs a small fixation.

We got an empty Slot, I used to play a random Cabal Therapy there. This deck runs only 4 Duress and 4 Hymns as hand disruption. Other Suicide Toys around with Hyppie's and even more Therapy's. this deck needs 2-3 slots foor hand disrupting. We can Say Hypnotic Specter, but the mana-curve says no. 3 Moons already took it up, with 3 Negators, a Necro and Will. we already have 8.x 3cc and that's enough. We got the Critters for 2 Theraphy's or maybe Chains of Mephistopheles will be a great hit.

Shade's became un-nessesary.  They want mana, Monkey wants mana, Grim wants mana and Wretch want mana. you want to play some spells too so this became overkill. With a Moon on board, you wont have more then 2-3 Black anyway. I decided to use Flesh Reaver in it's place, it can stomp like a Shade and it's mana cost is great.

The mana base, it looks pretty solig to me, there is alot of fetch to take enough red mana out, I'm only wondering if maybe a swamp or petal should be replace for a Mox Ruby.

Null Rod, it is still a great card, can the monkey's do all the work or would 2 rod's still be a great choice?? we might cut them for 1 Monkey and Therapy (or whatever)

Any-one feels like thinking with me, We can Discuss it's sideboard later.

Go Suicide, but Survive  Twisted Evil       Tijnie
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2004, 12:09:37 pm »

Ummm, I would find either a substitute for flesh reaver or necro. I tried running both of them in many decks, answer = death. I would suggest Wretched Anurid since it is the same cost.

You seem to be a little mana heavy also, 4 fetches often get the job done alone.

Your creature base seems rather odd. Must be a bunch of metagame choices.

For your open slots its reallly up to you and your metagame. I run powder kegs because of intense aggro.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2004, 12:19:00 pm »

fetchies do great with grim lavamancer so that is the actual reason for playing so many fetch. Reaver is a real nice thread together with Grim Lavamancer, It won't be blocked (of Block) by stupid 1/1's anymore, making it a very nice choice as a Tread. Anurid is bolt-able, making it really crappy, you don't controll it because you don't decide whenever you lose life, your opponent will make that choice for you. Final, stomping for 3 costs you 7 turns to reach 20. with a 4/4 it will only take 5 so I truly belive Reaver is a better choice in almost any Meta.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2004, 12:30:33 pm »

Would sinkhole be good in Bloody Sui ?? You can use it to attack their basic lands. How good is Flesh Reaver in this deck ?? I would normally suggest nantuko Shade but in this version of Sui you have less black mana available to pump Shade compared to a mono black Sui.
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