Gro-a-tog

[black-tog]

heym me and this guy want to play GAT, in type 1 but neither of us can get power, is this a reasonably strong deck to try out? if not wat do u think are its weakest points?
and i was thinking of maybe taking out the future sight and replacing it with intuition, and maybe squeezing in a merchant scroll somwhre.




R Mox Diamond
R Chrome Mox
R Lotus Petal
4 Polluted Delta
4 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Island
2 Swamp
R Strip Mine

R Yawgmoth's Will
R Regrowth
R Fastbond

4 Force of Will
4 Counterspell
2 Misdirection

1 Pernicious Deed
3 Duress
R Mind Twist

4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
R Gush
1 Future Sight

3 Cunning Wish
R Mystical Tutor
R Vampiric Tutor
R Demonic Tutor

4 Quirion Dryad
2 Psychatog

And of course a wishboard with silver bullets, and Berserk  . What do you think ? How would you feel about Rituals in this deck ?

[nietzreznor]

First off, I would take out the fake moxes and lotus petal--they're just not very useful in this deck.  I would also make room for 1 or 2 more Misdirections, maybe remving a Duress and a Wish, or the Sight.  I personally wouldn't play Intuition--it's just not as good in a deck more focused only playing cheap cantrips and counters.  Rituals are not good in this deck, as the deck has relativately few mana sinks and only a handful of black spells.

[black-tog]

ok, so the moxes ned to come out, i can see where you are coming from about intuition, but it does get the a.k's into the yard for me, the lotus petal is already out, so i should remove 2 fake moxen, and add 1 misdirection, but then that leaves a space open, posibly for a 3rd tog? i took out the fast bond to

[black-tog]

my bad i made a mistake, i just looked at the deck, it has 2 spaces left,

took out the fake moxen and the petal, added 1x misdirection

[Astro]

Firstly, I wouldn't waste time with Merchant Scroll if your not playing with Ancestral.  Secondly, Mind Twist isn't as useful without Mana Drain to power them.  Which brings up another point, you might consider running Daze, Mana Leak, or Stifle over Counterspell as they are easier to cast under your mana base.

[black-tog]

well i have 2 open spaces , i nthe deck, and htis deck is unpowered, so should i just add in a couple of daze? or should i go for a couple more cantrips

[Astro]

Well, if you have taken my advice and dropped the Mind Twist you'll actually have 3 open slots.  Also, if you drop the Mystical Tutor (you don't have any thing worth fetching, no Ancestral) you'll have 4 open slots.  In a budget build such as this with no Ancestral, cards like Merchant Scroll and Mystical tutor become worthless.  If I were in your shoes, I would use these 4 open slots for more draw, whether it be Impulse or Sleight of Hand (personally, I'd go with the Sleights).

Your counter base looks decent as to the number of slots you've alotted.  Since you don't have Drains, I would simply cut the Counterspells all together and add 2 Daze and 2 Stifle.  I would also work on your spelling.

[jazzykat]

Hello,
I think if you play in a high powered meta, then you should add null rods MD (if you don't have power, then fuck with their power).

Also, future site, has a pretty high casting cost so I don't think it would be that hot without drains.

Just give us a more detailed description of your meta game.

[Flurp™]

I have been running unpowered GAT for a while now and most of your build looks good.  I think that GAT is better with either a white or red splash.  White gives you swords and a few wish targets, and red gives you fire/ice and lots of good SB stuff.  If you see lots of good aggro (TnT, BigO, Madness, etc...) then white might be a better choice, but if you see more weenie based aggro and control/combo then I would go with red.