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« on: March 06, 2004, 11:41:38 am » |
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I looked at Xantid Swarm and got this idea:
~Name~
Creature-~type~
0/1
When attacks and isn't blocked, defending player sacrifices a permanent.
hoses control and all kind of other decks without attack-phases...
Once more with feeling...
Dismantling Swarm
Creature-Insect
1GR
0/1
When attacks and isn't blocked, defending player sacrifices a permanent.
edit 1: Added mana-cost
edit 2: Added Name
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2004, 12:18:01 pm » |
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That looks fine as long as the CC is more than 1. Three is probably the right number. Otherwise, it would be too good of an early drop.
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I know this won't happen in a tournament, but if my opponent has Chaos Orb in his hand while I'm controlling his turn from a Mindslaver, who flips the card if I force him to play it and activate it?
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2004, 12:22:34 pm » |
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Yeah. The way it is now, you can't play it  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2004, 12:43:17 pm » |
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This is actually a softlock, since one way or another, decks are going to try and power it out turn1. I don't think I like it very much.
edit: oh wait, it doesn't fly. CC of 3 is fine then.
How about 1GR ?
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2004, 05:20:54 pm » |
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Hmm, so I actually forgot the flying-part, whatever, it looks ugly anyways...
Morefling, it's not really a softlock, it's easy to get past by, by well, just playing creatures and blocking it...
But than again, in T1 nobody plays creatures, but in T2 it's unbroken as hell...
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2004, 08:19:39 am » |
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24 hours are ticking...
named it xantid destroyer, just because...
Does anybody else feel like giving this a single color and making it a cycle with Rudy's stealer and the original??
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2004, 10:57:51 am » |
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I do not like this name.  |
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2004, 11:24:55 am » |
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With both of the Xantid ideas, in fact, I have a concern. Are Xantids the insects, so that 'Xantid Swam' is a swam of Xantids, or is it a location? If it's a location, then these are okay. If it's the insects, then it's kind of silly to name things 'Xantid' anything, unless you want to imply different functions these insects have evolved. Personally, I'm against using the 'Xantid' name.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2004, 11:28:07 am » |
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Xantid does not appear to be a word - but 'xanthid' is the name of certain types of crabs. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2004, 12:22:18 pm » |
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I do not like this name. :( Nor do I. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2004, 12:47:22 pm » |
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Isn't permanent sacrificing a Black ability, or did I miss another change to the color wheel?
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2004, 01:48:18 pm » |
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Generic permanent sacrificing is a red ability, as per Misguded Rage: Misguided Rage   Sorcery Target player sacrifices a permanent. Black forces the sacrifice of creatures |
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2004, 02:40:54 pm » |
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Saccing permanents is such a black ability! Greater Harvester, Death Cloud, Pox, to name some of the newer ones.
I will give you Red in here, although I was provided with only one card, but why is Green in here.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2004, 04:23:09 pm » |
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Because he's doing a rehash of Xantid Swarm.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2004, 05:11:57 pm » |
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Yeah, but this should have a different name, and it shouldn't be green.
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2004, 11:03:45 am » |
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Than come up with a better name...
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2004, 10:20:43 pm » |
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Cards with names like "Something Destroyer" are so cliche. The function is okay though.
Perhaps the name can be "Dismantling Swarm"?
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2004, 03:24:32 am » |
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24 hours to go...
changed name into Dismantling Swarm
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2004, 09:20:20 am » |
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If anything, this should be  {R}. Green shouldn't be in there at all bcuz red has insects and this ability belongs in red (moreso in black, but red is ok). |
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2004, 09:04:19 pm » |
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Well, insects are green, but the ability isn't. This really shouldn't be either an insect or a green card.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2004, 12:45:47 am » |
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I don't see a problem with red insects ([card]Lithophage[/card], [card]Shocker[/card]).
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2004, 09:30:53 am » |
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a red insect is fine w/ this ability...
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2004, 04:58:01 am » |
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so this can be closed??
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2004, 09:30:59 am » |
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{R}!!!!!! |
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2004, 04:39:49 am » |
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BWM: not until there is some consensus on the mana cost. I'm thinking  , really. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2004, 10:04:47 am » |
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Well, I think 1GR is fine, really.
Ice Storm, Plow Under, Winter's Grasp, all kinds of artifact and enchantment destruction. I think green can destroy things in a mild and underpowered way. And 0/1 flying is underpowered enough.
I think that 1GR is ideal for a locust swarm like this (name already taken in mirage). It's primal nature mingled with primal destruction. Green Red, that is.
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2004, 11:02:19 am » |
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Besides, it kinda looks like Decimate (in a real sick and twisted way) and that was Greenred...
I see no reason to make it mono-red as red has no ways of destroying enchantments...
Same reason why I don't feel this is black...
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2004, 11:16:41 am » |
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Red can't destroy enchantments outright, but as I mentioned earlier, this card's ability perfectly mimics the mono-red Misguided Rage. I'm not saying that this should be mono-red, only that your argument against red not having enchantment destruction is fallacious. Personally, I like the card at {G}{R}. |
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2004, 11:41:11 am » |
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: YES {R}: OK {G}{R}: NO green doesn't do "sac a permanent" things. Black and Red have insects, and they do it. |
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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2004, 08:48:33 am » |
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Green did sac a permanent with Nature's Wrath. And it has desert twister and tornado.
And this is primal nature and primal destruction, so it is GR.
I'm starting to repeat myself, here.
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