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« on: March 29, 2004, 12:34:28 pm » |
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Slave Auction
Enchantment
1R
R,T: Each player chooses a number and a creature an opponent controls. Each player looses life equal to the number they chose and the player who chose the highest number gains control of all chosen creatures.
The wording is a little complicated, but the flavor is beautiful. The randomness and "auction" effect are both in flavor for red, so I think this baby is pretty well balanced. I costed it very aggressively, so I expect the CC to come into question.
Current Wording:
Slave Auction
1R
Enchantment
R: Each player chooses a creature an opponent controls. Each player then may then pay one life, all players which paid may repeat this process until only one player pays this cost. The last player to pay life gains control of all chosen creatures. Play this ability only once per turn and only when you could play a sorcery.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2004, 12:39:33 pm » |
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Gain's control of all chosen creatures? Shouldn't he get control of the target creature?
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2004, 02:31:44 pm » |
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Well, I'd considered that wording. But, aside from the fact that it would be a lot more complex to word it like that (and add at least another line of text), this version is alot more interesting in multiplayer.
I love making cards which are fine in standard, but infinetely fun in multiplayer.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2004, 02:32:03 pm » |
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Gain's control of all chosen creatures? Shouldn't he get control of the target creature? What target creature? |
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2004, 04:38:00 pm » |
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The enchantment...taps?
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2004, 11:21:54 pm » |
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whats wrong with a tapping enchantment???
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2004, 11:40:45 pm » |
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I don't think enchantments are supposed to tap. One could make it an artifact or allow the ability to be played only once a turn and only when a sorcery may be played.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2004, 05:04:37 am » |
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Or just make it a sorcery or instant.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2004, 10:08:00 am » |
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The sorcery's already been done.Immagine this card in sligh... Pay seven life to steal your weeny. Then pay seven life for your other weeny. In the meantime, I have dealt about as much damage to you as I've just paid life. And if I haven't paid any life, it means that YOU have, which is even better. Nice. No rules against tapping enchantments. Just flavour and / or precedent.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2004, 11:10:28 am » |
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If you want it to only be usable once per turn, just make it say "this ability can only be played once per turn".
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2004, 08:44:28 am » |
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Then you can do it in each player's turn.
And we don't want a counter in the upkeep, which must be removed on activation, and gets removed during your upkeep.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 11:14:12 am » |
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whats wrong with a tapping enchantment??? It's just not done. That's simply not how enchantments "work". |
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2004, 05:42:23 pm » |
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I hadn't even noticed that I'd made a "tapping enchantment".
But there it is...
Any ideas on how to eliminate the tapping? Personally, I was thinking that this would be insane, and very "red", if we just took out the tap and let any player use the ability, an number of times a turn. Although, maybe once per turn per person is a better option.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2004, 05:52:36 pm » |
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"This ability may only be played once a turn and only when you could play a sorcery."
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"Play this ability only when you could play a sorcery. This ability may only be played once a turn."
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2004, 06:44:15 pm » |
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"This ability may only be played once a turn and only when you could play a sorcery."
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"Play this ability only when you could play a sorcery. This ability may only be played once a turn." He beat me to it. But the BEST wording is: "Play this ability only once per turn and only when you could play a sorcery." |
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2004, 10:59:00 am » |
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There, now that that's taken care of: Is the CMC and activation cost ok or does it need adjustment? (I costed this very agressively)
Is the ability fair as worded? (I think that this card is prone to cheating problems... You'd have to have each person secretly chose a number and public chose the creature. Which I would not want to put in as card text or reminder text.)
Is the ability different enough to warrant a card? (I think definetely so.)
Is the ability completely unfair in multiplayer or limited?
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2004, 11:25:26 am » |
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Choosing a number in secret is tough, plus this is an auction. Players should bid life to get all the creatures.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2004, 11:29:36 am » |
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Choosing a number in secret is tough, plus this is an auction. Players should bid life to get all the creatures. Bidding cards have been notoriously long in the text department... Who's to say this isn't a silent auction? I get your point, but the text is already long as it is, adding the bidding mechanic would make this card almost too long to print. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2004, 03:06:36 pm » |
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Could anyone suggest a proper wording for this card that would not involve the maximum in lines of text?
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2004, 03:04:31 pm » |
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Made the card far more wordy, but less complicated and much more flavorful.
I like this card now.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2004, 03:29:28 pm » |
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That seriously just makes it more confusing.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2004, 05:51:07 pm » |
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This kind of auction is actually going to lead to very heavy life loss for both players, because you really have to keep paying. This is just too powerful for limited.
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