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« on: April 20, 2004, 12:19:08 pm »

I guess I should post a report too eh?  I’m Jeff Blyden, the other madness player at the tourney.  All in all, it was a great tournament, although I should not have taken the split that I ended up accepting due to peer pressure (bad card and an equally bad influence).  I thought that the split was a little off-balanced, but Nick, and Jeff assured me that they thought it decent, so I said “What the hell!” Anyways, I shouldn’t ramble.

The List

4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Taiga
2 Tropical Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Forest
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring

4 Arrogant Wurm
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
4 Survival of the Fittest
3 Hidden Gibbons
3 Fiery Temper
2 Roar of the Wurm
2 Deep Analyses
1 Frantic Search
1 Wonder
1 Uktabi Orangutan
1 Gorilla Shaman
2 Anger

Sideboard[/b]
2 Stifle
2 Dawnstrider
2 Naturalize
3 Ground Seal
1 Duplicant
2 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Null rod

Yeah.  Yeah.  I'm not fully powered yet, and proxies where not allowed, so give a couple moxen Very Happy

Looking back at this list, I should have changed the board a bit. With Nick being the only Slaver/Welder player, the Ground Seals just sat there.  Oh well.


Round 1: vs Sean Mangner playing FCG

This match is more or less a coin flip.  I won the die roll, and chose to go first.  Nothing eventful happens, and he does the triple Piledriver thing.  The funny thing is, I put his as Madness until turn 2, in which dropped a driver.  I had only seen his board prior to the start of the match, and since it looked a lot like mine, I foolishly assumed it.  Oh well, on to game 2.

+2 Stifle, + 2 Naturalize; -3 Hidden Gibbons, - 1 Uktabi Orangutan

Game 2 went a little better.  I get some early beats on the table, then Sean plays Goblin Recruiter.  This normally would have been a bad thing for me, if he had more than 2 lands on the table.  You see, Sean forgot to activate his Wooded Foothills before stacking, so the Recruiter was for not.  A few flying dogs later, its game 3 time.

Game 3 was probably the best start that I had all day.  Sean plays mountain and passes the turn.  I draw, then play Taiga, Mox Peral, Lion’s Eye Diamond, Wild Mongrel, Basking Rootwalla, Arrogant Wurm, ditching Anger and Deep Analyses, swing for 7.  Good Times.

1-0  [2-1]


Round 2:  Really Cool Guy playing Sui Black

This guy was awesome, even though he plays supposedly bad decks, and beats me with them.  He’s the guy the guy that just randomly has 4 Bazaars for trade, when your'e in need of 2.  Extra’s anyone?  

I thought that Sui Black was supposed to lose…a lot.  Not the case here.  I win game one rather easily, but game 2, he clears the board via Nevinyrral’s Disk and proceeds to smash my face with a Nantuko Shade, while sitting at 3 life.  Game 3 went like this:  Wasteland, Sinkhole, Wasteland, Sinkhole, Strip Mine.  And I had the Anger, Wonder, Wurm, Bazaar, Squee hand.  Damn Sui Black.

1-1 [3-3]


Round 3:  ???? Playing FCG[/u]

I’m sorry for all of the Question marks in the names sections.  I’m just really bad with names, and never remember to record my opponents name.

This was a tense match.  I did the whole, my creatures are bigger than your creatures thing in game one, and he did the whole I can combo like Magneto/Storm/Cable in game 2.  So I’ll only write about game three.  Sideboarding was done the same as in round 1.

I open with some fast beats (Rootwallawallawallawalla), but he has a Lackey to trump.  We trade as he swings into me, and he then makes a Piledriver.  The Piledriver is met with his buddy, Mr. Warchief, the following turn and they make an attempt at my life points.  I do some stuff and pass the turn.  Now it gets silly.  He drops a food chain, and trades some guys for a Siege-Gang.  With the Gang-bang commander on the stack, his FC is hit with Naturalize.  Frown; or so I thought.  He has another and soon makes a Recruiter find some troops.  The guys are found, and presented to me, and I could not believe my luck; he had forgotten to grab Ringleaders, and stacks his deck 10 or so goblins thick.  I do some fancy stuff and get him down to 1 with a pair Wurms and Rootwallas.  I attack into his double Siege-gang, 4 tokens, Piledriver, Warchief, and get 3 for 1 on my wurms.  I then drop a dog, and its game over.

2-1 [5-4]


Round 4:  Allen Cavaness with Sui Black[/u]

I’ll spare you games 1 and 2, because the only game that mattered here was game 3.  Have you ever been a position that looked so immensely hopeless, that you just wanted to concede?  That was this game.  We did the whole nothing plays for a couple of turns, then it gets ugly.  He strips my lands down to 2, and plays a Masticore, to oppose my Arrogant Wurm.  Frown.  I fail to draw land, and pass him the turn.  He feeds the Masticore, draws, then attacks.  I block, and surprisingly He lets the core die!  This can mean only one thing…Yawgmoth’s Will.  I look through his graveyard, and notice the Ritual, double Sinkhole play.  Not wanting him to do this I say out-loud “DAMNIT!!  Ritual Core!”

And guess what?  He took the bait.  I dance inside for a while, and he passes the turn.  Seeing that I’m on a 5 turn clock, I go into topdeck mode, and rip a Survival of the Fittest.  I play it and pass the turn.  He feeds, draws, and attacks (16 life).  I rip a land, and pass the turn back.  He once again, feeds, draws, and attacks (12 life).  However, he has a Shade to follow his swing, a die a little inside.  EOT, I activate survival, ditching a Rootwalla, for Rootwalla2, then Rootwalla2 for a Squee.  I draw an LED, play it and pass the turn. He shoots down a Rootwalla and attacks.  After a bit of thought, I chump the Core with Rootwalla2.  He pumps the Shade twice and passes the turn (8 life).  EOT, I survival Squee into Squee2, and Squee2 into Anger.

I return the Squees, rip a Wurm, think for a bit, and make the following play:  activate Survival, discarding Arrogant Wurm.  With Survival on the stack, I activate LED for 3 green discarding a Fiery Temper, which I then play, for its madness cost, targeting the Nantuko Shade.  Survival resolves, and I find Wonder.  I then activate Survival again, trading Wonder for Uktabi Orangutan, and cast it targeting Masticore.  He taps one, and casts Dark Ritual, regenerating the Core, and burns for 1 as I swing into him.  He shoots down my monkey before the Core dies, and then passes the turn after he draws.

I return the Squees, and rip a Wild Mongrel, the last one in the deck!  The Mongrel hits the table and swings in deep for 3.  He draws, and passes the turn.  I survival a Squee for another Squee during his EOT, and then a Squee for the last Arrogant Wurm during my turn.  A couple of swings later, its game.  What a turn around!  Survival is the best card in magic (next to Ancestral Recall, and Yawgmoth’s Will, and Necropotence, and Yawgmoth’s Bargain, and Force of Will, and…lets just move on).

3-1 [7-5]


Round 5: ?????? with Mono-brown[/u]

I’m currently 4th , and am paired down and play the guy in 10th.  If he wins, he won’t make Top 8, but I we draw, I do make it.  I ask him for the draw, and he says “Nah.  I’m going to try to keep you out of the top 8.”  What a bag!  So reluctantly, I smash his face with 4 ARROGANT WURMS and 2 Basking Rootwallas.  All he sees are 2 Metalworkers and a couple of lands.  After his defeat I game one, he gives me the win.

4-1 [9-5]


Quarterfinals 1:  Jeff Cosgrove (Layerties) with Tog[/u]

I hate playing friends in the top.  Notes are sparse with this match, but I managed the win in game 1, and he top decked a 4th land in game 2 to wish for Berserk wit a full hand and yard.

Game 3, however, was nuts.  I’m beating him down with a Wild Mongrel, and get him down to 3.  He has 1 card in hand, and draws his card for the turn.  He then taps 4 and casts FoF revealing: Force of Will, Force of Will, Mana Drain, Yawgmoth’s Will, Diabolic Edict.  I thought for quite a while on this, and decided to do the 4-1 split leaving the edict in a pile by itself.  Surprisingly, he takes the pile of 4 cards.  Did he have another edict in hand?  Nope.  He had better.  BLACK LOTUS  He goes Lotus, Will, Lotus, Mox Pearl, Sol Ring, Ancestral Recall, Brainstorm, Tog, Diabolic Edict.  I thought that that was an amazing run, but he forgot to recast FoF.  5 turns later, a flying Rootwalla, methinks it was a Rootwalla, goes the distance.  After we shook, he reveals the top card of his library…Cunning Wish.

5-1 [11-6]


Semifinals:  Chad Daugherty (Metabubbles) with Keeper[/u]

A couple minutes before the registration, I was stricken with a sickening thought.  What do I do about Exalted Angel?  Nick (The Advantage) told me that I could just race them, but what if I couldn’t?  I changed my Sideboard at the 11th hour, swapping the 3rd Tormod’s Crypt for 1 Duplicant.  I’m glad I did.  Even though I never got a chance to steal an Angel,  it was nice knowing that I could if the need be.

Both games against Chad were rather uneventful.  I got incredible hands in both games (game 1: Lotus, Sapphire, Land, Gibbons, Wild Mongrel, Deep Analyses; game 2: double Gibbons) and just overran Chad.  I recall a Mox Monkey getting hungry in one of the games and that’s about it.

6-1 [13-6]


Finals:  Sean Mangner with FCG[/u]

I beat him earlier, so why did I split?  He’s a friend of mine, and I always split with friends in the finals.  Now, why did I agree to the split that seemed so grossly unfair to me at the time?  I guess it was a combination of peer pressure (Chad, Nick, Jeff, and Dale all thought that it was fair) and the fact that I got the Sapphire that I gave him in the split for somewhere near $0 a couple of months ago ($350 for 1x Lotus, 1x Pearl, 1x Sapphire).  So I foolishly took the split against my gut instinct.  Oh well.  Ce la vie.


Looking back at the tournament, I would haved modded the board a bit.  
  • Dawnstrider is a house!  She gives you so many free turns.  The down side?  I can only draw her in non-tourney games!
  • Stifle also proved insane.  I wish that I had a 3rd in the board.
  • WotC needs to allow 16 cards in the board so that I can play an extra Naturalize too.
  • [/list:u]


    Very Happy
PROPSVery Happy
Nick Woolery (The Advantage):  For giving me lift to the tourney and for letting me borrow a Bazaar for about 2 hours.
Really cool guy from round 2:  For trading me a set of Bazaars.  You are awesome
Joel, Chad, Marc, Robert, Dale, Jeff:  They’re just cool.
Carlos:  For getting Jeff and myself some Subway subs.
Dustin:  For holding such an awesome event.
Tim:  For being the only person that agreed with me that the split was a off.

SadSLOPSSad
Jeff:  For letting my finish a footlong sub before he could finish his first half.  AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A MAN!!!!
The hotchick from The Saint Louis Bread Co.:  I wanted your number damnit!
Mana Drains:  cause I need some now.
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 12:46:20 pm »

A few corrections, my friend...

I didnt say you could race the Angel and win, I said you should.

You forget the biggest prop of all:

Nick Woolery for making an ass of himself in the quarterfinals so you didnt get Advantpwnaged in the finals for the Mox.

And hey, whats all this talk of peer pressure.  I'll be the first to admit that, in haste, I thought it was fair, but I was by no means pressuring you to do that split.  Razz

The Slop you missed:

Blueberry Hill for having long ass waits all day so I couldnt eat one of the best burgers in town.


Congrats again!  St. Louis experienced Black Style Mastery all day Saturday.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 01:36:57 pm »

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A few corrections, my friend...

I didnt say you could race the Angel and win, I said you should.


Should...Could they mean the same thing in this scenario


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And hey, whats all this talk of peer pressure.  I'll be the first to admit that, in haste, I thought it was fair, but I was by no means pressuring you to do that split.  Razz


You said it was good!  I trusted you!  You betrayed me!  AAUUWWWGGH (runs to room sobbing; slams door; pull out diary)

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 01:49:21 pm »

in the playlist you wrote Library of Alexandria you mean Lions Eye Diamond right?
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2004, 02:22:23 pm »

I'm fairly confident he played both, but unfortunately I cant tell you which card doesnt belong.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2004, 02:38:21 pm »

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in the playlist you wrote Library of Alexandria you mean Lions Eye Diamond right?


Oops.  That was my fault.  I wrote down the wrong number of Trops, and when counting the cards, did not notice the missing Lion's Eye Diamond.  Its been corrected.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2004, 02:53:12 pm »

Hey, congratulations on doing so well. I'm the mystery guy you played against in round 5. Just wanted to let you know that I'm sorry for kind of being a jerk at first - I was in a very bad mood. I got manascrewed all day long and probably would have been better off playing something besides WelderMUD with only two workshops. And in my defense, I never said I was trying to keep you out of the top8. I would have probably given you the match even if I had won.

Funny, I thought you were playing R/G Oshawa Stompy, due to the survivals and squee, since I never saw you cast Deep Analysis.

In retrospect, I would have been better off playing Landstill (or Dragon, if I had the cards for it). I hope I see you at the next one.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 01:01:23 am »

Nice report, Jeff.

Hanna's was pretty cool, and I don't want to gripe too much- but there were some bogus rulings handed out.

1   The chief offender was the null-ruds not stopping the moxes and artifact lands.  Turn 1 and 2 null rods are pretty good VS affinity- except in St.Louis.

2   Mana drain gave X mana at the cost paid instead of X=0.

3.  LED can't pay madness cost.  I wish you would have drawn your non-functioning LED against me!

I'm glad that Hanna's will have more type 1, but these are rulings that shouldn't have to be looked up in T1.

I think the environment was light on combo, and heavy on aggro.  This lead to the aggro-smashing aggro (FCG and madness) on top.


That prize split wasn't the best.  I was wrong about it.  And as for being on your slops list, I finished half of my sub before yours was unwrapped.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 08:58:21 am »

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3. LED can't pay madness cost. I wish you would have drawn your non-functioning LED against me!


Please explain how the following doesn't work.

Have LED in play, pop LED for the mana, discard hand, remove the madness cards from game, pay madness cost with the mana from LED.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2004, 09:01:43 am »

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3. LED can't pay madness cost. I wish you would have drawn your non-functioning LED against me!


Please explain how the following doesn't work.

Have LED in play, pop LED for the mana, discard hand, remove the madness cards from game, pay madness cost with the mana from LED.


I think he's saying the judges there made some really bad calls, and that was one of them.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 10:48:15 am »

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3. LED can't pay madness cost. I wish you would have drawn your non-functioning LED against me!


Please explain how the following doesn't work.

Have LED in play, pop LED for the mana, discard hand, remove the madness cards from game, pay madness cost with the mana from LED.


The judge said that I had to pass priority back to my opponent before I could get the mana from the LED, thus losing my opportunity to play an Arrogant Wurm off it.  I just said "sure thing", and went on with the tourney.  It didn't matter much though.  I only "attempted" to cast a Wurm off LED mana once during the tournament, and the judge let it go through since he did not inquire about the play until 3 or 4 turns after it had taken place (round 1 game 3).  No big though.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 11:03:42 am »

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3. LED can't pay madness cost. I wish you would have drawn your non-functioning LED against me!


Please explain how the following doesn't work.

Have LED in play, pop LED for the mana, discard hand, remove the madness cards from game, pay madness cost with the mana from LED.


The judge said that I had to pass priority back to my opponent before I could get the mana from the LED, thus losing my opportunity to play an Arrogant Wurm off it.  I just said "sure thing", and went on with the tourney.  It didn't matter much though.  I only "attempted" to cast a Wurm off LED mana once during the tournament, and the judge let it go through since he did not inquire about the play until 3 or 4 turns after it had taken place (round 1 game 3).  No big though.


And he's blatently wrong. Tell him to read the goddamn errata and use the oracle database. Was it sanctioned?
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2004, 11:04:19 am »

It was indeed sanctioned.  24k to be exact.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2004, 11:05:35 am »

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It was indeed sanctioned.  24k to be exact.

Then that judge should have given correct rulings for LED and Null Rod.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2004, 11:13:47 am »

Even though it didn't matter in the long run, it very well could have. And those other rulings were hinky also.

BTW Jeff...I did think the split was a little lopsided but didn't say anything because hey...what do I know...I'm just getting into Type 1

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2004, 09:53:31 pm »

The head judge really had no idea what he was doing, which is very unfortunate.  Seeing any judge say that you can pop your Lotus Petal for mana under a Rod is...well, there isnt an adequate adjective to describe it.  This just goes to show you that you need to be aware and confident of all rulings questions you might run into.

The rulings that were given were the only true slop of the tournament.  The building was kinda short on elbow room, but nothing out of the ordinary.
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