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kuwv
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« on: April 25, 2004, 12:07:14 pm »

I updated a large portion of my deck list to make it more competitive, and I was hoping that I could get more insight. Problem mathups are Tog Keeper and Landstill. I believe there are ways to better each of these matchups and would appreciate any ideas. Thanks.

Parfait (unspoillered)

Mana Base:
12 Plains    
1   Black Lotus    
1   Mox Pearl
1   Chrome Mox      
1   Sol Ring  
1   Lotus Petal      
1   Mana Crypt    
1   Mox Diamond    

Bullets:
2   Phyrexian Furnace      
1   Ivory Mask/ Gilded Light
1   Karmic Justice
1   Aura of Silence    
1   Humility    
1   Solitary Confinement    
1   Story Circle    
1   Balance

Engine:
4   Land Tax    
3   Isochron Scepter    
3   Scroll Rack      
2   Zuran Orb  

Control
4   Orim's Chant      
3   Abeyance      
3   Argivian Find    
3   Swords to Plowshares      
2   Disenchant
1   Seal of Cleansing      
1   Enlightened Tutor    

Kill:
2   Goblin Charbelcher
1   Mobilization    

The Sideboard (15 cards)
3   Sunbeam Spellbomb/ 1x Gilded light    
2   Tormod's Crypt    
2   Rule of Law
2   Illumination
1   Karmic Justice    
1   Spiritual Focus    
1   Dust to Dust    
1   Jester's Cap    
1   Scroll Rack    
1   Tsabo's Web
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 12:21:43 pm »

Moved to newbie. (Sorry for the mistake)
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2004, 12:21:48 pm »

I started playing t1 after Parfait died, could you please explain or be closed.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2004, 12:45:57 pm »

I would splash Blue or Red for Bloodmoon or Back to Basics
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2004, 12:57:13 pm »

Splash red for sideboarded (or maindecked, if it's that bad) Blood Moon.  It can really just tear apart Tog if you can stick it (and with 4 Chants and 3 Abeyances, you should not have any trouble here).  Just make sure to do it before they get a Deed on the board. ;)  I would try to run some Tithes if you can, too, so it's easier to find your sideboard colors - run one basic Mountain for Land Tax, and one Plateau for Tithe.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2004, 11:28:20 pm »

I think 4 chants and 3 abeyances are too many. When I played parfait awhile back, what I found happened would be that I would take a lot of damage and then eventually try to establish some control, drop a belcher, and hope it was enough for me to win. While these help you get to that, I found in a lot of the games that I lost, I would draw a chant or abeyance and be angry that it wasn't enough to help me win.

Also, I noticed that you don't really have enough creature control. All you really have (unless I missed something) are 2 swords, balance, and (possibly) humility. Unless you plan on saving your isochron for the swords (or vice versa), you will probably lose very easily to decks that have a lot of weenies (oshawa, landstill, fish, wtf, etc). I would recommend adding 2 more swords, another humility (to make sure you can draw it) and maybe a wrath of god.

You use disenchant in the deck. While I was playing parfait, I found that I would usually have a large hand (once I got the tax/rack) combo going. You don't want one of the cards you're saving in your hand to be disenchant, so Seal of Cleansing is better.

Just so u know, when I played the deck, I splashed red for the blood moons and burning wish. I was also able to play gorilla shamans in the sideboard. Also, the burning wish allowed me to get slice and dice, wrath of god, and rolling thunder (win condition in case I can't draw the belcher).

One final thing, I don't think you should be playing with the mana crypt since the deck is not really a fast deck. It will probably do too much damage to you to really be useful (at least in my opinion). The only real play you can make with the mana crypt is to use it to cast a belcher on the 1st or 2nd turn and then activate it subsequently. I don't necessarily think this will work too well for you though. Similarly, I don't think you want to use the chrome mox in the deck. Most of the cards in your hand, you don't want to discard them in order to cast the mox. It's just not worth it.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2004, 12:41:55 am »

Mox Diamond is much better than Chrome Mox in this deck.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2004, 10:07:21 am »

Mountain is better than Chrome Mox in this deck.

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2004, 02:49:14 pm »

Sad  Isnt there a basic problem with this deck because of a lack of a dramatic card advantage swing?(land tax is only for land after all) ?
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 02:50:39 pm »

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:(  Isnt there a basic problem with this deck because of a lack of a dramatic card advantage swing?(land tax is only for land after all) ?

The deck uses Scroll Rack/Land Tax to draw real cards. When your opponent lets you, anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 12:50:41 pm »

I haven't had Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond work well in Parfait, and I've cut both.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2004, 09:14:04 pm »

Quote from: yodoblec
I started playing t1 after Parfait died, could you please explain or be closed.


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I would splash Blue or Red for Bloodmoon or Back to Basics


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Quote from: Tristal
Splash red for sideboarded...


What I'm trying to do is focus my attention on the limitations and possible improvements so that I may metagame the deck better and push the other versions to thier limits. I have all the parts for the Cherry, Blueberry, Lime, and even Dark + ABM Parfaits. This is a deck discussion specifically for Parfait and not its hybrids. I'm sorry I didn't state that clearly.

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I think 4 chants and 3 abeyances are too many... Also, ... you don't really have enough creature control. All you really have (unless I missed something) are 2 swords, balance, and (possibly) humility... You (also) use disenchant in the deck... Seal of Cleansing is better. One final thing, I don't think you should be playing with the mana crypt since the deck is not really a fast deck...


To your first remark: 4 chants and 3 abeyances are important for a control and combo heavy metagame. What I decided on was to try to maximize the possibilites of each hand, and to do that I had to find a way to abuse argivian find(which combos as and extra draw engine now). The [card]Sunbeam Spellbomb[/card]s are extra control against aggro, and I actually run 3x swords (I think you may have misread).

To your next remark: I believe the disenchant ability to be played from hand is an important ability, and I do run Seal of Cleansing. I just believe that [card]stifle[/card] is to an important a consideration to run more Seals.

Your third comment: Yeah thier cool  Wink

and lastly: Mana Crypt should really only be considered a midgame excellerant unless your playinng against combo or you have a scroll rack and the crypt in your hand against control.

Thanks  Wink

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I haven't had Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond work well in Parfait, and I've cut both.


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