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« on: April 27, 2004, 04:27:08 pm »

Idealist Defender
Creature - Cleric
W
Sacrifice Idealist Defender: Prevent all damage a source of your choice would deal until end of turn.
When Idealist Defender is put into a graveyard from play, you may search your library for a card named Idealist Defender and put it into play. If you do, shuffle your library.
1/1

White is traditionally the color of defensive creatures. This is an efficient way to stop a fast offensive. Is it too powerful? I like the idea of a cleric that dies to protect his ideals, and gives an example to others so they follow in his footsteps. One thing this card definitely needs is a good flavor text.

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Defender of the Ideal
Creature - Cleric
2W
Sacrifice Defender of the Ideal: Prevent all damage a source of your choice would deal until end of turn.
When Defender of the Ideal is put into a graveyard from play, you may search your library for up to two cards named Defender of the Ideal and put them into play. If you do, shuffle your library.
1/1
"You may strike me down, but two more will take my place. My body may decay; the Ideal will live on forever."


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- Upped casting cost.
- Modified search ability.
- Changed name
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2004, 04:34:50 pm »

It would be cool if he cost more ({2}{W}, maybe?), but searched out two copies of himself - that could justify a flavor text that took off "you can kill me but two more will take my place". Also, please post a current wording in bold.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2004, 04:38:07 pm »

That's really strong--not only is it a recurring 1/1 for W, but you get to prevent tons of damage too. I think the additional copies should go to your hand instead.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2004, 04:45:10 pm »

OK, card edited.

Any suggestions for definitive flavor text?

Also: do you think of this card as a common? I created this following Matt's petition of the cards still needed for the set; I don't think that as a common it would be too powerful.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2004, 04:52:53 pm »

It would be pretty terrible at other rarities ecause you'd never be able to draft multiples.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2004, 04:52:21 pm »

I'd rather see this at 1WW than 2W. It just gives you so much damage prevention.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2004, 05:05:34 pm »

With the current casting cost, I don't think it is too powerful. In a draft, you would need four or more to make them really good, and if you are drafting this, you are missing drafting more offensive creatures. As it is, if you manage to draft three of them, you will be rewarded with a strong effect that will effectively stall the opponent, but will not put any kind of pressure on the board.

I can change the casting cost to WW1, but before that I would like to know if it is really overpowered at W2.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2004, 06:11:37 pm »

The name should probably be changed a little, because it's not really proper english. Idealistic Defender or Defender of the Ideal work.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2004, 10:04:38 pm »

Idealist:

1. One whose conduct is influenced by ideals that often conflict with practical considerations.
2. One who is unrealistic and impractical; a visionary.

I would say the definition is correct, although if you native english speakers think it is not right, it can be changed
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2004, 10:14:25 pm »

Yeah, but idealist and defender are both nouns. That's like calling a creature "Cleric Knight".
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2004, 10:56:47 pm »

Changed the name.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2004, 11:07:01 pm »

It should probably be "Defender of the Ideal" or something.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2004, 12:04:16 am »

Any good flavor text before finalizing this card?
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2004, 09:29:47 am »

Quote from: Matt
that could justify a flavor text that took off "you can kill me but two more will take my place".

Some variant on that would be good.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2004, 05:38:46 am »

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2004, 08:23:16 pm »

Closed and added.[/color]
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