[Results] - Turin - 20 June - Keeper Wins

[MaxxMatt]

Hi all,

"the crazy italians" are back!!! ( <3 Dr.Sylvan )

Thanx to my Superpowers and my Jedi Mindtricks, "Benga" and Me were able to collect the lists and the breakdown of the first Italian tourney with 5D allowed.
Some cool innovations and experiments with the new card pool brought a little of differences in some maindecks and sideboards.
Some of these changes do good results too...

We had 66 players. As usual the tourney were sanctioned ( DCI points addiction... ), K24 thanx to our 2 level2 judge and a good mix of powered and unpowered decks. They played 7 Swiss Rounds and Top8.

This is the link as usual


Top8 Results

1) Keeper
2) Bg-DARgon
3) (Bad)5C-Affinity
4) RG-AggroMadness
5) UB-TPS
6) URG-Control-Madness
7) 4C-Hulk Smash
8) 4C-Hulk Smash


This is the Breakdown of the Tourney.[/u]


1 Alessandro Testa (Keeper)
2 Dario De Palma (Divoramondo)
3 Simone Bronzino (Affinity)
4 Massimiliano Garofalo (Madness RG)
5 Pietro Cavalletti (Tentrix UB)
6 Walter Zarà (Madness URG)
7 Enrico Albesiano (Hulk Smash)
8 Roberto Sartini (Hulk Smash)

9 Danilo Benvenuti (Keeper)
10 David Besso (Fish-UW)
11 Daniele Vernetti (Zoo)
12 Gabriele Cattaneo (Ur-Phidian)
13 Marco Marotta (Welder-MUD)
14 David Beduzzi (UB-TPS)
15 Renato Morriello (5C-TPS)
16 Frida Betti (Vengeur-Masquè)
17 Humbert Milazzo (5C-TPS)
18 Stefano Biasio (DARgon)
19 Jurij Gosso (Control-Slavery)
20 Marco De Rossi (5C-Affinity)
21 Antonio Graziano (Stacker-Monobrown)
22 Andrea Garella (DARgon)
23 Giovanni Bissolino (Keeper)
24 Davide Alfonsi (Welder-MUD)
25 Marco Ardoino (4C-HulkSmash)
26 Lorenzo Ghirardi (DARgon)
27 Maurizio D'Isanto (Keeper)
28 Giorgio Elia (Goblin)
29 Matteo Negrini (Trade-Survival)
30 Cristian Tonello (Cobold-Tendril)
31 Massimiliano Rossero (Elf-Combo)
32 Fabrizio Morina (4C-HulkSmash)
33 Riccardo Rolla (MonoBlackControl)
34 Stefano Tosco (Goblin)
35 Mauro Bonino (DARgon)
36 Marco Bogliotti (Zoo)
37 Maurizio Ruetta (Ur-Phidian)
38 Valerio Pisoni (Workshop-Slavery)
39 Luca Cau (Ur-Phidian)
40 Gianluigi Mannarino (WR-Control...)
41 Giacomo Mallamaci (WB-Light&ShadowFromTheDeep)
42 Alessandro Bovo (Sligh)
43 Edoardo Fusaro (DARgon)
44 Jacopo Costantini (Fish-UR)
45 Bertinetto Luca (Fish-UR)
46 Franco Basti (Fish-UR)
47 Emanuele Lach (Aggro-Madness-RG)
48 Daniele Gualco (Sligh)
49 Davide Ciucci (5C-TPS)
50 Jurij Di Carlo (DARgon)
51 Matteo Grella (Aggro-Madness-RG)
52 Andrea Pastorelli (Mono Black)
53 Michele Airaudo (Hulk Smash)
54 Daniele Piovano (UrPhidian)
55 Marco Chialvetto (Sligh)
56 Pasquale Aricò (Sligh)
57 Sangregorio Francesco (Zoo)
58 David Scarsella (Welder Mask)
59 Emilio Cirillo (Hulk Smash)
60 Daniele Verra (UrPhidian)
61 Alberto Bertinetti (Stacker)
62 Fabio Rossi (Sligh)
63 Antony Franchini (Goblin)
64 Antonino Nucera (High Tide)
65 Alessandro Navone (Oath)
66 Roberto Gallea (Hulk Smash)

...To be continued...

Continuing....


For the ones interested in statistics....


METAGAME'S RATE    
CONTROLLO (40,90%)   
AGGRO      (36,37%)   
COMBO      (22,73%)

POWERED/UNPOWERED'S RATE

POWERED     (57,58%)      
UNPOWERED (42,42%)



Final Standings after the last Swiss' Round

1° - Affinity
2° - Bg-DARgon
3° - RG-AggroMadness
4° - UB-TPS
5° - Keeper
6° - URG-ControlMadness
7° - 4C-HulkSmash
8° - 4C-HulkSmash



This is the path through the Top8

Affinity Vs. 4C-HulkSmash               --> Affinity 2-1
Keeper Vs. UB-TPS                         --> Keeper 2-1
Bg-DARgon Vs. 4C-HulkSmash        --> Bg-DARgon 2-0
AggroMadness Vs. ControlMadness  --> AggroMadness 2-1

Keeper Vs. Affinity                         --> Keeper 2-1
Bg-DARgon Vs. ControlMadness      --> 2-0

Keeper Vs. Bg-DARgon                   --> Keeper 2-0



From 9° to 12°, all pthe players have the same score and they went out from the Top8 only because of a lower rate.

The "Keeper" that win is not the new "4C_Control_Style_Skeletals&Angels", but a bit old style built that I think was tuned for the specific metagame.
The player lost a lot of first games winning the second and the third with great consistency, expecially because of his good side.
He missed a bit the 2 Shaman swapped for the Lone maindeck CoW that he used a lot expecially for a better development of his manabase. Maybe he'll follow my advice on putting CoW in side to dedicate this good card to specific matchups.


I classified the Affinity that did Top8 as BAD because it has some Subpar cards in the maindeck ( Ornitopters, maindeck Tormod's Crypts, too many Disciples and so on... ), missing IMHO some better choices. He did well and his deck is totally Alpha and Foil, so he could have some good points...

 
The Hulk builds are nearly Equals. The one that placed 8 have only a second and a third maindeck Intuition instead of a Duress and an Atog. As you can see it is a more "Controllish" version ( 4 Removals maindeck, Duress and only 2 Togs ) compared with the "SpeedCombo" usually used in America. I think that they preferred playstile and more flexible build over efficiency and fast wins.

Reading some of the lists I saw that this tourney didn't Show any 4c-Control... It is a bit astonishing because it is ( IMHO ) better and more resilient than some old builds, and expecially  because some of them showed up the last toruney in Milan. This time the same players preferred old style builds.


Strangely enough no artifact deck Top8ed. Finally a good amount of Slavery.decs showed up in our tourney. Maybe our players are testing and appreciating his performance with more consistency.


I'll add specific path through the Top8 as soon I can collect them form some various players.


Hoping to be useful


MAxxMAtt

[Dr. Sylvan]

<3 full results.

I take it both Hulk builds are identical, even though on theabyss.biz the 8th place one isn't linked?

And to all those who think the Italians are crazy: once again they're keeping Hulk afloat from mediocrity. Before this my results had Hulk on the losing end of a multi-sided tie for third, but now it's in second for June. Really, who's got some 'splainin' to do here? :p

For the lazy, here's the 5D I found in the results:

The winning Keeper maindecked a Crucible of Worlds. No Angels, though. :'( The RG Madness had two maindeck Crucibles. So far I'm right and Knutson is wrong. I'm counting on the rest of you to keep it that way. :p

In non-5D interesting notes: the TPS build has two maindeck Rebuild, which I have never seen before.

[Squee]

Another RG Madness top'8ed...I find it interesting that RG Madness seems to almost always crack a top 8 in Italy but it hasn't even made a splash anywhere else in the world.  

The Hulk smash lists are sorta weird too(well, the one with a working link).  It only play 1 Intuition which I have never seen before.  That could be attributed to him not being able to find a 2nd one though.  He also plays 2 Fire/Ice and 2 Pernicious Deed.  The Italian metgame looks to be very diverse so I can't see the need for 2 maindeck deeds and 2 F/I.  He also plays no Shamans between the maindeck and sideboard.  

I don't though, the Hulk list is really different but he made top 8 and you can't argue with results.

[MaxxMatt]

@For the satisfaction of Dr.Sylvan's Curiosity...
For a better comphrension of the differences between the 2 Hulk Lists that Top8ed, I told to the player of the missing one.

The list is COMPLETELY different respect of what he firstly communicate to "Benga" ( the one who collected and found some of the lists... ).

This is a link of a discussion here on TMD where he and some of his teammates tried to discuss something about it. The list proposed there is the same that he played last week. There were some minor differences on his side, due to metagame needs, but they are absolutely minimals.

I made a similar work on tring to describe to you "what can be considered Hulk" here in Italy. Our player usually tried to approach the game in a more conservative and "controllish" way and both the ways seemed to me to do some good results at our tourney. Reading the list that I proposed, feel free to swap Wastes for some Duresses. When I posted that build some weeks ago, I rised a bit the land count and I added some Denial effects to face "The_Past_DARgon&Stax_Explosion", while for the current metagame some Discards effects can be considered a better choice to do.


The need of removals usually is the needed choice that our players do to face decks that are common here in Italy as FCG, GoBBo, Sligh and Madness of all types. Their builds didn't let the Atog player to goldfish really fast ( Pillars, ReBs, Ankhs, BloodMoons, BtBs, Rods, Lackeys and Critters of all kind, Angered Mongrels and Wallas and so on... ) and the advantage gained usually involve a stretch in the game and the impossibility to draw a lot and berserk an Atog safely. So we chose of slowing the game by using some removals to gain a position from which "DoingTheTogThings" is usually preferred and safer.

I dislike the MonoIntuition too of course...


@Squee.
MADness usually do really well here. The players are skilled and the builds always fresh and difficult to predict. Excluding the needed skeleton of a normal Control and/or Aggro Madness, there are always some new and strange and unexpected choices or tricks that let them smash faces even without thinking too much... Usually Control Madness has more presence in our Top8 rather than AggroMadness. I'm sure that the Little Combo added with the release of CoW after 5D gave more consistency to the Aggro version...