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Author Topic: How to feed a guiltfeeder ? [closed]  (Read 2308 times)
Nubi
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« on: July 22, 2004, 03:04:31 am »

I gave up the Guiltfeeder idea, and went with WUG instead, the decklist became as follows:

Mana (23):
4 Tropical Island
4 Tundra
4 Savannah
4 City of Brass
4 Flooded Strand
2 Windswept Heath
1 Sol Ring

Creature removal (7):
3 Pariah
4 Swords to Plowshares

Other control (12):
3 Forgotten Ancient
3 Meddling Mage
3 Spike Weaver
3 Beloved Chaplain

Draw (12):
4 Standstill
2 Abundance
3 Sylvan Library
1 Enligthened Tutor
1 Wordly Tutor
1 Regrowth

Win (6):
3 Mesmeric Orb
3 Gaea's Blessing

Whether the deck will work however, I know not yet - playtesting will tell. Thank you for your help all Smile
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2004, 05:18:13 am »

Bear in mind that if you are going for Millstone / Brain Freeze win you will have trouble winning against decks that uses Gaea's Blessing.
It's not as common as it was before, but I suggest include Jester's Cap. The cap is just pure evil against combo and can remove Blessings as well.

I can't see how you are going to make use of Standstill when you got no manlands. You need a guiltfeeder in the board before the Standstill and waiting 6 turns before putting a standstill in the board is to long in Type1.

I think the Solution at card advantage is not Standstill but Brainstorm. I think that Thran Quarry isn't needed and I suggest putting inn Polluted Delta. They also can fetch all of the dual lands.

Manabase:

-2 Thran Quarry +2 Polluted Delta

Draw:

-4 Standstill +4 Brainstorm
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2004, 08:44:21 am »

I see your point about gaea's Blessing, as in fact one of my friends play a deck with those. However I intend for guiltfeeder to be the main win, not millstones, so I think jester's cap will be SB material instead.

As for the thran quarry you might be right, I just think there's too much life loss in the deck already, and Thran Quarry helps with that.

As for standstill I usually play it before the guiltfeeder while I control the board, that way my opponent must break it if he wants to change the situation. I've never had trouble with standstill earlier when I used battle screech for win (less expensive, yes but not much) so I think I'll keep it MB. Also brainstorm doesn't produce card advantage, it just gives selection.

I will however add the two fetch over Thran Quarry.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2004, 08:56:40 am »

I would put isochron scepter instead of millstone. They can be imprinted with powerful spell including brain freeze, which turns the scepters into uber-powerful millstones.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2004, 10:01:47 pm »

Actually, if you want a fierce guiltfeeder deck, you need to run Mesmeric Orb and Gaea's Blessing in your own deck.  You can continue to replenish your library while wittling away at opponents.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2004, 11:33:11 pm »

Another thing you could consider is adding Traumatize, in which case you could also add the secondary win condition of Haunting Echoes.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2004, 03:59:13 am »

While traumatize and haunting echoes is indeed very nasty, it's also very expensive :/

As for mesmeric orb + blessing it sounds like a great idea to me Smile I've always loved the blessing.

Isochron scepter is indeed powerful, however I have too few instants in the deck for it to be of any real use imho. Also I don't want the mill part to take up too many slots. Although mesmeric orb and gaea's blessing might just take out the guiltfeeder and just be my win, it's sooo cruel Smile

Edit: I think I'll drop black for green and run 4 blessings, I really love that cantrip Smile
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