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« on: July 25, 2004, 07:58:59 am »

This Week Who's On 1st held a large type 1 tournament that had a large field with various strong tier 1 fully powered decks(5 card proxy). Crucible control, dragon, 4cControl, U/G madness,7/10 split, mono brown,Food chain goblins and fish, were some of the decks that were present. I played dragon this week.

My decklist:

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 necromancy
2 dance of the dead
3 animate deads
3 compulsion
4 intuition
4 Force of Will
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
3 duress
1 ambassador laquatus
1 shivan hellkite
4 squee goblin nabob
4 world gorger dragon
4 polluted deltas
3 underground seas
1 bayou
1 volcanic
1 tropical
1 swamp
2 gemstone mine
1 mox jet
1 mox sapphire
1 mox emerald
1 mox ruby
1 mox pearl
1 black lotus
1 mana crypt

Round 1: Dragon vs. Fish

Game 1: I get beat down by early lavamancers, strips and mishra's factories. I finnally attempt to go off with triple FoW back up, despite breaking his standstill. I get out countered and lose

Game 2: turn 1 kill

Game 3: turn 2 kill
2-1

Round 2: Dragon vs. Food Chain Goblins

Game 1: My opponent plays first and drops a lacky, I FoW. He draw bazaar but I keep drawing crap. He casts many more goblins and I die shortly after.

Game 2: -3 duress,+3 deeds. Turn 2 Kill

Game 3: He plays double tormods crypt and blood moon, I lose.
1-2

Round 3: Dragon vs. Mono-Brown

Game 1: I play first, he plays a metal worker turn 2 and smokestack turn 3 and I kill him on my turn four.

Game 2: -3 duress, +3 deeds. He drops trinisphere, I scoop.

Game 3: Turn 2 kill.
2-1

Round 4: Dragon vs Fish

Game 1: I get an insane draw with squee and bazaar. My opponent starts off with turn 1 lavamancer followed by cloud a fearies and spiketail hatchling turn two. I dig for 16 cards and is unable to find world gorger and I lose with a hand full of animates.

Game 2: -3 duress -1 squee, +4 xantid swarms. I drop an early swarm, he FoW's it I pass. He he wastes my bayou. I drop land and pass. He drops lavamancer. I dance my swarm. He taps out to cast spike tail. I untap swarm. I swing and go on to win.

Game 3. Turn 2 kill.
2-1

Round 5: Dragon vs. U/G Madness.

Game 1: I win the die roll, cast ancestral , he FoW's it. He drops man after man, and I am on a short clock. I die while digging for the dragon that never came.

Game 2: -3 duress,+3 deed. Turn 1 kill.

Game 3: turn 3 kill.
2-1

Top 4
1) Brent
2) Devin
3) Christiaan
4) TheLegendOfMagic

Pairings before final match: Brent (Crucible control) vs. ThelegendofMagic(Dragon). Christiaan (Crucible Control) vs. Devin (food Chain Goblin)

Christiaan defeats Devin.

Brent (crucible control) vs. ThelegendOfMagic(Dragon)

Game 1: I combo Brent out as I am able to force his early trinisphere.

Game 2: -3 duress, +2 stifle +1 deed. Again I am able to stop his early threat with a FoW. However,I lose the war of attrition as he forces the issue by playing a smokestack  on turn 4 threaten to eat up my mana sources. Out of desperation I animate and lose to a BEB.

Game 3: Brent mulligans down to 5 and is pretty much out of it for most of the game. He eventually dropped trinisphere and duplicant for beats later, but I had already had the bazaar engine going and it was only a matter of time before I got the combo.

2-1

Final Match: Christiaan (Crucible Control) vs TheLegendOfMagic(Dragon)

Game 1:I duress him turn 1, taking ancestral recall, he top decks mana crypt drops trinisphere followed by crucible and waste next turn I lose.

Game 2: -3 duress, +2 stifle +1 deed. Chalice for 2 and a chalice for 3 , me with FoW and no blue card, I lose shortly after to smoke stack double welder.

Final Standings:
1) Christiaan
2) TheLegendOfMagic
3) Devin
4) Brent

Top 4 Decklists:

1st Place Crucible Control(Christiaan)

1 sundering titan
1 platinum angel
1 triskelion
4 goblin welder
4 smokestack
4 tanglewire
4 trinisphere
3 crucible of worlds
1 ancestral recall
4 thirst for knowledge
1 tinker
1 memory jar
1 mystical tutor
1 wheel of fotune
1 timetwister
1 black lotus
1 mana crypt
1 mana vault
1 mox emerald
1 mox jet
1 mox pearl
1 mox ruby
1 mox sapphire
1 sol ring
2 ancient tombs
4 mishras workshop
3 shivan reefs
1 strip mine
1 tolarian academy
4 volcanic island
4 wastelands

2nd Place Dragon

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 necromancy
2 dance of the dead
3 compulsion
4 intuition
4 Force of Will
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
3 duress
1 ambassador laquatus
1 shivan hellkite
4 squee goblin nabob
4 world gorger dragon
4 polluted deltas
3 underground seas
1 bayou
1 volcanic
1 tropical
1 swamp
2 gemstone mine
1 mox jet
1 mox sapphire
1 mox emerald
1 mox ruby
1 mox pearl
1 black lotus
1 mana crypt

3rd Place Food Chain Goblins

4 food chain goblin
4 goblin recruiter
4 goblin lackey
4 goblin piledriver
4 goblin ringleader
4 skirk prospector
3 gempalm incinerator
2 goblin matron
3 goblin warchief
1 goblin sharpshooter
2 siegegang commander
4 wooded foothills
4 taiga
5 mountains
4 wastelands
1 stripmine
1 elvish spirit guide
1 lotus petal
1 mana crypt
1 black lotus
1 mox emerald
1 mox ruby
1 sol ring

4th Place Crucible Control (Brent)


Props: To Jeff the store owner for holding this tournament and putting up a library as the prize. Hopefully in the near future, Jeff plans to maybe hold a tournement for a mox as the prize.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2004, 09:03:27 am »

Good Job.  I think you left 3x Animate Dead off your deck list.  

Do you find the red splash for Shivan Hellkite any better then just running 1 Sliver Queen?  I guess you can fetch a mountain and hard cast Squee for a chump blocker in desperation as well.   :lol:

Btw that Crucible Control deck is such a bitch to play against.  I think it holds a slight edge over Dragon since Trinisphere followed by Crucible is game 99% of the time.  You need a FoW or hope to god they don't get a single Wasteland.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2004, 12:25:01 am »

Why would you scoop to Trinisphere?

Your Animates already cost 2 or 3 to start.  Can't Dragon combo off with Trinisphere in play?

Also, I only caught the last little bit of the last match between you and Christian in the Finals.  The crowd was breathless!  The Horror!

Did you know that Christian was not playing Force of Will?  What prevented you from Animating a Dragon in the final round?
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2004, 12:30:42 am »

Oh yea, I left out 3 animate dead spells from ym decklist...
Versus Christiaan last round, he got the lock on me with chalice for 2 and 3, I couldnt cast my animate effects.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2004, 12:43:29 am »

That's right. Now I remember. (That is why it was so tense. The unasked question, "Does TheLegendOfMagic have an answer to that")

Was there an answer in your deck at the time? Chain of Vapors? Something? I saw the hardcast WorldGorger Draon move. (It seemed over by that point.)

Was there some other creature you could have hardcast?
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2004, 01:09:22 am »

I was under presure from a welder , crucible of worlds and a smokestack, I was getting my mana sources destroyed, I had no draw power and could not get to a stifle before the smokestacks became too much to handle.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2004, 03:02:34 am »

As lotushead said, chain of vapor would have been nice, but I'm not certain you were running that card maindeck or sideboard. In any case, the final game was extremely tense for everyone I think. Chalice for 2 was pretty brutal, but after Christian cast chalice for 3 as well it seemed like too much of an uphill battle. Such is magic i suppose.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2004, 03:02:40 am »

Can you remove my decklist please, thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2004, 04:08:58 am »

Sorry, Brent Jeff asked if I could do a complete report with decklist of the top four...
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2004, 04:29:04 am »

Ill admit the truth, I am not a total expert on dragon, however I would suspect that having a direct win by direct damage via a shivan hellkite can prove to be very useful in cases of suspecting whether or not your opponent my have a geae's blessing after board. Another case where a hellkite is the only way to win would be if, your opponent has an active welder that he can weld something to put a Platinum Angel into play thus defeating the laquatus tech. Or in the case of fish where they might have done enough early damage where they can kill you during their upkeep with a grim lavamancer. In my oppinion having a hellkite is better than having a sliver queen in those examples above...
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2004, 12:29:51 pm »

Hellkite wins now, while Sliver Queen takes another turn.  Hellkite can be hardcast under Blood Moon.  The question is whether it's worth it to destabilize the mana base for red.  B/U/G does little to add as Xantids get eaten alive in the Norcal meta (due to the amount of aggro/aggro-control), so the choice is really between B/U/R or B/U  (note, B/U/R still can run deeds thanks to Gemstone Mine).  B/U version is much more resilient to Cruicible Control which seems to be the developing deck of choice.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2004, 07:50:45 pm »

I agree with Lyhrrus, sliver queen is to slow you have to have a direct winning condition that allows you to win now and not next turn. Sliver Queen has the same problem as Laquatus, which is it doesnt kill your opponent immidiately...
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2004, 09:26:56 pm »

Both the hellkite and laquatis require you to be able to target your opponent, while the queen does not.  This rarely matters, however, and the instant kill with hellkite as well as getting around angel makes it superior.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2004, 02:32:40 am »

Thelegendofmagic is the oldest and most experienced player on TMD, he can easily duel any of the Mods or Admins and completely demolish them, so before you talk crap about him put your money where your mouth is and play him and lose to him.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2004, 02:53:13 am »

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Where's all this coming from? No one on this thread said anything bad about Brian...

Hmm just for kicks, I'm willing to bet it's an Eudemonia IP.  Smile

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Holy F*ing shit! TheLegendOfHomoErotics! Sorry, but that is too funny! LOL x Infinite.
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2004, 09:07:25 am »

"TheLegendOfHomoErotics" - Requested name change? That's just too funny :lol:
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2004, 09:29:47 am »

I wonder what Mod is having fun with the poor 'Legend'.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2004, 09:55:58 am »

@thelegendofsuckingatmagic

Well, he asked for a "duel" with any one of the moderators/admins, and appearently he got one. I think we all know who the loser is.

Good Games, sir.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2004, 04:47:26 pm »

TheLegendOfDumbLawSuits... ugh, I'll just wait until Thursday to find out his side of the story.

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2004, 04:54:10 pm »

Before you judge, recognize.......



Thelegendofmagic's accomplishments:

1) was at mtg 1st release in bay area ...and?[/color]
2) oldest and most experienced player of vintage...because Type 1 hasn't changed since 1995, right?[/color]
3) kept vintage alive in the S.F and the east bay10 player tournaments = alive?[/color]
4) 1 of the early innovators of the original control deckCongrats! Power10, Mana Drain, and hot spells = broken![/color]
5) played with the real legends of magic, real veterans knows who I speak ofClearly, Zak and Weissman are relevant today.[/color]
6) Purse in tournament prizes: 1 case of unlimited from back in the days. Modern value of prizes $50,000. Mods and Admin purse winnings= $50 bucks if that.That's a blatant lie.[/color]
7) was one of the first people to develop a Lestre type zoo deck variant for type 1More lies.[/color]
8) is one of two real experts on "the Deck", its not called 4cControl or Keeper, its called "the Deck".  The mods and admins are only capitalizing on others peoples work and accomplishments. I have literally played "the Deck" since the day it was developed.You mean Control decks with 4 colors cannot be called 4ColorControl?[/color]
9) played at the first PTQ qualifierYou didn't make the tour, now did you?[/color]
10) has the guts to stand up to the Mods and Admins of this site in not wanting to put up with their Bull Shit. BtW the mods and admins are nothing more than nerds pretending to be gods because they control the site.You aren't the first and won't be the last. Our regime is tough to bring down.[/color]


<---Innocent man defamed from envious Nerds.....

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2004, 05:08:17 pm »

1. Not True
2. Not True
3. Not True
4. Not True
5. Not True
6. Everyone and there mother who played competive magic at THAT TIME won bucket loads of prizes compared to today, ask Nameless
7. If its such a good variant how come noone ever heard of it? D'avanzoo is probably better
8. Lies
9. Big Acomplishment, you were the first to show up somewhere *clap* *clap* I bet your mother drove you there too.
10. What Bullshit? And most of them AREN'T Nerds. Speakin of which, who's the one bitching and complaing that so called "NERDS" are giving you trouble on a MAGIC THE GATHERING website and your powerless to anything about it. AND OH YEA, YOU STARTED IT.  

I WAS GOING TO KEEP THIS TO PM, But since you bitch and complain directly on the boards, I might as well also.

Im sick and tired of hearing people bitch and complain.
*wahhh wahhh* *My Pussy hurts! Waaahhhh*

Mods please let this sit here for a while, but if it must be removed so be it.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2004, 05:35:10 pm »

I think method has taken Mykeatog's aura of "shut the fuck up, women" in his abscence from writing on these boards.

You do realize that you're calling people *nerds* over the internet, due to the changing of you name on a magic related forum? How old are you?

Wait, you have the guts to stand up to people online? Whoa, major accomplishment there buddy.

You listed your "only" purse in tournament prizes as being a box of unlimited. I thought you mentioned repeatedly "dominating tournament after tournament". And I'm pretty sure the combination of ALL the mods and admins prize winnings would be quite substantial.

Who are these real legends of magic? Do you say "the real legends know who I speak of" because there are *in fact* no real legends of magic who think your worth more than your weight in cottonballs?

Innovator of the original control deck? What?

Did you really send Kowal that PM he's posted? I think you did, cause Kowal's been laughing at me for 2 days straight online and IRL about it. That's pretty pathetic.

Defamed? What, are you Paris Hilton or something?

I apologize to Toad, Kowal, Hyperion, Matt, Jacob, the rest of the mod/admin squad and especially Zherbus for a) this post and b) my addition to this post. Ben put me up to it, I swear!

Method: You totally beat me to the punch here. Better timing tech 4L.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2004, 05:46:48 pm »

/me gets some pop-corn
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2004, 05:48:13 pm »

I forgot, I also play all the other formats as well, btw METHOD all that I said is true, you have no idea what your talking about, since at the time I was pioneering magic you were stillwatching power rangers....
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2004, 05:57:10 pm »

I am the alpha and the omega.
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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2004, 06:08:27 pm »

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Thelegendofmagic's accomplishments:

1) was at mtg 1st release in bay area
2) oldest and most experienced player of vintage
3) kept vintage alive in the S.F and the east bay
4) 1 of the early innovators of the original control deck
5) played with the real legends of magic, real veterans knows who I speak of
6) Purse in tournament prizes: 1 case of unlimited from back in the days. Modern value of prizes $50,000. Mods and Admin purse winnings= $50 bucks if that.
7) was one of the first people to develop a Lestre type zoo deck variant for type 1
8) is one of two real experts on "the Deck", its not called 4cControl or 4cControl, its called "the Deck".  The mods and admins are only capitalizing on others peoples work and accomplishments. I have literally played "the Deck" since the day it was developed.
9) played at the first PTQ qualifier
10) has the guts to stand up to the Mods and Admins of this site in not wanting to put up with their Bull Shit. BtW the mods and admins are nothing more than nerds pretending to be gods because they control the site.


<---Innocent man defamed from envious Nerds.....


small drips of pee came out.

You do realize that the modern value of $50,000 means you won like 150+ pieces of power? (Which you did not, obviously). Other than that, the part where you played at a Pro Tour Qualifier QUALIFIER was pretty good, along with saying you're the oldest and most experienced player of vintage and then proceeding to call anyone else in the universe at all a nerd. Go home. Are you too good for your home?!?
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2004, 06:11:23 pm »

That and the mountain of PMs I've got from this guy have been mildly entertaining, but he's losing his charm.
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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2004, 08:45:35 pm »

Is this an East Coast/West coast thing? (Nationally and Internationally speaking).

I only comment here, on this thread, because a thread was made at entirely my expense and was closed during the time I went out to play some Magic with the locals.

To the administrators: Let me know when I have overstepped the lines.  I have made a few PM's to the appropriate Mods in the last week or two about my posting, and I have been very respectful in my posts.

If my deck insults TMD at large, then tell me so, either in public or via PM.  I will respect your (TMD) wishes.  For a thread to openly mock Salvagers/Tourney Reports by a Moderator is...well...rude.

I have yet to lose my online temper, and at most simply want criticism and comment on my build of Salvagers Combo/Control deck known as SlapJack. I am perfectly happy to post my thoughts in the Newbie Forum and was asked by several TMD users to post in Open T1. Even users participating in the Salvagers Hate Threads. You know who you are.

I was given advice from a Moderator as to how to present my deck/discussion and alas, an entire thread started by Moderators was built to mock either my deck or my tourney reports.

I am hurt a little.  I was under the assumption that the Mods had a private forum to discuss various issues.  I was under the assumption that the Mods kept in touch with each other and even moderated each other.

I was also under the assumption that Full TMD Members were supposed to abide by the rules.

That being said, I did find the Ultimate Salvagers thread to be very funny. Please note that in my reports, I reported the facts as is.  I did not over exagerate the accomplishments of beating crap decks(except for possibly the first report). JPMeyer may get beat by crap decks, but not this build (PURELY in jest... Smile ).  I will reiterate...purely in jest.

EDIT: I forgot to end this post properly.

Just what the hell is going on? END EDIT
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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2004, 11:05:57 pm »

For one so old and wise as Legend #2, he seems to be quite good at making a fool of himself. Whatever, I've been gone the past week watching a man die, supporting a family in need, and seeing to funeral arrangements - this petty nonsense that I come back to is not worth the time or effort that you people think.

Here are my decrees:

Moderators: Lock all threads that deviate outside of magical discussion. We will take a shoot first, ask questions later approach to all of this. Threads will either be cleaned up or purged but not until I've personally had approval of such a decision.

All users: Do not add fuel to the fire. If someone posts something to spark an off-topic rant, then leave it be. Anyone who just adds to the problem is hereby considered to be part of the problem him/herself.

This thread is closed.
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