Worst Smokestack article ever!

[dandan]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/as27

Things I learnt

1 Smokestack and Tangle Wire is not a combo, they'll just sacrifice one of the permanents they tapped.
2. Smokestack is a symmetrical effect (true as far as it goes but strongly implies that you are likely to lose as many permanents as your opponent)
3. Don't even think about Goblin Welder, it's not worth mentioning
4. Smokestack isn't very good in Enchantress or Affinity decks (I must admit he has a point).

[Cuandoman]

1. Obviously
2. Never seems that way does it?
3. He did mention Welder. It's in Luhrs deck.
4. Yup.

So much potential, and so little realization of said potential. What a waste of an article. :sigh:

[dandan]

http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/expandnews.php?Article=5273

That is how you use Smokestack! I guess Adrian Sullivan hasn't read it yet. I am very surprised by his article because he generally knows his stuff albeit from the casual point of view.

OK I missed the reference To Goblin Welder in Adrian's article, it is in there, I guess I was in scroll mode by that time!

[Toad]

So bad

[wuaffiliate]

A lot of people usually love to say at this point “That's why I love Tanglewire with Smokestack! It's a combo!� Well, they are both individually powerful cards, but they are not a combo. Essentially, they both put their disruptive abilities on the stack. However, whichever one is the most potent is going to be the only one that your opponent notices on their turn. If you have more tokens on Tanglewire, your opponent won't be any further disrupted by it – they can just sacrifice their tapped permanents.

oh my god that was funny.

[Jebus]

oh my god that was funny.

No, it made me sad.

[dandan]

I can only assume that Adrian Sullivan hates prison decks and is trying to ruin them by misinformation. The sad thing is that about 10 times more people have probably read his article than Toad/Smenipants's one. On the plus side, I am always grateful for any evidence that anyone is less adept at Magic than me.

[kirdape3]

Adrian Sullivan has more theoretical knowledge of how to build decks in his little finger than we all do combined.  It's pretty inexcusable to not know the interaction, but it's not like anybody plays that stuff in Premiere level events much anyways.

[CF]

Adrian Sullivan has more theoretical knowledge of how to build decks in his little finger than we all do combined. It's pretty inexcusable to not know the interaction, but it's not like anybody plays that stuff in Premiere level events much anyways.

Just because I can contradict you: I played Welder/Smokestack/Tangle Wires at PT New Orleans.  To Sullivan's excuse the YMG boys didn't know the rules either (both Gary and Maher called a judge when I forced them to sack then tap) and neither did the Punisher team (who had discarded Smokestack in testing partially due to rules mixup). Tuomo Niemenen was still uncertain when I played him.

:o)

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Chris

[dandan]

Adrian Sullivan has more theoretical knowledge of how to build decks in his little finger than we all do combined.  It's pretty inexcusable to not know the interaction, but it's not like anybody plays that stuff in Premiere level events much anyways.

I was only being half-serious about him being less adept than me although on Tangle Wire/Smokestack quite simply he is/was!! We are all human and I did point out that Adrain generally knows his stuff which makes it all the more surprising to find such errors. As far as card interactions goes, I can understand how people can miss interactions but APNAP is pretty basic as is the controller of multiple effects stacking them in the most advantageous way.