Rules tests

[Matt]

http://delphi.kuemerle.com/

I took test #1 and got 81%. Two fo the ones I missed, I would have gotten right before 8th edition (the ones about land types and name changes), and another I would have gotten right if I had paid more attention (Gaea's Embrace).

How do you guys do? Remember, no looking anything up!

[Jebus]

100% on test 1.  I was almsot thrown off by the fact that they didn't update the test to include the new legend rules.

Test 2 is harder.  I'll try and take that one later.

[DEA]

i took those a while ago
100% on test 1, 78% on test 2
the 2nd one is very irritating
i particularly hated the keldon warlord, weakness and blah blah question

[Toad]

98 and 94.

[Jebus]

I took test two with a 94%.  I made a few stupid mistakes by not paying attention. :/

[kl0wn]

75%

I got owned by the Plated Spider questions mostly. Again with the impractical crap...WHO PLAYS PLATED SPIDER!?!?!?

That, and halfway through the test my eyes glazed over and I started choosing random answers to stuff that was more than two lines of text.

I do own Humility and En-Kor though.

I guess I'll never be a good judge for Saga block scrub tournaments.

[Limbo]

85% and 71%. Not bad for a -1 level judge

Reading is tech as well, I fucked up 3-4 questions both tests just by reading too fast.

Btw, the players in these examples are making huge playmistakes. Shocking your own critter to deal with your opponents angel :S

[ProZachar]

95% on the first one.

I missed the Umbillicus question, the Replenish/Opalesence/Rancor question, and one other one that I don't remember.

I should have gotten the Umbillicus one right.  When I answered it, a little voice went off in my head saying "Wait!!! You know what 'unless' translates to and that translation isn't the answer you're picking!"  But I brutally silenced it.  Oh, well.

[Tristal]

84%, I feel bad, though two of them I knew (I just didn't bother reading all the choices) and one was the Legendary question which has since been made irrelevant.

[Godot]

I got a 72 on the first one and a 77 on the second.  I made a bunch of stupid mistakes like misreading cards and stuff though.

How do these tests compare to the actual Judge exam?  In terms of difficulty is it closer to test 1 or 2?  I've been meaning to talk to one of the L3s around here and work on actually becoming a judge, but Im hella lazy.

[Jebus]

Laziness is not a good judge trait.  

The tests are a pretty good indicator of what you might encounter on the actual Judge exam, at least as far as rules are concerned.  The Judge exam also includes DCI policy which is missing from the Delphi tests.

Keep in mind, there is more to becoming a judge than just passing the tests.

[Tristal]

It is definitely a requirement for a level 1 judge to be able to take down a food order for the rest of the staff and return with the exact food requested.  Did you forget my chicken salad?  Guess you fail your test!

[dandan]

78% I'm soooooo bad at rules although I should point out that Plated Spider does not fly and any rulings that imply otherwise will be ignored by me on principle.
Anyway, any judges taking the test will have 100% because whichever way they call it, the decision is final.

[rozetta]

72% on test 1 (and then got disillusioned about trying any more), yep I suck. Although I did get the plated spider questions right due to the fact that I clicked and read the "rules text" buttons for just about every card on the test I got mostly things to do with replacement shields and regeneration shields and that kind of crap wrong. I think that just persuaded me not to ever try being a judge.

[Jaapmans]

For all the folks that state "I would be a fine judge", think again. Judging is not about rules knowledge. It starts with it, like driving starts with knowing how to turn the steering wheel, but knowing the rules is not even close to mastering being a good judge.

Everyone that is interested in actual judging should try a tournament. You'll be amazed how little rules questions you'll get and how many other things you have to do. That, and the chicks ofcourse

Jaap
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[Gabethebabe]

For all the folks that state "I would be a fine judge", think again. Judging is not about rules knowledge. It starts with it, like driving starts with knowing how to turn the steering wheel, but knowing the rules is not even close to mastering being a good judge.

Everyone that is interested in actual judging should try a tournament. You'll be amazed how little rules questions you'll get and how many other things you have to do. That, and the chicks ofcourse

Jaap
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Look at them jojos
that´s the way you do it
judge a magic tournament
that ain´t working
that´s the way you do it
get your boosters for nothing
and your chicks for free

[Aeneas]

81%.  I would just like to point out that they lied to me on the Legend rule, also that I am just without proper knowledge as to the nature of Umbillicus.  Woot.

[Jebus]

81%.  I would just like to point out that they lied to me on the Legend rule, also that I am just without proper knowledge as to the nature of Umbillicus.  Woot.

The tests have not yet been updated to the new legend rules, so keep that in mind when taking it.

[combo_dude]

Don't know whether the new targetting rules are in place for the Plow Under question, either.

[Jebus]

Don't know whether the new targetting rules are in place for the Plow Under question, either.

The new targetting rules do not change the functionality of Plow Under, so I fail to see how this affects it.

[Addolorisi]

82% and 74%

A few of the questions made me take a bit of extra time to think, since I knew they operated under now obsolete rules.

To those that are current judges: Assuming all I need to do is brush up on unique but esoteric interactions and the floor rules, would I have a decent shot at passing the level 1 test?

[Jebus]

82% and 74%

A few of the questions made me take a bit of extra time to think, since I knew they operated under now obsolete rules.

To those that are current judges: Assuming all I need to do is brush up on unique but esoteric interactions and the floor rules, would I have a decent shot at passing the level 1 test?

You've got a shot.  Keep in mind, you also need to study the Universal Tournament Rules and Penalty Guidelines.

[rvs]

82% and 74%

A few of the questions made me take a bit of extra time to think, since I knew they operated under now obsolete rules.

To those that are current judges: Assuming all I need to do is brush up on unique but esoteric interactions and the floor rules, would I have a decent shot at passing the level 1 test?

Just run your own tournament right now, and I'm sure after that you'll know wether or not you have a shot (or if you want to have one ).

[r_x_]

100% from the first one. Not bad...

[Addolorisi]

You've got a shot.  Keep in mind, you also need to study the Universal Tournament Rules and Penalty Guidelines.

Yeah. I've only read through those a few times, and I've been talking with a level 1 in the area about helping me brush up. The main reason I'd like my certification is so I can run T1 FNMs since there really isn't anything sanctioned in any close proximity. Vintage or otherwise.

Are there any suggestions you have on getting TO status?

[Jebus]

You've got a shot.  Keep in mind, you also need to study the Universal Tournament Rules and Penalty Guidelines.

Yeah. I've only read through those a few times, and I've been talking with a level 1 in the area about helping me brush up. The main reason I'd like my certification is so I can run T1 FNMs since there really isn't anything sanctioned in any close proximity. Vintage or otherwise.

Are there any suggestions you have on getting TO status?

FNM can only be Standard, Booster Draft, or Sealed.

If you want to run FNM or any other events, you don't need to be a certified Judge.  All you'll need to do is take the organizer's test and get situated there.

The organizer's test is essentially open book, since it is taken online.

[Addolorisi]

Well that's a bit of a setback.

I'd really like to run some form of sanctioned T1 tournament (as there is interest), but the prize support is a bit lacking, which is why I wanted to do FNMs. No one really wants to play for a few bucks cash, let alone packs. Does Wizards have any solution they recommend, or do we just sort of try to figure out something on our own?

Edit: I just tried the online application, and apparently failed. The first question asked if matches could be determined by a coin flip, to which I answered no.

The second question was "I can have as many DCI(TM) numbers as I want." I selected false. I was then redirected to a page that only said "Please try again tomorrow."

I dug through the UTR and found this:

* A valid and unique DCI number registered in the participant's name. Note: New players must register for DCI membership at their first tournaments. Players may have only one DCI number. Tournament organizers must report any player using more than one DCI membership number. Should players find they have been assigned multiple DCI numbers, they should contact the DCI at dci@wizards.com.

Can TOs have more than 2 DCI numbers?

[Jebus]

Well that's a bit of a setback.

I'd really like to run some form of sanctioned T1 tournament (as there is interest), but the prize support is a bit lacking, which is why I wanted to do FNMs. No one really wants to play for a few bucks cash, let alone packs. Does Wizards have any solution they recommend, or do we just sort of try to figure out something on our own?

You could try putting up a prize that wasn't cash or packs.

[Jaapmans]

82% and 74%

A few of the questions made me take a bit of extra time to think, since I knew they operated under now obsolete rules.

To those that are current judges: Assuming all I need to do is brush up on unique but esoteric interactions and the floor rules, would I have a decent shot at passing the level 1 test?

You've got a shot.  Keep in mind, you also need to study the Universal Tournament Rules and Penalty Guidelines.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Knowing the rules is the foundation of becoming a good judge. Knowing the rules is (by far) not sufficient to become a good certified judge. If you score decent on the Delphi test, you have a decent chance on passing the *written* test. After that there's still the practical part and the interview.

Jaap
(level somethingish)

[raye]

60% on test 1. I suck at this game.