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Author Topic: Fitting Skullclamp into Vintage, Attempt #3  (Read 8895 times)
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2004, 11:25:23 am »

I noticed that a lot of the conversations in this thread lead up to the way that Koboldclamp can stall out in it's search for the perfect Will and/or Tendrils. Some of the players at our shop have been discussing this as well. What I decided to do was search for a secondary way to utilize the creature base in the deck.

While searching for a secondary kill in a deck with free casting red creatures I finally stopped at Quirion Dryad. The deck we were looking at putting together already uses Green to cast Glimpse of Nature. It also already uses Elvish Spirit Guide to speed itself up in most builds.

Quirion Dryad is a very cheaply costed creature that has inherent advantages when run in this type of deck. I understand that the kill is normally Tendrils of Agony, but in a deck that putters out from time to time the Quirion Dryad would allow for a secondary kill first of all, and a nice sized blocker or beatstick in times of trouble when sputtering is all you've been able to pull off.

Here's the build that I've recently posted on our store's boards:

Brownnn:
3x Skullclamp
1x Tangleroot
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mana Crypt

Reddddd:
4x Kobolds of Kher Keep
4x Crimson Kobolds
4x Crookshank Kobolds

Greeeen:
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Glimpse of Nature
2x Quirion Dryad
2x Land Grant

Blacckkk:
1x Yawgmoth's Will
2x Tendrils of Agony
4x Dark Ritual
2x Duress
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Carnival of Souls

Lannndd:
4x Bayou
3x Swamp
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Wasteland
1x Strip Mine
1x Gaea's Cradle

Sideboard:
1x Mind Twist
2x Duress
3x Xantid Swarm
3x Oxidize
3x Naturalize
3x ???????

For the Mods: If you feel that there are too many different replies with "Here's my Decklist" you can edit this list out at your leisure. The link below is for the discussion thread on our boards and a DeckList can be found there if needed. It allows for a much cleaner thread.

The Discussion thread for Grobolds.
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2004, 07:54:06 pm »

If you're going to play Quirion Dryads at least play four in this type of deck.  

Anyway here is my budgetized version of this deck

12x Kobolds
4x Ornithopter
4x Dark Ritual
4x Duress
4x Cabal Therapy

4x Skullclamp
4x Carnival of Souls

3x Tendrils of Agony (If you go the Tendrils route 3 is essential)
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Necropotence

1x Mox Jet (Proxy Obviously)
1x Black Lotus (Proxy Obviously)
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Crypt (Could be Proxy)
14x Swamp

First of all I believe Storm is the best win condition for this deck, that and/or Quirion Dryad which I believe may be powerful, although Quirion Dryad seems weaker. Secondly this could be a semi competitive budget deck provided you aren't playing a lot of workshop prison decks and lock decks.  This deck although 61 cards I don't know what to cut seems like it might be powerful I'm definitely going to test it out.  I did however test out kobolds with Glimpse and was unhappy with the results.  Many times I would Glimpse one creature and that was it, and not playing a mono black version make's this deck weaker when trying to Tendrils.

Here is a version I also might try and I recommend anyone testing this deck to try out cause it seems like it might be powerful.

12x Kobold
4x Quirion Dryad

2x Tendrils of Agony
4x Skullclamp
4x Dark Ritual
4x Cabal Ritual
4x Duress

1x Demonic Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Necropotence
1x Yawgmoth's Will

4x Wooded Foothills
4x Bayou
10x Swamp
1x Forest
1x Strip Mine

This decklist remains untested, but something of this nature could be competitive, and it could resurrect a sort of Grow deck.
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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2004, 10:20:56 pm »

This thread turned into a bunch of decklists. Closed.
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