New White deck:White supremacy

[Denney The Third]

TO begin a black guy whos sitting next to me came up withthe deck name. so dont blame me^_^

creatures:
3x exalted angel
3x white knights

spells:
4x swords to plowshears
4x abeyance
4x orims chant
4xdisenchant
2x enlightened tutor
4x Wrath of god
1x balance

Lands:
13x plains
1x mox diamond
1x chrome mox
1x mox pearl
1x black lotus

other artifacts and enchantments.
4x land tax
3x scroll rack
3xisochron scepter
1x zuron orb
1x aura of silence
2x goblin charbelcher

This Deck I have tested against CCW and some mean deck players, and the infamous Josh O a few times.

It beats dragon combo at nearly a 100% rate.
It beats keeper consistantly, and has a 50% win rate against tog.
so far ive found my weak match ups to be against stacks and mono U.
I have a sideboard built to try and cope but if people could post ideas for alterations in my main deck or for sideboard configurations to help beat these decks please post your ideas.

thanks.

[VGB]

This deck is like a crappier 4CC without the control and synergy.

Null Rod kills you.
Fast decks kill you, and you have absolutely no disruption other than StP.
White Knight is an absolute joke.  Silver Knight is strictly better, and that is only on a par with Soltari Priest.  Samurai of the Pale Curtain would possibly be a better choice for the slot, even.
You are outright lying about your win percentages.  You don't even have strip effects.

This deck is terrible, the name is absolutely sickening, and this doesn't deserve a whit of anybody else's time, so I hope I have covered all the bases.  Please do yourself a favor and lurk (quoth from MT).

edit -

Just so people don't think I'm a goon for jumping all over a deck in the casual forum, when I originally posted in this thread it was in Open Vintage.  I know, shame on me for responding to obvious boot-bait  

[Denney The Third]

this deck went 3-2 at endicott ghetto con, crushing goblin:your so called fast deck. Crushing dragon with ease 2-0.
and against null rod:orims chant disenchant wins the game bc they are playing fish and a single white knight or exalted shuts down their entire deck.
any fast "combo" like deck is shut down by orimschant.
you arguments are completly null and void. If you dont believe my win percentages ask carl winters, josh O, or any binghamton players who know me and youll get a shocking surpries,

           Yours truly, the "lying"& "sickening" Hobag of Binghamton NY.

P.S. this deck is nothing like 4cc , have you ever played in a tournament before?

[VGB]

this deck went 3-2 at endicott ghetto con, crushing goblin:your so called fast deck. Crushing dragon with ease 2-0.
and against null rod:orims chant disenchant wins the game bc they are playing fish and a single white knight or exalted shuts down their entire deck.
any fast "combo" like deck is shut down by orimschant.
you arguments are completly null and void. If you dont believe my win percentages ask carl winters, josh O, or any binghamton players who know me and youll get a shocking surpries,

           Yours truly, the "lying"& "sickening" Hobag of Binghamton NY.

P.S. this deck is nothing like 4cc , have you ever played in a tournament before?

OK, for an instant I will take you seriously.

Versus Dragon:

They have Necromancy, which lets them win at instant speed.  You have no strip effects to remove Bazaar.  This matchup is nowhere even near 50% at best.

Versus 4cc:

They have superior control and draw (all at instant speed, btw., so Chant and Abeyance are useless.  Useless, I tell ya!).  Again, you have no strip effects - although their strip effects are in fact dead against you.  All their removal is good, including Fire/Ice, if they run it.

Versus Fish:

Grim Lavamacer owns you hardcore.  They also have Misdirections to turn your StP's and Disenchants against you.

Versus Combo:

Most combo packs serious disruption and artifact removal nowadays, meaning they can just wait until they can Hurkyl's your board away - if you manage to get to a second land drop, that is.

Versus Oath.

OMG.

As to whether I have played in a tournament before - of course not.  I've only been heckling people from the sidelines since 1995.

Conclusion, your metagame sucks.  

[Denney The Third]

Never seen dragon lose a game i suppose... You do realize that disenchant and orims chant are also instant speed and then they lose their entire board.  As i have said 4cc is one of the harder matchup for my deck.
grim alvomancer dies to Plowwhich gets protected by my chants or abeyances does it not?
or is it pro white?..wait ...nope it dies, then my exalted angels jump up and down on fish with abandon.

[SimpleHiker]

TO begin a black guy whos sitting next to me came up withthe deck name. so dont blame me^_^

Don't you think using racial bigotry in a Magic deck name is crossing the line just too much.

Just because some African-American next to you came up with the name doesn't make it cool or funny.

Magic and gaming culture has enough problems with racial, cultural and sexual diversity.

Do we really need to start naming decks after the ideas of racist skin heads and the KKK?

Would this post not violate rule #2 Inflammatory Posts & Rule # 4 Lack of Content, all the author did was post a deck list.
 
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[Robert the Swordsman]

a single white knight or exalted shuts down their entire deck

While I am a strong advocator of White Knight, it is this statement that troubles me.

White Knight does not shut down Mishra's Factory, it does not shut down Spiketail / Cloud / Faerie Conclave, and it does not shut down Grim Lavamancer. It isn't proving extremely useful in the fight against Fish.

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned that Enlightened Tutor is restricted.
In case they haven't: Enlightened Tutor is restricted.

You don't think that four Wrath of Gods is a bit heavy? You're not running much in the ways of acceleration (no Sol Ring? Consider it, perhaps).

Forgive me for seeming condoscending, but to me it does not look like enough testing has been done to really give those results any backing. Four Disenchants / Abeyances / Orim's Chants seems like too many dead cards in the wrong situations.

Good luck.

[rocknrossi]

I am ashamed of some of you absoultely trashing something you've never tested and cutting down possible progress in deck building is hurtful to everyone in type 1. Just cause its not a deck that someone from the community here thats a vintage adept or moderator makes doesn't mean you should trash it to try to show your knowledge. Callign this deck a crappy version of 4cc clearly shows you haven't played at tournaments since 1995 or else you would have to play a parfeit deck with a similar skeleton.

This deck has been tested and proved to be somewhat of a contender in todays metagame. here is some of the reasons why. Orm's Chant is a very powerful spell, it stops combo its at instant speed and cost 1 white. The some things goes for Abeyance its disruption is there what the deck lacks is a better draw engine than land tax and scroll rack. Disenchant is powerful, the reason this deck works is its powerful answer for things.

Dragon is worse off with this deck than any other, but, fish struggles as well with critters like white knights and exhalted angel. I agree that four wraths could be too many, but, this deck has potential it won matches at a power tournament that you can not dispute.  Its mana base is extremely solid as well, without nonbasic lands and added colors its gives it much more consistant results.

All I can say is that there are new decks out there that are better than every deck now but, you have to build and test until you discover it. If you dont believe me than ask the peopel who made the decks in todays metagame and trashing decks without a large knowledge of its capabilites is just as bad as not testing and i can vouch for the results of this deck its been tested and proven its worth.

[Bram]

Don't you think using racial bigotry in a Magic deck name is crossing the line just too much.
Just because some African-American next to you came up with the name doesn't make it cool or funny.

You're goddamn right it doesn't. The name alone makes me want to close this down.

Onto the deck: I agree with VGB's sentiments 100%.

I am ashamed of some of you absoultely trashing something you've never tested and cutting down possible progress in deck building is hurtful to everyone in type 1.

Oh come off it, will ya? This argument is so tiring. For one thing, various aspects of this deck have been tested and were found lacking. For another: what, people can't comment on a build (and I do say comment, because unlike in a flame, actual arguments were used to back up statements about why this deck is bad) without testing it? Should I go ahead and test every pile someone posts here just because they say it's good even when it goes against my better judgment?

And on that note:

Just cause its not a deck that someone from the community here thats a vintage adept or moderator

There's a reason people become Vintage Adepts (or for that matter, full members), you know. They have shown and extensive understanding of the format. Excuse me if I trust a VA's judgment over that of a basic user describing unrealistic win percentages in an outdated metagame.

By the way, by 'unrealistic' I'm not implying you're lying. I fully believe you won every match you played against dragon. I am however forced to question:
- the number of games this is based on
- the specifics of the dragon deck in question
- the skill of the dragon player
You failed to mention any of these. Additionally, Dragon is *not* the deck to beat right now.

I'm all for innovation, but nothing in your posts at all makes me want to test your build.