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« on: November 19, 2004, 09:59:17 am »

Karlsruhe T1
13.11.2004
Top 8


1st
Marco Weber   
Keeper

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
3 Cunning Wish
4 Force of Will
1 Future Sight
4 Mana Drain
1 Mystical Tutor
2 Stifle
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Fastbond
1 Regrowth
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Disenchant
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Zuran Orb
1 Jester's Cap
1 City of Brass
1 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Flooded Strand
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
60

Sideboard   
1 Misdirection
1 Stifle
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Gush
1 Echoing Truth
2 Maze of Ith
1 Balance
1 Aura Fracture
1 Blasting Station
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Disenchant
15



2nd
Daniel Huszar
Control Slaver

1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
2 Mindslaver
1 Pentavus
1 Platinum Angel
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Intuition
3 Goblin Welder
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Darksteel Citadel
2 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
4 Volcanic Island  
2 Underground Sea
4 Island
60

Sideboard
2 Aether Spellbomb
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Duplicant
2 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Old Man of the Sea
2 Rack and Ruin
15
 


3rd
Matthias Wahl
Goblin Sligh

4 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Goblin Grenade
4 Price of Progress
2 Fireblast
2 Reckless Charge
2 Goblin Cadets
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Vandal
2 Siege-Gang Commander
4 Goblin Piledriver
1 Lotus Petal
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Barbarian Ring
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
6 Mountain
60

Sideboard:
4 Rack and Ruin
1 Pulverize
2 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Blood Moon
2 Goblin Welder
15



4th
Heiner Litz
TSR - UGB Oath

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Mana Leak
2 Misdirection
3 Intuition
4 Accumulated Knowledge
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaea´s Blessing
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Spirit of the Night
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
1 Strip Mine
2 Wasteland
60

Sideboard
1 Claws of Gix
1 Naturalize
2 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Control Magic
3 Energy Flux
1 Crop Rotation
3 Ground Seal
1 Pristine Angel
1 Platinum Angel
 


5th
Axel Läuger
Just for Fun - 5/3

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Memory Jar
4 Trinisphere
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Chalice of the Void
4 Juggernaut
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Sundering Titan
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Triskelion
1 Duplicant
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
3 Thirst for Knowlegde
2 Fire/Ice
4 Goblin Welder
1 Wheel of Fortune
4 Mishra´s Workshop
1 Shivan Reef
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Volcanic Island
1 Island
2 Flooded Strand
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
61

Sideboard
1 Razormane Masticore
2 Duplicant
3 Tormods Crypt
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Red Elemental Blast
1 Fire/Ice
2 Jester's Cap
15



6th
Fabian Moyschewitz
Fast Colossus - UB Control

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Darksteel Colossus
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
2 Fire/Ice
2 Impulse
3 Cunning Wish
2 Morphling
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mind Twist
2 Skeletal Scrying
1 Cranial Extraction
3 Duress
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
4 Island
60   

Sideboard
2 Rack and Ruin
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Blood Moon
1 Fire/Ice
1 Misdirection
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Coffin Purge
1 Mogg Salvage
1 Fact or Fiction
15   



7th
Michael Heiduk
Meandeath - Death Long

1 Black Lotus
1 Chrome Mox
1 Lion’s Eye Diamond
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Mind’s Desire
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Rebuild
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
1 Windfall
4 Dark Ritual
4 Death Wish
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Duress
1 Necropotence
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Bargain
1 Burning Wish
1 Wheel of Fortune
2 Elvish Spirit Guide
2 Forbidden Orchard
4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
1 Tolarian Acedemy
60

Sideboard
3 Xantid Swarm
1 Oxidize
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Regrowth
1 Hull Breach
1 Balance
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Time Spiral
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Tendril’s of Agony
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Darksteel Colossus



8th
Bernhard Trebels
RGw Beatz

1 Mox Emerald
4 Kird Ape
2 Grim Lavamancer
3 Gorilla Shaman
2 Elvish Lyrist
4 River Boa
2 Troll Ascetic
3 Cursed Scroll
2 Lightning Bolt
2 Swords to Plowshares
4 Incinerate
4 Naturalize
2 Rancor
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Taiga
2 Savannah
4 Plateau
2 Forest
4 Treetop Village
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
60

Sideboard
4 Pyroblast
4 Artifact Mutation
1 Elvish Lyrist
1 Swords to Plowshares
3 Circle of Protection: Red
2 Pyroclasm
15





Deck Breakdown
* unpowered

1. Keeper
2. Control Slaver
3. Goblin Sligh *
4. Oath
5. 5/3
6. UB Control
7. Death Long
8. RGw Beatz
9. Sligh
10. UR Landstill
11. Oath
12. FCG
13. TPS
14. FCG *
15. UW Control
16. Oath
17. Oath *
18. RG Beatz *
19. Rogue Madness *
20. Oath
21. WelderMUD
22. Rogue Replenish *
23. Oath
24. Kobold Clamp
25. Dragon
26. Hatred Suicide *
27. Goblin Sligh *
28. FCG
29. 5/3
30. FCG *
31. Nether Void
32. UBR Control *
33. Keeper
34. FCG *
35. Iso-Control *
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2004, 12:22:18 pm »

Thanks for the results!
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2004, 02:06:32 pm »

That powered/unpowered information is quite handy.  It's interesting to notice how unpowered decks made up 1/3 of the decks in the field, but then made up almost 2/3s of the decks in the bottom half of the standings.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2004, 03:41:45 pm »

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That powered/unpowered information is quite handy.  It's interesting to notice how unpowered decks made up 1/3 of the decks in the field, but then made up almost 2/3s of the decks in the bottom half of the standings.

MaxxMatt does that all the time for the italian results. Not having power correlates with poor performance quite strongly, but it may also correlate with worse players. Finding real causation there would be tricky.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2004, 04:08:49 pm »

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Not having power correlates with poor performance quite strongly, but it may also correlate with worse players.

I don't think you really mean "worse players," because if someone doesn't own power, it doesn't mean they are necessarily worse than someone who does own power.  I've seen some pretty bad players with full power and Shops and some great players with unpowered Fish.  I think lack of power corresponds more to players new to Vintage ("inexperienced" is a better word in this case), or players who don't get a chance to play a lot of T1, which makes the purchases not worthwhile
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2004, 04:14:16 pm »

Well, I'm talking specifically about European tournaments here, since America has proxies. Players who are less interested in/committed to Vintage won't shell out for power. Sure, a few of the unpowered players may do really well, but many of them are going to be worse on average than the powered players.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2004, 06:14:08 am »

Many of the players in Karlsruhe that don't own power also lack playskill. These are the more casual players and can be found in the last 1/3 of the field.
Then we have some players that don't own power, but are good players, like Matthias, who borrowed his deck from the shop owner just before the tournament started.

Playing unpowered, regardless of playskill, (as we all know) often leads to lower performance. I played unpowered decks myself and you really need some luck to place well.
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