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« on: November 23, 2004, 01:36:55 am » |
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Designed to fill common wizard slot (Assuming set needs are up to date)
Prodigal Apprentice
2U
Creature - Wizard
You may play Prodigal Apprentice anytime you can play an instant.
When Prodigal Apprentice comes into play, return target permanent to it's owner's hand.
1/1
I like this either as bounce or twiddle, obv. adjusted mana cost to account for 1/1 body...this /might/ be too good for a common, but def. not swingy enough for a rare, I dont think.
Current Wording
Prodigal Apprentice
2U
Creature - Human Wizard
You may Play Prodigal Apprentice anytime you can play an instant.
When Prodigal Apprentice comes into play, return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
1/1
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2004, 02:14:41 am » |
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This is pretty ridiculous at instant speed. Even without that, it can still hit their 2nd land if you're going first, which can be huge.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2004, 02:27:54 am » |
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hmmm... Agreed.
What about the following adjustments..
Prodigal Apprentice
2U
Creature - Wizard
1U, T: Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
1/1
Brings into check the comes into play ability, plus with it being a Tap ability, it flavorfully pays homage to its namesake, Prodigal Sorcerer. but also keeps in line with his underpowered cousin, Temporal Adept, since it is now nonland
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2004, 03:48:18 pm » |
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Your second version would be insane in limited. Repeated bouncing should not be splashable.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2004, 05:22:39 pm » |
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You should make it:
Prodigal Apprentice 1UU
When ~ comes into play, return target non-land permanent to its owners hand.
You may play ~ any time you could play an instant.
1/1 Uncommon
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This is still good, but not really insane because it's really not reusable or very spashable, however I could still see it being played in some control and it would be a nice pick in limited.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2004, 07:49:30 pm » |
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Or you could keep it at 2U and make it return creatures only.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2004, 08:21:38 pm » |
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Or you could keep it at 2U and make it return creatures only. then it would just be a little jellyfish. |
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2004, 02:13:29 am » |
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then it would just be a little jellyfish. Meh, you're right. But the instant speed functions as an anti-falter in Limited, since this would remove two attackers from combat. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2004, 03:19:19 am » |
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Why not stick with the original plan?
Prodigal Apprentice
2U
Creature - Wizard
You may play Prodigal Apprentice anytime you can play an instant.
When Prodigal Apprentice comes into play, return target non-land permanent to it's owner's hand.
1/1
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2004, 04:04:52 am » |
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Your second version is really similar to Temporal Adept Temporal Adept 1UU, Creature - Wizard 1/1  {U}{U},  : Return target permanent to its owner's hand. And it's almost even stronger (even if it cannot bounce lands)  I would stick with the comes-into-play effect. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2004, 03:26:12 pm » |
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updated initial post to include suggested changes that i agree with, and could see fitting the criteria.
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