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Question: Would you be interested in playing in an MWS Honour Draft?  (Voting closed: December 23, 2004, 03:37:03 pm)
Yes - 6 (50%)
No - 2 (16.7%)
Maybe (explain) - 4 (33.3%)
Total Voters: 12

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« on: December 23, 2004, 03:37:03 pm »

An Honour Draft is an ongoing league tournament patterned after a sealed deck tournament. At the outset of the tournament, each player generates a sealed deck (one starter, two boosters -- no additional basic lands will be provided/allowed). Each week, each player plays against each other player (in any order they choose). Matches consist of a single game that is played for ante. Cards earned by ante become part of one's sealed deck and may be used in future matches.

It's called an Honour Draft, because all of the reporting is going to be left up to the honesty of the players. At the end of each week, each player will report his or her number of wins, losses, and draws, and I will add them to the leaderboard. A win will score 3 league points, a draw will score 1 league point, and a loss will score 0 league points.

There will be a few additional features to this Honour Draft that may make it a little bit more entertaining.

At any time, a player may opt to discard his or her entire stack and to generate a new sealed deck. This will cost 5 league points, but it can be used even if it would put a player at a negative number of league points.

Players may make trades from within their sealed stacks. Trades will cost 2 league points per card traded each, which may be payed in any combination from the two players (ie: in a 1 for 1 trade, each player may pay 2 league points or one may pay 3 and the other 1).

Players may purchase additional booster packs at the cost of 10 (more? fewer?) league points each.


Note that these point costs, as well as the scores for wins/losses/draws, are open to discussion. I'm just throwing them out now so that people will have an idea of what I have in mind.

If enough people are interested in this idea, I'm going to run subsequent polls in which I determine what exactly the nature of the sealed decks will be. Will it be limited to a single block? Will people be allowed to start with more than one booster from a single set?

At present, I don't really have plans for any prizes to be available, other than bragging rights. That might change. *shrug*
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2004, 06:46:10 pm »

I voted maybe because my windows that has MWS is being a bitch.  So right now only the suckiness that is webwizard  Sad Sad Sad
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2004, 11:00:25 am »

I voted maybe because It depends on a couple of things im not sure about

1: Do we have to build a Deck out of the cards or do we just shuffle up and play?

2: Are we gonna use Kamigawa block or is does everybody get to choose what kind of sealed deck they want to use?

Anyway I would probably be in this thing , I was just intersted about the former.
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2004, 01:12:42 pm »

I'd love to do this, provided a decent timetable.  My computer is being held hostage by a blown-out fan, so once that's replaced I could do this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2004, 02:25:54 pm »

I've participated in some of these formats before.  They seem to have the problem of the strong decks getting stronger, while the weaker decks only get weaker due to the ante system.  Having a good card get anted will frequently destroy weaker decks.  Allowing the option of generating a new sealed deck does not address the fact that the stronger decks have already gotten stronger, and will likely continue to win.  What if instead of ante, people play only for league points?  There could be an additional option of them trading in 1 league point for a random card in the set (generate a sealed deck, then roll a die to determine which card they get).

If nothing else, we could always model this off the way MTGO does its leagues.  Does anyone know how those work?

By the way, is there a way to buy extra land?  Maybe 1-3 league points for a land pack (although the land packs in Apprentice don't seem to work)?

EDIT: Found some info on MTGO Sealed leagues.
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What Is a League?
Leagues are much like tournaments that run over a period of weeks instead of hours. When you play league matches, you earn points that affect your rank in the league. However, wins and losses in a league won't affect your official Magic Onlineratings.
Each league runs for a minimum of four weeks, though some leagues may run longer. Each week, participants can play up to five matches that count towards their league rating. Additional league matches played during that week count only towards players' tiebreaker points.
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League Formats
League play is a form of Sealed Deck. You begin the league with one tournament pack and two boosters to build your deck. Each following week, you purchase an additional booster to add to your league deck.


You can find an example of someone's league experience here.

This was a four week Mirrordin block league.  To start, the person purchased a Mirrordin tournament pack (I guess that means starter, although it seems to give more lands) and a booster of Darksteel and Fifth Dawn.  At the end of the first week, the person adds a Mirrordin booster.  At the end of the second week, the person adds a Darksteel booster.  At the end of the third week, the person adds a Fifth Dawn booster (SURPRISE!).

We could just use this format, or we could alter it a bit to fit in league points.  Since there's already a constant influx of boosters, I don't think allowing additional boosters to be bought with league points is a really great idea.  Instead, we could simply opt to keep the trading feature, and maybe add a buy-a-card feature (generate a sealed deck, people bid on the cards?).  Or, to even things out, we could even scrap the league points system and go with a draft system, where the people with the worst records get the first picks (X boosters are generated so everyone gets 1 pick, and the rest is dumped).

In any case, I think league points should be kept seperate from the standings.  For example, going into the last week, people may just decide not to spend their league points when they could clearly use extra booster packs, because they don't want to influence their rankings.
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