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« on: January 18, 2005, 07:25:19 pm »

This is my first tourney report, and since I really wasn't expecting to finish in the money, I didn't take any notes. Everything in here is from memory, so if I get any names or play-by-plays wrong, I'm sorry, please correct my mistakes.

Anyway, I'm Justin Bransfield, or Negator13 just about anywhere on the internet. I've attended the last two Waterburies before this one, going 4-3-1 in the first with FCG and 5-3 in September with Titan. I love Ray's tourneys and they're always a great experience no matter how well I do.

About a month ago, I noticed the massive amounts of TPS winning in Europe, namely Italy. I started testing with a generic U/B list, and tweaked, tweaked, and tweaked some more over the following weeks. I started with a normal Draw-7 based list, morphed it into the Tutor-TPS build with multiple Gifts, Scrying, and FoF, and eventually moved back to a more normal modified list with Draw 7's.

Here's what I took to battle on the 15th:

The Not-So-Perfect Storm

3 Island
2 Swamp
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Frantic Search
2 Rebuild
1 Tinker
1 Cunning Wish
1 Gifts Ungiven
4 Force of Will
1 Time Spiral
1 Mind's Desire
4 Dark Ritual
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Necropotence
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard:

1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Hydroblast
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Stifle
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Brain Freeze
1 Echoing Truth
2 Energy Flux
1 Rushing River
1 Misdirection
2 Engineered Plague
2 Skeletal Scrying

I'll just take the opportunity to comment on some (bad) card choices. My maindeck was, IMO, very close to optimal, for a version using Draw-7's at least. I definitely wished I had a third Sea in place of the second Flooded Strand multiple times. I also found Time Spiral to be just a little to clunky to be effective. It did win a couple games, however.

The sideboard, on the other hand, was pretty much a disaster. DSC was horrible, and Platinum Angel would have been better in every possible way. I never Wished for or boarded in Hydroblast. Engineered Plague, which was intended to kill Welders and Spirits, was completely useless as Welders never impacted any of my games and I faced no Oath. The Energy Fluxes were atrocious. I only played against one Workshop deck, but I know from testing and from that match that 2 Rebuilds in the board would have been 100% better.

Since Saturday, I've made the following changes to the deck:

-1 Flooded Strand
+1 Underground Sea

SB:

-2 Energy Flux
-2 Engineered Plague
-1 Darksteel Colossus
-1 Hydroblast

+2 Rebuild
+2 Mystic Remora (more on this later)
+1 Platinum Angel
+1 Coffin Purge


Anyway, enough on card choices, onto the actual report.

Round One vs. ??? with TPS

Ah, first round of my first tournament with TPS, and I get the mirror. Little did I know it was just a taste of what to come- during our match I looked over and noticed the two tables next to us were both occupied by two other TPS mirrors.  :shock:

Game One

I don't remember much about this match, to tell the truth. I won the die roll, and just flattened him turn 2 with some bomb or another. I think it was Bargain, but I'm not sure.

Sideboard: -2 Rebuild, -1 Time Spiral, +1 Stifle, +1 Misdirection, +1 Skeletal Scrying

Game Two

This game was just kind of sad, for my opponent. He mulliganed all the way down to four. Of course, I had to Duress him. Insult to Injury? Yes please. Anyway, he did a grand total of nothing relevant during the first few turns while my otherwise pretty abominable draw of 4 lands and a Gifts Ungiven tutored out Lotus, DT, Necro, and Bargain for him to mull over. I won the following turn (5).

Games: 2-0
Matches: 1-0

A good way to start out the tourney, the 2-0 win followed by some great pizza really helped put me in high spirits for the next match.

Round Two vs. (Adamdod with MUC

Game One

I win the die roll, and then win the game. EDIT: It's a Mind's Desire for about 10, followed by Time Walk into Bargain.

SB: -2 Rebuild, -1 Time Spiral, +1 Darksteel Colossus, +1 Misdirection, +1 Skeletal Scrying

Game Two

This game starts out pretty uneventful. I open up pretty slowly and of course, he does too. I accumulate a hand of Misdirection, Force, Force, Brainstorm, and another blue card. He drops an Arcane Lab. I Force, pitching the blue card, and he Forces back. I Mis-D pitching Force, and the Lab is countered. Unfortunately, we're both left with one card. Mine is Brainstorm, which I play, netting me nothing worthwhile. His is Ophidian, which he easily rides to victory.

Game Three

SB: Nothing! I'm an idiot, and I didn't board in any bounce for the Labs I saw.  Embarassed

This game was just demoralizing. For me. About turn three or so, I have a hand of like, Necro, DT, Ritual, and Lotus with two or three mana sources in play. I play Ritual, Necro. In response, he Impulses with one mana open and, to my surprise, Annuls it. Okay... I play Lotus, DT, and fetch a Will, assuming he has no counter since he's tapped out and had to dig for the Annul. Wrong, he's got the FoW, and the following turn he drops Arcane Lab. It's downhill from there, as he accumulates three(!!!) Ophidians and counters every single relevant (read: non-mana producing) spell I play. Had I boarded in Truth and River, I think I may have been able to pull it out, since his only win was a very slow Mystical-for-Tinker-for-DSC. Oh well.

Games: 3-2
Matches: 1-1

So I'm 1-1, a mentally ready to give up and drop. Of course, I'm obviously not out of the running, but I know I have to win out to make it. It's both inspiring and depressing at the same time.

Round Three vs. Patrick with Slaver

Game One

My memory is really fuzzy about these games. I -think- I won pretty early, like turn 2 or so, off a busted draw, but I'm not completely sure. All I know is I won this game.

SB: -1 Rebuild, -1 Time Spiral, -1 Tinker, -1 Memory Jar, +2 Engineered Plague, +1 Misdirection, +1 Skeletal Scrying

Game Two

He gets an early Tinker for Plats, and I don't find an answer. Simple as that.

Game Three

*Shrug* My memory is REALLY hazy about his game. I know I won, but I don't remember how or when.  

Games: 5-3
Matches: 2-1

Allright, I think to myself. I can do this. Win the next four, and I can draw in. Yeah right.

Round 4 vs. Andrew (The Brassman) with TPS

I met Andy at during round 7 last Waterbury. He's a great guy, and we spent the rest of the time after the round and after the tourney discussing the finer points of TPS and T1 in general. He kindly gave me the Mystic Remora tech I talked about earlier, for the mirror. Think about about it.

Game One

I can't remember exactly what happened in this game, but I'm pretty sure I won turn two or so off a Time Spiral.

SB: Same as in round one

Game Two

I keep a shady hand of Lotus as my only mana source, Ancestral, Brainstorm, and some other stuff. I debated mulling it but it turns out to be inconsequential as Andy opens up with Lotus, Ritual, Ritual, Bargain. Oops.

Game Three

This was the funniest game I played all day. I mull to six and go land, go. He plays LoA, draw a card and passes. On my turn, I Duress, seeing Remora, and take it. I play Crypt and Tinker for Jar, and pass. He goes Mox, Tinker, Plats. On my upkeep, I pop Jar and get a hand full of brokenness. To make a long story short, I play tons of mana sources, Will, Desire for 13, Twister, Necro, Tendrils him to negative life, and pop Jar again, and I STILL can't find my Cunning Wish for an answer to Plats, after looking through about 35 cards. I pay like 11 life to draw off Necro, and enter my EOT. I go to pick up my Necro cards and Andy stops me and reminds me of the Jar trigger. We get all confused; he thinks I want to play something between the Jar and Necro triggers, I think he wants me to pitch the cards I draw off Necro to Jar. We figure it out eventually. My Necro hand contains Time Walk and Vamp, which I use to fish out my lone copy of Cunning Wish for Echoing Truth to end the game. I was so nervous that I accidently boarded it out, a real nail-biter.

Games: 7-4
Matches: 3-1

At this point I'm tied with four of my teammates. We get the pairings for round 5, and, of course, I'm paired against my friend Mike Dozois and my other two teammates are paired against each other as well. They ID, but I don't want to with Mike because that will put us all in the same bracket again. We agree to play it out.

Round 4 vs. Mike with TPS (#3!)

Game One

I draw an insane hand and clean him up on turn two with the help of my good friend Yawgmoth's Bargain. Oops.

SB: I decide to get creative and board my usual mirror plan, plus taking out Jar for Colossus.

Game Two

He starts off with a simple land, Brainstorm. I play Land, Mox, Duress, Crypt, Tinker for DSC. He goes land, Mox Tinker for DSC. Interesting. On my turn, I Cunning Wish for Rushing River, and, to his dismay, bounce his Iron Giant, sending mine over to bash him down to 9. He goes ahead and draws his card, Timetwister, and plays it. I draw the worst hand ever; 5 lands, Rushing River, Skeletal Scrying. He thinks for a little while and plays Petal, Mox, Mox, Tinker for DSC. Well then. I untap, Rushing River his DSC, and that's all she wrote.

HOWEVER, after the game I ask to see his hand and see the options he was mulling over. When I see it, I nearly have a heart attack. In addition to the Mox, Mox, Petal, TInker, he had DT, Ritual, and Tendrils!  :shock: I nearly shit myself. I told him he had the win in hand- Tinker for Lotus, sack, Ritual, DT for Will, Will, win. Apparently, he never thought of Tinkering for Lotus. Sigh.

Games: 9-4
Matches: 4-1

At this point, I'm pretty damn excited. Two more match wins to go, come on!

Round Five vs. John (Ultima) with Control Slaver

I didn't recognize John's face or name, but it turns it he was (is) Ultima here, whom I have talked with on the message board. Should be an interesting match.

Game One

This game was pretty disappointing. He gets a Plats out via Tinker at some point. I go into a HUGE turn while he is tapped out involving tons of mana production followed by a Cunning Wish for Skeletal Scrying. I have like 11 mana available with 7 easily expendable cards in my yard, so I opt to go for the Scry for 7. Unfortunately, I draw pretty much nothing and lhave to pass the turn. At this point, he gets to untap with a hand full of counters and ride Plats to victory. The card I draw when he passes is: YawgWill. If only I had  drawn one more off Scrying. I attempt to cast it, but it's predictably met by Drain and that's that.

SB: Same as round three

Game Two

I Duress him early, put down a Necro, and win the following turn.

Game Three

This game was more or less a freebie. He mulls pretty low, and I Duress him, like in game two of round one. He can't do much of anything and I win easily.

Games: 11-5
Matches: 5-1

Allright, I am pumped. One more win to go, and I can draw into my first ever Waterbury single elim.

Round seven vs. Jeremiah with EBA

I sit down across from Jeremiah and he asks me if I'm Justin Bransfield and I say "yes". He says he recognizes my name from somewhere and asks if I've met him before, I shake my head in  bewilderment and with that we begin our match.

Game One

Not alot to say here, I just wrecked him, turn two. Turn 1, I Duress him, seeing no counters, but Angel, Mage, Swords, and some other stuff. Turn two, I play Tinker => Jar with four mana open, and decide to go for it and pop it immediately. I am rewarded for my bravery and draw a handful of b0rken, winning handily.

This is when I remember playing against someone on MWS who was playing EBA and talking to them about it. I ask him if he has AIM, he says yes, I ask him what his screen name is and he gives me that of the person I played on MWS and buddylisted. There you go, he did recognize my name. It's pretty cool because I gave him advice on his EBA build, (including tips on what to name with Meddling Mage vs. TPS). Small world.

SB: I know he has Arcane Labs from our games on MWS, so I board as such: -2 Rebuild, -1 Time Spiral, -1 Gifts Ungiven -1 Memory Jar, +1 Rushing River, +1 Echoing Truth, +1 DSC, +1 Misdirection, +1 Skeletal Scrying

Game Two

He starts off with land, go. I look at my hand and nearly piss myself. Land, Land, Vault, Lotus, Bargain, Duress, extra card. I play it safe and go land, Duress, seeing no counters. He untaps and does nothing special, I lay Vault, Lotus, Bargain, and win the match with my second turn two win against him.  Twisted Evil

Games: 13-5
Matches: 6-1

I wait for the Round 8 pairings and standings go up, very excited. When they do, I find my opponent, and we ID. Sick! My first Waterbury t16!

Final Record

Games: 13-5
Matches: 6-1-1

I come in at 7th place with 19 points.

I and two teammates, Matt McNally and Ben Taraskevich, make Top 16 with 6-1-1 records. Of course, Ben has to be tenth, and we get paired for Top 16. Damn.

Top 16 vs. Ben with Control Slaver

Game One

Ben is really confident going into this match, having won both TPS matches he played. Of course, so am I, having beaten both Slaver decks I faced. I lead with land, Duress. He draws some cards, as do I, and eventually I just drop a bomb, Bargain probably, and win.

SB: I know he too has Labs because he was talking about them before the tourney. I board as such: -1 Tinker, -1 Memory Jar, -1 Time Spiral, -2 Rebuild, +1 Skeletal Scrying, +1 Misdirection, +1 Echoing Truth, +1 Chain of Vapor

Game Two

He opens up with Land, Lotus, Lab. Uh oh. Fortunately for me, and much to his dismay, my deck decides not to care. Over the next seven or so turns, while he is casting EOT Brainstorms and AK for 1 and 2, I duress him FOUR times, build up to 6 mana, play Bargain, draw 12 cards, and Echoing Truth his double Lab for the win. He is incredibly distraught about my quad- Duress draw and the fact that I was able to deal with double Lab starting on turn 1. But hey, whatadaya gonna do?

So I've made it to the T8. I'm ready to take my guarunteed LoA and leave at this point, I own no cards worth more than $20 and I'm ecstatic at my performance so far.

Top 8 vs. Travis (JuggernautGO) with U/B HyperMUD thing

Game One

I don't remember too much about this game. He gets an early Tinker, and thinks awhile about what to get. I would have practically scooped to a Titan, but after much thought he decides to get a Jar and passes the turn. I untap, play my own Tinker for Jar and pop it that turn. I draw an amazing hand and win.

SB: -1 Time Spiral, -1 Gifts Ungiven, +2 Energy Flux

He opens up with a turn 1 Juggs, I believe. I play an Energy Flux off two land and a Mox Sapphire. In the process, I fetch using a Polluted Delta. I see my board of Swamp, Sapphire, and fetch a Swamp, fearing Wastelands. Turns out he doesn't run them, and I should have gotten a blue source anyway. My flux messes up my only source of blue mana and in turn my chance of winning the game. He manages to upkeep his 'Naut long enough to beat me to 0 with it.

SB: -1 Tinker, -1 Memory Jar, +1 Gifts Ungiven, +1 Time Spiral (I really didn't know what was in his deck or how to board against it.)

Game Three

This is a huge nail-biter. I resolve a Bargain pretty early. The first few cards I draw look golden: Mox, Mox, Vault. As I keep heading to 0 all I can find are more Lands, Forces, and like all four Brainstorms. I end up going to 1, casting 3 Brainstorms in the process. As I am about to exhaust my last expendable life point and therefore my last chance of winning, I play the final Brainstorm and draw: Rebuild, Rebuild, Tendrils. OOPS! I bounce my Storm count up to about 30 and blast him for 3x his life total (well, not really, I just show him the cards and he scoops.)

Wow, I can't believe it, I'm in the TOP FOUR of Waterbury. Me. Justin Bransfield. Well, I will be anyway, but I have to wait another 2 and a half hours until about 3 am. for those damn slaver mirrors to end. Argh.

Top 4 vs. Jeff (I think) with Slaver (#4!!!)

Game One:

He comes out pretty slow, and I tutor up a Duress to clear the way for a Necropotence. Unfortunately, very unfortunately in fact, all the cards I get with it, all the way down to 1 life, are HORRIBLE. I lose embarassingly with a hand full of land and no draw step  Crying or Very sad

SB: Same as Top 16

Game Two

MUCH to my dismay, this game is more of the same, except more spectacularily embarassing. I resolve no less than Necro, Time Spiral, Ancestal x2 (using Scrying + Wish) and a Desire for 6 and just can't pull off the win. I think I just got finally shafted by lady luck, but maybe I was just playing horribly. I would have had to be playing incredibly horribly to lose with those cards, though. It was 3:30 am. I was fucking tired.

So, I got up with a smile, walked over to Ray, claimed my Mox Jet prize (which the other Top 4 player had left for me to choose from Mox Ruby, since his bracket was over much earlier than mine). I said my goodbyes, and headed out with my first piece of power.

LEGAL NOTE: Gary Tang, writer for Londes.com, has my full permission to reproduce and/or reference this report in his works.
- Justin Bransfield
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2005, 07:50:18 pm »

Good Report! It was also nice to meet you at Waterbury though we never really had a chance to talk much. I ended up playing TPS as well and finished 5-3...

I to must say that TPS crapped out on me... I lost 2 games with Bargain on the table... It was just terrible drawing 15 cards only needing a mox or a dark ritual to win the game and getting land...land...land...ack!!!

Hope to see you at some of the events coming up in NE.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 07:51:47 pm »

I'm glad you beat Travis for me, be took me out of a guranteed Top 16 slot.  Good job man, I knew you'd do well.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 09:01:19 pm »

i was your round two opponent..

game one, I had no idea what you were playing so i didnt mulligan into a force as i had good opening hand if i ever had a turn...

you minds desired for 10 on your first turn and fizzle.. but pull a walk out of the desire.. and then bargain your second turn.. and i curse myself for not muliganing..

game 2/3 my plan was just to get a lab on the table or counter your card drawing.. which seemed to work.

game three.. i had the annul in my hand as well as a force.. but wanted to impulse for possibly another force (which got me the lab).  i was running 3 annuls main.  i probably could have killed you with the ophidians that game.. but was happy drawing 2/3 cards a turn.. you never would have gotten off truth/rushing river.. at least not late game.



congratulations for doing so well.. i ended up 25th or so at 5-2-1 (stupid draw with landstill... i should have won).. probably would have top 16'd if not.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 10:44:19 pm »

About your SBing in Round 7

SB: I know he has Arcane Labs from our games on MWS, so I board as such: -2 Rebuild, -1 Time Spiral, -1 Tinker, -1 Memory Jar, +1 Rushing River, +1 Echoing Truth, +1 DSC, +1 Misdirection, +1 Skeletal Scrying

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 11:06:42 pm »

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So, I got up with a smile, walked over to Ray, claimed my Mox Jet prize (which the other Top 4 player had left for me to choose from Mox Ruby, since his bracket was over much earlier than mine).


That was me.  Sorry we didn't get a chance to play for 3rd/4th, but as it turns out I was busy forgetting my ID. Sad  Anyway, well played--we were pretty much all the combo in the T8, so maybe it's a show of solidarity that we split the prizes like gentlemen, and let the control slaver players savage each other like dogs as we pursued other interests.  Even if I, for one, pursued them unsuccessfully.

Nice report, and congratulations on the finish!
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2005, 01:49:11 am »

Congratulations on your finish. Even without notes it is still intresting to hear about your matches and sideboard plans. I think I really need to test against slaver, I also played TPS and found this to be the hardest matchup. Any suggestions on playing versus or sideboarding against it?
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2005, 03:01:16 am »

Congratulations on the Top 4 finish. I'm happy to see that although i just missed the top 16 cut with 6-2 that a fellow TPS player took my spot.

Anyway, I thought I'd point out some of the finer points I noticed about your deck ... first of maindeck removal (2x Rebuild, 1x Cunning Wish). Although I have utter distaste for the 1xCunning Wish I will leave that for another time. The 2x Rebuild removal (the same I used in my 3rd place finish at the last Waterbury with TPS) is the ideal maindeck removal for the NE metagame in my opinion. Pretty much the only unhandleable threat would be Meddling Mage for game 1. After SB you bring in your answer to Meddling Mage, Arcane Lab, etc as necessary (hopefully Echoing Truth). SO many people are probably wondering why no Chain of Vapor ... quite honestly it's the sux most of the time. Think about this .. your opponent is playing a homosexual workshop deck and drops a turn 1 trinisphere. Being as how you aren't playing land disruption he will continue to build up his board position while you struggle to get to 3 mana. What's better 3 mana to reset or 3 mana to remove one of many board threats? Not to mention every smart player knows that CHalice against TPS is always 1 so therefore you just made CHalice that much more effective to play with Chains instead of a second Rebuild.

Second, we both seemed to agree that Energy Flux is an answer to workshop (not control slaver) that can be played around with ease. It was an experiment for me but in the future I think I would always prefer Rebuilds #3&4 over the two Fluxes. Not to mention TPS is a control deck and control decks prefer instants, right?

Third, Hydroblast in the board? I have to disagree with you and say they belong there. Much like you did this time, I easily swept Control Slaver at the last Waterbury due to killing welder. If you are familiar at all with "Control" Slaver no welder in play means no win. If you can solidly prevent a welder from being on the board you can almost guaranteed assure victory (i mean unless they hardcast slaver or platz or titan ... but you should win by then) Believe me I know you want to drop them but it's sooo necessary.

Last but not least here's a new debate for you to consider ... to Gift or not to Gift? How many Gifts can one play before going clunky? and even then Why not just play four gifts and go for the win everytime? I mean if you're gonna play Tutor-TPS why not play with a full rack and go NUTZ!
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2005, 10:54:37 am »

adamdod: Allright, sorry about that, its fixed with an edit now.

Same with the SB Tinker thing. It was a Gifts, not Tinker.

Snoop: Welders never really had an impact on my games. The reason I lost to Jeff in T4 was just my own Necro sucking. That's why I'm cutting Plagues. As for BeB/hydro, I just think they are way too narrow. If needed I can bounce Welders to buy time, which should be fine.

The 1 Gifts Ungiven was, OK. It's probably next on the chopping block after Sprial, or tied with it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2005, 07:14:22 pm »

JP and Myself were watching the "bad necro" that happened.  When we saw eplague we were like "interesting tech", but in the same sense we were like you could have just had a card in hand that instantly wins instead of playing a 2B enchantment to kill welder.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 12:35:44 am »

Yeah the engineered plague has got to go ... I tried that for a few months but it's just so inadequate. However Hydroblast is so needed ... you didn't get to play against Cerebral Assassin, and I'm not sure what versions of Control Slaver you got to play against but a Welder on the board is bad times. I'm not gonna say you got lucky but maybe you did. I mean Slaver is heavy on counters and all they have to do is weld in a slaver to win against you. Not to mention some versions play REBs or Blood Moon ... the kinda stuff you just dont' wanna see. My point being siding in a few hydros only increases your chances of winning, not that you can't win without them. But then again that's the beauty of TPS in my mind ... the fact that it is possible to win every matchup.

Lastly, cut Time Spiral? I really would urge you to consider testing more before doing something like that. After all Time Spiral is like the "ideal" TPS Draw 7. on average it costs 2 or 3 colorless and leaves your mana open and give you a new hand. I mean if you could play more than one this is the deck that would do it. Plus you desperately need to keep as many bombs in the deck as possible. I'll admit Gifts is a little shaky but it's been good ... although I think Gifts real potential will be shown in a deck i've been working on for the past few months, not in TPS.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 01:56:11 pm »

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JP and Myself were watching the "bad necro" that happened.  When we saw eplague we were like "interesting tech", but in the same sense we were like you could have just had a card in hand that instantly wins instead of playing a 2B enchantment to kill welder.


Exactly. When I drew the Plague off the Necro, it was just another dead card to complement the many, many ( Mad ) I was drawing. I think the better plan against Welders is to just win before they become a threat, not try to kill them.
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