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Author Topic: Idea that needs formulating  (Read 1408 times)
ShoryuuReppaX
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« on: February 03, 2005, 04:23:19 am »

If anyone on these forums recognizes me, I'll be in total shock.
Anyways, I've been reading TMD for years and I concluded it to be the best source for magic, both competitive and casual.

Ok, onto my idea.

So far, my idea seems way too complex and bulky to be used. Therefore, I ask the community if there are ways to simplify this.

I always envisioned a keyword / concept I dub void, most likely to be used on creatures.

Void does the following:
- This card cannot be targeted by spells or abilities. (uncounterable + untargetability, in most cases)
- Static(?) and continuous effects do not affect this card. For example, even under Trinisphere this card can cost less than 3. A creature with void will retain its text with Humility in play.  Glorious Anthem will not give a creature with void +1/+1.
- This card does not trigger activated abilities or replacement effects. For example, it will slide through Hesitation.
- A creature with void will still die to damage, wrath of gods, edicts, etc.

As you can see, this is a total nightmare in terms of size and rules. However, I see flavor linking these abilities together (creates a magic-dead zone), and I was wondering if there was a way to template this, or at least salvage parts of this for future card ideas.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 07:36:43 pm »

I'm afraid there's really no way to concisely create this mechanic -- in that regard it is like banding. They've taken to creating only keyword mechanics that can be concisely explained with reminder text (which may later be dropped.) There's simply no way to do this. In fact, without explicitly stating every possible type of scenario, there's no way to do this at all. There is no clear meaning to a phrase like, "This card does not trigger abilities." Suppose it were a creature, for example, would you count it for Portcullis or Complex Automaton? Does it trigger Orim's Prayer when it attacks? If it blocks a Thicket Basilisk, will it die at the end of combat? Your answer may be "No" for all of those, but there's absolutely no meaningful way to say all that without totally ignoring the rules.
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